Old Photax Lenses

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I recently acquired an old Photax 67319, 500mm 1:8 lens. I would love to use it with my EOS70D, but I have no idea where to start, or if this is even possible! I have a feeling it might not be worth it, but I am not looking for stunning photos, it's more of a sentimental value thing. I already have a T2 adaptor that seems to fit it, but from there I don't know how to set it up.

Is there anyone who is willing and able to give me a lesson in old lenses?! Would be appreciated, thank you.
 
From what I can gather it's a preset lens - has it a ring on the barrel that you can spin, not to set but to actuate the aperture (stop down)? Having set the chosen stop separately beforehand, you can use this to open up to focus and to stop down to take. I guess you'll have to meter manually, so you'd need to stop down in the same way to get the reading, adjusting the shutterspeed to suit. I'd do that first, and open up to focus second. Then stop down finally, and fire.

Looks like a bit of a handful. Mirror lenses of that focal length are more compact.
 
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Thanks everyone! I have a T2 to EOS adaptor so that should be ok.

I'm guessing it's a 'wondertube' it's pretty long!

Here is the lens showing all the dials and numbers, can anyone explain which ones control the aperture etc? Both the ring labelled 22/16/11/8 and the one 0<-->C move. Turning the first one seems to limit the movement of the second one.

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Cant comment on stills but i used one in the past on a Canon EX1 video camera for wildlife filming and it gave very good results on video, mind you keeping it steady was a problem i think the FOV was about 2800 mm:D
 
Guessing I would think 22,16,11,8 presets the aperture and the O and C are open and closed. so set the aperture open it as wide as possible to focus then close it to take.
 
the first ring O_C Is to open and close down the thens to the aperture you have set on the second ring 8-22
the third ring is a depth of field indicator and does nothing except indicate the depth of field. in your illustration is showing the focus point at infinity and at f22 the close point is near 200 meters.
To take advantage of the maximum depth of field, you could refocus with the second F22 on the infinity mark, and the first F22 mark would indicate close between 70 and 200. depth of field would be between those two points.
The fourth ring is the distance scales in feet and meters.
 
O=Open
C=Closed
That is the 'stop down' ring.
Focus in 'O' for bright view-finder.
Meter in 'C' & shoot in 'C'..... to stop down to set f-no, (or you'll be metering and shooting wide open).
It's a simple over-ride of the aperture setting ring, a quick control to switch between set aperture and open, common on a lot of T mount and M42 lenses, co-incident with 'automatic' linses that had a pin to stop down to 'set' aperture on meter or shutter 'automatically'.

22,16,11,8 by red dot are the aperture iris settings. Make sure red dot is aligned to whatever f-stop you want before you meter, or release.

Front ring is focus, with distance scale on the ring, red-dot lining up to set focus range. Scale beneath, (by red dot) is the DoF brackets, the line from each F-No indicating furthest & closest 'acceptable focus' distance around set, at that f-no.

As long as its not mossed up inside, cracked, chipped or delamnated, you will likely find it actually performs bloomin well, and likely better than many modern electric lenses, thanks to its very simple and 'true-focal-length' construction, and fact that on a crop-sensor camera, you will only be taking an image off the sweet-spot in the center of the lenses image circle, the crop-sensor cropping an awful lot of possible edge abhoration over the 'full-frame' it was originally intended to cover on a 35mm film camera.

Main issue, especially if it's a T-Mount lens, is the calibration of the mount, and possibility of the mount moving lens body closer or further from the sensor/film focal plane. If 'out' it will likely mean that the focus scale isn't quite accurate, but in bad cases it can mean you cant actually get infinity focus or close closest focus distance. On better T-Mounts, there was often a grub-screw or three so that you could 'lock' the barrel of the lens to the mount at critical mount length to calibrate, rather than screw it tight down, and possibly have the lens a thread width or so out of cal. (Worth mentioning that some folk would actually exploit this, and wind the lens 'out' on the mount thread, to get a closer near focus, at the expense of infinity focus, like short range extension bellows, for portrait or close-up work)

As they have been mentioned, these True-Focal-Length 'long' lenses were common and favored over mirror lenses, as they were true-focal length, and optically less compromised than a mirror, as well as offering variable aperture setting, where construction of a mirror usually means a fixed aperture. Advantages of a mirror were usually that they were cheaper, as much as they were any more compact.. and maybe halo-highlight effects!

Fit it up; check focus cal is close enough; remember to meter and shoot closed down, and enjoy. Its a LOT of reach for the money, and as said, likely a lot of IQ with it! Possibly a bit long, especially on a crop-sensor camera, for an awful lot of situations, to my mind.. but I find 210mm a bit on the long side on film, most of the time... still, you'll fill the frame with moon well enough with it!
 
Thank you Mike, that's really good information. And thank you to everyone, the knowledge here is incredible! :)
 
Hi Folks, I'd like to reopen this thread given its title.

I have a different Photax Lens to discuss and it's crazy how there is so little information, available to me, out there on Photax Lenses.

I have a Photax Multi-Coated 28-70mm Macro f/3.5-3.8 Lens. It's presently mounted to a Minolta SR-T 101 SLR and both seem to have been kitted together as It has a custom camera case to protect them. I'd like to use the lens with my Canon Gear and some old macro accessories, which brings me to my question:

On the Photax MC 28-70mm Macro f/3.5-3.8 Lens ,what degree of "Macro" is it capable of? 1:1, 1:2 etc. I can find no information on this or any other Photaz Zoom Lenses either by Google, DuckDuckGo, or Bing. All responded, to me, with "No Search Results."
 
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Photax UMC Skylight (1A) Filter. Photax Multi-Coated 28-70mm Macro f/3.5-3.8 Lens. Minolta SR-T 101 SLR Camera

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Photax UMC Skylight (1A) Filter. Photax Multi-Coated 28-70mm Macro f/3.5-3.8 Lens.
 
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I would GUESS that it's more a close up lens than a "true" (1:1 or better) Macro lens. You could work out the actual ratio by taking a shot of a ruler at maximum magnification and calculating the size on a centimetre on the ruler when cast on the sensor/film.

Not sure who else used the same manufacturer as Photax but I would guess (again!) that there were just a couple of manufacturers making an assortment of lenses for several brands. I'd be looking at Tamron and similar brands to see if there might be enough common features for the lenses to be the same internally with "badge engineering" being the main difference.
 
All photax stuff was badged, I doubt anyone was told who the manufacturers were back then..
 
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So, any idea who was the "Badge" manufacturer? this lens configuration is definitely not listed in my Minolta Sr-T 101 Manual (under the camera,) and f/3.5-3.8 doesn't seem to coincide with other lenses.
 
So, any idea who was the "Badge" manufacturer? this lens configuration is definitely not listed in my Minolta Sr-T 101 Manual (under the camera,) and f/3.5-3.8 doesn't seem to coincide with other lenses.
There was a whole raft of larger independent dealers and chains of dealers many of which sold their own branded lenses and even cameras, unless you can find a retired buyer for one of them I don't think you will ever know who made what lens.
But it won't have been Minolta and like other camera companies they would not have listed off brand lenses in their promotional material.
 
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