Printer profile problem

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Hi all,
I let the printer manage the colours when printing with my canon pro 9000 mk2.

I like very much printing in B&W and have just bought some good quality B&W papers ( Ilford galerie gold mono silk and Permajet fine art titanium lustre )

I always download the icc profiles for my papers but when I try to assign the profile after ticking the greyscale box in the canon easy-photoprint pro the profile box is greyed out. Same when trying to print with Adobe.

If I assign the profile with the greyscale box unticked I get a slight colour cast.

Is there a way round this as I don't see the point of giving a B&W paper a profile if you can't assign it.

Hope this makes sense and hope someone can help on this.
 
Thanks for the reply Andy, have already tried what you suggest but always get a colour cast. Not sure how to fix that.
 
Getting good black and whites on ink jets can be hard. On my old HP printer I had custom profiles done by Fotospeed for use on their papers but always ended with a cast of one sort or another. I ended up blowing a load of money on the epson R3000 and that now gives me cast free prints using either canned profiles or using the epson abw driver. I don't know anything about canon printers unfortunately, but you could maybe try getting a custom profile done? Fotospeed do them for free if you buy paper off them.
 
Good advice Andy, a few paper makers do custom profiles, that might be the road to go, will make inquiries.

Am a big fan of your web site, my type of images, keep it up.
 
Thanks, glad you like the website:) You can see why I've gone through so much grief to get my black and white printing right! And I'm not there yet!

Incidentally, if memory serves me correctly, I think forum member POAH can do / did profiles, might be worth checking his profile or messaging him.
 
Try using photoshop to manage colours in the photoshop print dialogue and using the correct profile in there then select the correct paper type and turn off colour management in the printer dialogue box. I've only ever used epson but the principles are the same. Colour cast is just about always caused by double profiling.
 
On a grey scale image it's very easy to see a colour cast, even a slight one. As has been suggested , the best way is to convert the image to monochrome in Photoshop or similar application. Then print it as an RGB image. This way you will get the option to use the appropriate profile. However there is still potential for a problem. If you are using canned profiles ( and the Ilford ones tend to be very good) you may still get a colour cast. This is because these are generic profiles and may have some variation to the characteristics of your machine. I'd also check the image via soft proofing to check that the profile will give you a neutral image. Ideally you should get custom profiles made for your printer/ink/paper combination. However if the colour cast is slight, you could always add a little correction in Photoshop or whatever application you are using.

Also remember that viewing conditions can have an effect on how you see the image. Different lighting will change the way the image looks.
 
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