Photography and the Beeb

gremlin16 said:
I've always been tempted to send something in for their 'in pictures' section. The problem is, if I ever took something that I thought was good enough to submit, I wouldn't want to hand it over to them and lose it.
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I'm interested to know what you would do with it otherwise?
 
sirch said:
I'm interested to know what you would do with it otherwise?
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It would just sit on my hard drive with all the thousands of other pics

On a serious note, I know what you are saying, but the thought of it being copied without permission just puts me off. That's a massive assumption of course, perhaps I need to relax a little.
 
sirch said:
How are they not snapshots? Does that decrease their interest? Does the fact that he deliberately cut off the heads not give you pause at all?
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They are uninteresting IMO and has nothing to do with heads getting chopped off etc. The pictures dont do nothing for me.
 
I'm probably going to get some flack for saying this but for me photography is a hobby, I use it purely as a form of escapism. I work full time and absolutely love the work I do and get paid for it. I've sent a few images to websites and sold a few through red rubble and similar which pays very little but for me it's the joy of someone seeing my image and liking it and as gremlin16 said it would just be sat on a hard drive otherwise.

I really hope I haven't offended any full time photographers, it really isn't my intention to do so.
 
jonneymendoza said:
They are uninteresting IMO and has nothing to do with heads getting chopped off etc. The pictures dont do nothing for me.
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TBH they don't do a lot for me either! I think we are in agreement that they are snapshots, they were snapshots in time of people crossing Westminster bridge. What I was curious about what why them being snapshots was worthy of comment? There were a few where I kind of wanted to scroll the frame up to see the person's face which I think is the point; there is that mild frustration of being used to seeing a face but in this case not being able to. Chopping off people's heads in photos is one of the first skills we seem to learn and just because this was on a Magnum workshop and the brief was to "look for interesting faces" and the response was to find them (presumably) but not photograph them does not IMHO make it the most radical or avant garde idea. .But it is still thought provoking and I appreciate @ancient_mariner posting it.
 
There were some pictures posted yesterday - about which I can remember nothing, though that's entirely normal - that were different and also interesting. And it's good to see the BBC showcasing different work, even if it doesn't appeal.
 
I generally like these sort of shots, but most of these are a bit underwhelming. The ones I do like are:

The guy with red trousers beside the double red lines.
The following shot of the two similarly dressed people with just arms and torsos showing.
The woman's hands on the bridge railing (this is the best shot IMO)
The guy with the ice-cream cone.
 
I think there's about 6 I would put together to make a decent set. Taken individually I'm not so sure, I do like the red trousers against* the double red lines though.



* I nearly said "Juxtaposition" then, but that's just one of the words I promised myself never to use..."Bokeh" is another.
 
It's a miniature project showing different aspects of people and places in the bridge on a four hour period. It's not a showcase of the finest photographs ever taken of that genre or location. The photographers style may not be to everyone's tastes, but that's life I guess. It's nice to see someone try something different in street photography, other than beggars, people looking into their phones, juxtapositions against signs, etc
 
Unfortunately the Beeb are the worst culprits for free pics ,having had several on spring watch ,Autumn watch etc it does peeve a bit ,but I was told many moons ago by a pro wildlife togger the best thing to do is get your name known ,it does work and quiet a few sales later gives you that feel good feeling when you get paid ,my most expensive sale being a sunset over the mountains of Sinai sold to a Japanese pop group earning me enough for a large carbon fibre tripod
 
viewfromthenorth said:
It's a miniature project showing different aspects of people and places in the bridge on a four hour period. It's not a showcase of the finest photographs ever taken of that genre or location. The photographers style may not be to everyone's tastes, but that's life I guess. It's nice to see someone try something different in street photography, other than beggars, people looking into their phones, juxtapositions against signs, etc
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Umm just because it doesn't portray the same old street shots doesn't mean this is good in my book. It's average at best. I've seen much better from people doing similar style
 
jonneymendoza said:
Umm just because it doesn't portray the same old street shots doesn't mean this is good in my book. It's average at best. I've seen much better from people doing similar style
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That's fine we all have our own views as to what is 'good'. I'm sure there are better examples of this style - can you provide some links?
 
Karl Taylor is on the beeb on wednesday, some sort of challenge, On The one show ;)
 
I though they were interesting...to me if a set of photographs is not interesting it has failed, however technically excellent and well composed they are.
As they were taken as a set, that is exactly how they should be received, and perhaps judged. He seems to have given himself a very restricted set of parameters, including time, place and viewpoint. With this in mind it was not an easy task.
At the very least it is a useful excercise in concentrated seeing.
 
cardiff_gareth said:
From memory, anything you upload to them for their 'in pictures' challenges gives them the right to do what the hell they want with it, you basically sign it away to them. Not sure if that's still the case.
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Looks like it's still the same, pretty allows them to edit, change, use, sell and do whatever they want with it. They even say 'you give your moral rights to it' so they don't have to give any credit to the creator.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms/what-can-the-bbc-do-with-the-content-that-i-post/

It's interesting that it applies to content uploaded by the user. A few years back I was contacted by the BBC for use of an image in advertising winter watch. The T&Cs of that were limited to the use for advertising that years winter watch, and they paid a small amount too.
 
Scotty Pro said:
Karl Taylor is on the beeb on wednesday, some sort of challenge, On The one show ;)
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STOP PRESS!

Hi

Unfortunately my One Show appearance on BBC1 has been rescheduled due to a TV programme reshuffle. Dates to be re-confirmed and I'll let you know when I know more.

Sorry for the previous notification I was only told this morning of the last minute change.

Thank you,
Karl
 
Graham W said:
STOP PRESS!

Hi

Unfortunately my One Show appearance on BBC1 has been rescheduled due to a TV programme reshuffle. Dates to be re-confirmed and I'll let you know when I know more.

Sorry for the previous notification I was only told this morning of the last minute change.

Thank you,
Karl
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I got that message as well :mad:
 
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