On One "Perfect Photo Suite" opinions.

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With the recent "anti Photoshop" feelings a lot of people seem to have been looking for alternatives to PS.
Let me first say I'm not a Photoshop user, and never have been, but I've recently adopted LightRoom as my raw editor.
I have a number of Topaz plug-ins which I'm using with LR, but I've also been looking at On One Software's "Perfect Photo Suite."

My questions are:
•Does anyone here use "Perfect Photo Suite" (v7.5) and what are your opinions of it?
•Since I already have a selection of Topaz plug-ins available, is it worth having "Perfect Photo Suite" installed in addition to the Topaz programs?
•In "Perfect Photo Suite" if I use "Perfect Mask" will that allow me to do things like replace skies when using it as a LR plug-in?

Thanks for your comments.
 
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Hi, I have PPS 7.5 and it is IMO so much easier to use than PS.
I have L/R, and P/S CS6 along with OnOne and when needed after L/R, PPS is where I go first.
The thing I like about the OnOne software compared to P/S CS is it is as Lightroom for photographers where as P/S CS is or has a much wider work flow option for many parts of the industry.
You can download the cut down version of Perfect Effects 4 for free to try it out without restriction or water marks I also think (but not sure ) that you can get perfect layers also free.
There are lots of tutorials on there site http://www.ononesoftware.com/learn/training/
Give it a go you don't have to buy if you don't like it but also look around for money off coupons and there own specials, there was one up that they sent email for 50% off.
Russ
 
I've tried several of the programmes in the suite and bought Perfect Mask which, for me, was the best option of the several I tried. I use it in Photoshop and it works in Lightroom, full version only. You can also use it as a standalone, it has a layers option. I have Perfect Effects which is OK but I don't find presets suit me as a way to work. I don't care for Topaz for similar reasons. For B&W I use NIK and I find that suite more to my taste across the board although it could use a revamp now I think. As Russ says download it for a month and see what you think, you can also try NIK for a month I believe.
 
I use Perfect Effects, which comes with Perfect Layers built in. You don't have to only use the inbuilt presets as it gives you a way of processing your photos in a similar way to, say, Lightroom, but adding one effect per layer. For example, you might add a Tone Enhancer layer to fix any problems with exposure, then a Color Enhancer layer to bring out or tone down the colours. You might want to add a Photo Filter - an 80A Cooling Filter, for example, add more Blur to a particular area, or turn your photo into a Duotone image, all with the ability to mask the effect to particular areas of the image.

The built-in effects are: Black & White, Blur, Borders, Color Enhancer, Duotone, Glow, Photo Filter, Sharpening, Texturizer, Tone Enhancer, and Vignette. All are fully adjustable. For example, the Tone Enhancer has sliders for Brightness, Contrast, Blacks, Shadows, Highlights, Local Contrast, and Clarity, and has a checkbox for Auto Contrast, and a Photoshop-like Levels grid for making changes to individual Red, Green, and Blue channels or the Composite of all three. The other effects have similarly detailed settings.

When you finish making your changes, PE flattens all of those effects onto the original picture layer and returns them as a single image (e.g. in Lightroom), or a single layer (e.g. in Perfect Layers, Elements, or Photoshop CS).

Once you've stacked up a number of effects on an image you can, if you want, save them as a preset. It's a great way of building your own 'look'. Or, if you're like most photographers, your own 'looks'.

I own all of the Topaz plugins and don't use them anywhere near as much as I use Perfect Effects for simple photo processing. But for some pictures, ReMask is a great tool. OnOne's Perfect Mask looks, from the example videos available, to be easier to use than ReMask, and the results look OK at normal zoom levels; they don't often show the photo zoomed in to 100% so I can't say how accurate Perfect Mask is.

Replacing skies is one of the situations both ReMask and Perfect Mask are usually demonstrated in videos as the results for both are impressive once you know how to use them. Since any of the single OnOne plugins comes with Perfect Layers for free, it doesn't matter if you own the entire suite if you just want to do one job. To replace a sky from within Lightroom, you take the photo into Perfect Layers and add your sky image there. You then take the photo into Perfect Mask and define your mask to cut out the bits where the sky should show through. And, from what I've seen in the videos and webinars, the sky layer is also taken into Perfect Mask and will show through as you define your mask. This makes sky replacement pretty easy as what you see is what you get.

You probably already know that Topaz ReMask doesn't work with Lightroom and needs an intermediary program such as Elements to do the actual layer work. But since every OnOne plugin comes with Perfect Layers built in, any of them make a good way of 'adding layers to Lightroom' though, of course, you can only use layers in PL, not in LR itself.

There are a number of videos on Perfect Mask on the OnOne site, and I seem to recall that some of them mention Lightroom.

http://www.ononesoftware.com/learn/training/video/category/perfect-mask-5-2/
 
Thanks very much to you all for the comments.

I have the free version of Perfect Effects and to be honest I'm not particularly impressed with it.
I find the adjustments I can make with Topaz Adjust preferable to PE, since there is more control over the parameters.
I've looked at some of the video demos/tutorials for Perfect Effects and they look impressive, but on the other hand, so do those for the Topaz programs.
Presumably because I have registered my use of the free edition of Perfect Effects, I have been sent a discount code (which expires tomorrow) for the full Perfect Effects suite, so I wanted to solicit some opinions before I made the commitment. Even with 50% discount it's still a substantial amount of money, and I don't want to fork out for something I'm rarely going to use.
From past experience those discount codes are a bit like buses, if you miss one there'll be another one along later, so I'm not too concerned about missing the deadline this time.
I'll try downloading some of the trial versions of the individual PE programs and experiment a bit more.
I'm no expert at using any of these more advanced type of programs, but the possibilities of sky replacement are something that interests me, although I have never actually tried it yet.
I do also use PaintShop Pro, which supports layers, so I can always resort to that.
It's just that I was interested in keeping everything within LightRoom and avoid having to export stuff into another program.
 
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