Photoshop CS3 SLOOOW in Vista

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I've installed Photoshop CS3 today. I'd been eagerly awaiting it's arrival since I ordered it and now I'm really disapointed :'( It's running soooo slow! Painfully slow. Like, select a tool and wait 3 seconds for it to become active. Drag an marque round an object, release the mouse and 3 seconds later the marque appears on screen. If you hold down the space bar and use the hand tool to move the image it won't even move! :shake:

My PC is well within spec:

Dell Dimension XPS
Windoes Vista Home Premium 32 bit
CPU P4, 3.2 Ghz
2Gb RAM

I've even been into the preferences and allocated 75% of the system RAM to PS but it's made no difference.

The really odd thing is I'm running the beta version on an XP system at work with a lesser spec (only 512Gb RAM) and it runs absolutely fine :shrug:

Anyone got any ideas how I can get it running right?
 
I find a club hammer gets the results I want fairly quickly.

Mind you ..... I do regret it about an hour later :D


Sorry ..... Can't really help
 
uninstall vista, and put xp back on until vista sorts its self out
 
have you thought of

a) using a crowbar; or
b) ringing the adobe support guys, with every purchased copy there must be a support contract in place
 
I've got the CS3 beta running on three vista workstations without a problem Paul, its unlikely to be vista thats the problem because there would be more people with issues. I haven't tested the release version on vista but you'd have thought any issues would have been there in the beta and ironed out before release - not the other way around.

Have you downloaded any and all available updates for windows and photoshop?

If you go into task manager whilst CS3 is open is anything using a lot of CPU utilisation? (right click on the task bar, left click on task manager, click on the processes tab)
 
I got CS2 working fine on Vista here Paul, Also had CS3 working fine too although I have now reverted back to CS2 due to some printing issues.;)

Can't be of much help here mate but have you any virus bloatware that may be hogging your resources..:shrug:
 
what are you doing scratch-disk wise?
 
Its all too easy to blaim Vista as everyone does who hasnt really got a clue on how Windows works. Vista has been exstensivley tested prior to release with hundreds of thousands providing feedback via its Beta testing program, me incl. A lot of issues stem from the system registry. Running a registry cleaner such as Registry Mechanic cleaning it out can help. You can also compact it to improve performance, only marginally but every little helps.

Have you purged you system memory of late? The instalation could of left fragments of code lying around which could be stalling the process?

Just a couple of sugestions, but might help all the same. Having used and installed CS3 on my Macbook 2.0Ghz, 2GB Ram I can understand that you wouldnt want to sit through the instalation again, took me forever anyhow.

King.

EDIT: Do a google for CrapCleaner (CC). This nifty little app searches for 'crap' on your system allowing you to delete it. Word of warning, make sure you know what your deleting before you do it, at your own risk obviously.
 
Thanks for the replys :)
Going back to XP isn't an option I'm afraid and I honestly don't believe the OS is actually causing CS3 to run badly. I was running CS2 on the same PC running Vista with no issues.

Matt & BB, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly hogging any resourses. I am fully up to date with Windows updates, although I haven't checked for any Photoshop updates so I'll do that, thanks

Jon, scratch disk is set to my only HDD but it has 129Gb to play with :shrug:

King, Thank you for those tips sir, I'll certainly give them a go and report back. I have purged the memory with a complete shut down and restart which made no difference. You're right about the install time though, it took bloody ages :(

Worth mentioning that all other apps are running fine on the PC, this is just a problem with CS3, not the system in general

Thanks for the help so far, I appreciate it :thumbs:
 
I just found a piece of software that I used to test my Windows system before moving to Mac. If I remember rightly, there is an option in there to purge memory. Shutting down and restarting doesnt always clean out the RAM unfortunately. This is the download link. It doesnt require an install, just runs off its own accord. It might be worth a try,...

http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=301
 
King_Boru said:
I just found a piece of software that I used to test my Windows system before moving to Mac. If I remember rightly, there is an option in there to purge memory. Shutting down and restarting doesnt always clean out the RAM unfortunately. This is the download link. It doesnt require an install, just runs off its own accord. It might be worth a try,...

http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=301
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As an IT professional I would have to disagree with that statement, when you power off a computer all data that is in RAM gets purged.
 
Yeah I'm with Rob on this one sorry King - RAM is volatile, as soon as you down the power it is completely cleared. You can get NVRAM in PDAs and phones which is non-volatile RAM, basically another name for flash memory.

RAM in a PC is however volatile and does get a fresh start after a reboot.
 
My experience tells me otherwise but never mind :)

Eitherway I hope you get your system sorted Grendal.
 
Thanks KB, I'll update as I discover more. I'm currently uninstalling, which is taking as long as it did to install :bonk: With a view to reinstalling on the assumption that something didn't quite go right originally. A long shot I know but worth a try I guess :shrug:
 
Two things peeps:

1) The RAM does indeed get cleared when shutting the system down. However, this doesn't mean the data is removed because during shutdown phase some data is written to disk. This same data is then rewritten to RAM during boot up, so technically you are both correct in various ways :D

2) Are you running Windows Vista with an old graphics card? It is the first operating system to be very reliant on the graphics cards and requires the latest models. If you are running an old one then CS3 will certainly give you issues under Vista.
 
