Photography with a digital camera is actually just digital art..

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Making an image with a digital camera isn't actually photography but digital art.

It's all just binary. The manipulation of 1's and 0's.

A true photograph is recorded on film or paper.

Convince me otherwise!

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Photography is drawing with light. I cannot see what difference the sensor makes - gelatin or silicon - it is still photography.

Having said that, I have just bought two more film cameras and I will be going out shortly with my trusty Nikkormat FTn loaded with Fomapan 200 creative. I prefer film to digital for all sorts of reasons (nicer cameras, different lenses, proper grain, changes in behaviour of people I photograph, etc) but I do a lot of digital photography as well.
 
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Making an image with a digital camera isn't actually photography but digital art.
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I wouldn't class photography of my receipts as digital art. That's all I use digital cameras for.

Ten points for triggering Dave :)
 
Hmmmm. Too much thinking of such things you are doing. Perhaps more getting out and taking pictures you should do?Man on wall photographing boy by Thames Pentacon FM 67-9001.jpg
 
:oops: :$ what have I done. :p

So an artist that creates a picture on the computer can be classed as a painter?
 
MrDrizz said:
Making an image with a digital camera isn't actually photography but digital art.

It's all just binary. The manipulation of 1's and 0's.

A true photograph is recorded on film or paper.

Convince me otherwise!

:exit:
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What do you mean; paper??, film???, Real photographers use glass plates, anything else is just new-fanged rubbish! :LOL:
 
Show me the 1's and 0's somewhere in an electronic device and I may then consider your request :)
 
So are you saying if I use a digital camera I'm a bad artist and if I use a film camera a I'm a bad photographer ? That said I sort of agree with your statement but I do enjoy digital photography, sorry I mean art ! and I can create bad art/photography much more cheaply ! Just to add complication what would I call a film photo that I took a photo of with a digital camera in order to scan it ?
And here are some naughts and ones, my latest art and in best tradition it's out of focus.

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And I will add that it doesn't matter one bit. It's what you create that matters. Not how it's done.
 
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So based on the OP's assertion, does a photograph taken on a film camera but then uploaded to a computer cease to be a photograph?
 
Nowadays
" The camera ALWAYS lies "
 
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This is a scan. (Picture made by placing flowers on the scanning bed)
 
The original photography takes place in the eye, where the sensor is. The sensor passes the information to the brain where it is put into storage. That image can be manipulated in a trillion different ways in a matter of milliseconds and with the right output device (this is the awkward bit) the image can be shown to everyone. Unfortunately not that many of us have that output skill so we have to use cameras to record our images instead. It doesn't matter how the image is taken or stored so long as it can be...and that, is photography.
 
I think fundamentally a photograph is a rendering of the light captured at the scene whereas art in the painting/drawing sense is an eye-hand representation of a scene. It doesn't matter how the photo was captured, photogram, scan, digital camera, wet plate etc.

Where it gets interesting is how much photochoppery it takes for a photo to no longer be a representation of light captured at the scene...
 
I'm sure I read of Salgado having digital photos transferred to film for printing.
 
It's nobody's job to convince anyone else one way or the other.
The viewer will decide.

Recording devices don't 'make' anything, it's the person creating the image that does that. Whether your medium is dirt and clay daubed on a cave wall or 1s and 0s on an electronic instrument.
 
If a photo is taken of a digital image with a film camera, will the film accurately render the 1's & 0's that make up the digital image?
 
I personally believe it's the intention behind the image which differentiates between art and photography. For me if I'm capturing an emotion or concept, something intangible, in a tangible image, it's art. If I'm trying to record something in this film or digital medium, for later viewing, it's photography. An image can be either or both, photograph and/or art.
 
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