Sorted :D

I uninstalled it, ran the CCleaner utility that King suggested and removed all traces of CS3 from my system. Reinstalled it and it's now working fine :D

I honestly don't know what happened, I can only assume something tripped up on the initial installation that got fixed on the reinstall :shrug:

Thanks to everyone who offered constructive help in getting this sorted for me ;)

Paul
 
King_Boru said:
Its all too easy to blaim Vista as everyone does who hasnt really got a clue on how Windows works. Vista has been exstensivley tested prior to release with hundreds of thousands providing feedback via its Beta testing program, me incl. A lot of issues stem from the system registry. Running a registry cleaner such as Registry Mechanic cleaning it out can help. You can also compact it to improve performance, only marginally but every little helps.

Have you purged you system memory of late? The instalation could of left fragments of code lying around which could be stalling the process?

Just a couple of sugestions, but might help all the same. Having used and installed CS3 on my Macbook 2.0Ghz, 2GB Ram I can understand that you wouldnt want to sit through the instalation again, took me forever anyhow.

King.

EDIT: Do a google for CrapCleaner (CC). This nifty little app searches for 'crap' on your system allowing you to delete it. Word of warning, make sure you know what your deleting before you do it, at your own risk obviously.
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seeing as ive been using vista/longhorn since its alpha stages, so what, 4 years? i think i know how about how "windows works".

the registry has absolutely nothing to do with it, the fact is vista just isnt resource friendly imo, too much time spent making it look nice, not enough time performance wise, i'd go into details on it but i really don't need to, theres a reason why i have two copies of windows vista not being used, its just not worth it at the moment.
 
Muler said:
seeing as ive been using vista/longhorn since its alpha stages, so what, 4 years? i think i know how about how "windows works".

the registry has absolutely nothing to do with it, the fact is vista just isnt resource friendly imo, too much time spent making it look nice, not enough time performance wise, i'd go into details on it but i really don't need to, theres a reason why i have two copies of windows vista not being used, its just not worth it at the moment.
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I think thats utter tosh! The fact you have been using it for 4 years doing make you an expert. I've been driving for over 10 years but I ain't a mechanic!

The Windows Vista registry may have something to do with it. Windows Vista Registry is very similar to XP but not the same by any mean. We have a larger use of policies in Vista (for performance reasons) and many of the XP keys have had their names changed. For some reason it may be the CS3 errored during install (its happened before so no doubt happened again).

Hopefully your problem is sorted now Grendel.

PS - Posted on a machine running Windows Vista Ultimate VERY fast indeed ;)
 
Why would he have to uninstall before buying a mac? Surely he could just buy a mac and not use his pc or sell it? (If he were that way inclined). ;)
 
Becuase windows is poo ;)

Orginally I was going to put 'unistall windows and install OSX' but I decided againsn't it half way through \o/
 
Marik said:
Becuase windows is poo ;)
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*sigh*

We're not getting into this again, comments like that don't help the original poster and certainly don't do anything for mac/windows user relations.

Use what you want, you're entitled to your opinions on whether OS a/b/x is better than w/p/e.
 
I agree with Matt. However, it is an Apple led initiative. If Mr Jobs wants to throw millions at two comedians promoting the fact that Mac's are better than Windows, then all Mac users will do is believe it and portray it. However, the underlying (funny) issue is all the millions do is reaffirm the Mac users self belief and actually don't pull in many PC to Mac transferee's!

(Hence why Microsoft didn't really do much replying!)

PS - For those who actually believe the adverts are about Mac vs PC - you are so wrong ;)
 
Note use of wink smiley, sir.

I have to go college now, well shall continue this debate, never.





MACS RULE.

In relation to post.. have you tried it on XP? I hear it's meant to be quite fast, tried the usual defrag etc?
 
Hades said:
For some reason it may be the CS3 errored during install (its happened before so no doubt happened again).

Hopefully your problem is sorted now Grendel.

PS - Posted on a machine running Windows Vista Ultimate VERY fast indeed ;)
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Yeah all running like a dream now, I was up till the early hours trying out all the new features. I have now doubt now that something tripped over itself on the original installation. As you said mate, these things can and do happen.

Once again thanks to those who have helped with constructive advice :thumbs:
 
No worries Grendel - out of interest, click on Start, Games and then in the Games window see what your current systems rating is. That is a measure of your graphics card (simple but effective measure).
 
I would like to be even more awkward and say ditch both Windows and Macs they are both living in the shadow of Linux and GIMP :)
 
I would like to be even more awkward and say ditch both Windows and Macs they are both living in the shadow of Linux and GIMP :lol:
 
*sigh* Well, you ain't in a position to comment on CS3 then :D :D :D :D

ps .. you posted the same thing twice, not sure if thats a Linux issue ;)
 
Hades said:
*sigh* Well, you ain't in a position to comment on CS3 then :D :D :D :D

ps .. you posted the same thing twice, not sure if thats a Linux issue ;)
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ROFL :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Hades said:
No worries Grendel - out of interest, click on Start, Games and then in the Games window see what your current systems rating is. That is a measure of your graphics card (simple but effective measure).
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At work at the moment so can't try that till this evening, but if it's the same thing as the "windows score" or whatever they call it then I seem to remember it's 4.1 :shrug:
 
you can also get the number by right clicking on my computer and left clicking on properties.

Paul get a remote desktop connection set up to your home pc :p
 
Matt Charlton said:
Paul get a remote desktop connection set up to your home pc :p
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D'ya know I've never considered doing that Matt - I'll sort it tonight. How easy it is to overlook the simple things!
 
why not by both macs always come in handy when using your pc in the rain they keep you dry he he :d :D :D
 
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