Northumbria Police sell off bike fleet !

Gawd ...the mind boggles, next thing they will be selling off their guns in case of health & safety too, at least innocent electricians won't get shot at.
 
Genius :nuts: cars will go next as they have an elevated number of accidents compared to walking, then walking will have to have a Risk Assessment carried out for every street an officer may or may not walk along. That's before you even consider going onto private property to stop a robery in progress.

My Risk Assessment for collecting some oysters and taking blood samples took up 7 pages by the time the University Health and Safety Officer got involved :shake:
 
All this H&S has got right out of hand.
Common sense has gone right out of the window.
The Death of Common Sense
By Lori Borgman


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Three yards of black fabric enshroud my computer terminal. I am mourning the passing of an old friend by the name of Common Sense.

His obituary reads as follows:

Common Sense, aka C.S., lived a long life, but died from heart failure at the brink of the millennium. No one really knows how old he was, his birth records were long ago entangled in miles and miles of bureaucratic red tape.
Known affectionately to close friends as Horse Sense and Sound Thinking, he selflessly devoted himself to a life of service in homes, schools, hospitals and offices, helping folks get jobs done without a lot of fanfare, whooping and hollering. Rules and regulations and petty, frivolous lawsuits held no power over C.S.

A most reliable sage, he was credited with cultivating the ability to know when to come in out of the rain, the discovery that the early bird gets the worm and how to take the bitter with the sweet. C.S. also developed sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn), reliable parenting strategies (the adult is in charge, not the kid) and prudent dietary plans (offset eggs and bacon with a little fiber and orange juice).

A veteran of the Industrial Revolution, the Great Depression, the Technological Revolution and the Smoking Crusades, C.S. survived sundry cultural and educational trends including disco, the men's movement, body piercing, whole language and new math.

C.S.'s health began declining in the late 1960s when he became infected with the If-It-Feels-Good, Do-It virus. In the following decades his waning strength proved no match for the ravages of overbearing federal and state rules and regulations and an oppressive tax code. C.S. was sapped of strength and the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, criminals received better treatment than victims and judges stuck their noses in everything from Boy Scouts to professional baseball and golf. His deterioration accelerated as schools implemented zero-tolerance policies. Reports of 6-year-old boys charged with sexual harassment for kissing classmates, a teen suspended for taking a swig of Scope mouthwash after lunch, girls suspended for possessing Midol and an honor student expelled for having a table knife in her school lunch were more than his heart could endure.

As the end neared, doctors say C.S. drifted in and out of logic but was kept informed of developments regarding regulations on low-flow toilets and mandatory air bags. Finally, upon hearing about a government plan to ban inhalers from 14 million asthmatics due to a trace of a pollutant that may be harmful to the environment, C.S. breathed his last. Services will be at Whispering Pines Cemetery. C.S. was preceded in death by his wife, Discretion; one daughter, Responsibility; and one son, Reason. He is survived by two step-brothers, Half-Wit and Dim-Wit.

Memorial Contributions may be sent to the Institute for Rational Thought.

Farewell, Common Sense. May you rest in peace.
 
A ridiculous idea...I do increasingly wonder though whether the "Health & safety card" is increasingly been used as an excuse for cost-cutting, it's much easier for organisations to justify cutbacks etc on the back of Health & Safety

Simon
 
H&S is a royal PITA. It makes my job so much harder and time consuming.
Alot of the work I do will involve working in power presses. The power presses are in enclosures with gate access. To enter we have to padlock the gates open as this brakes the circuit, preventing someone else from closing the gate and then operating the press. Also we have to put in 2 or 4 safety props (depending on size or type of press) within the press which also brake the circuit and provide a few extra seconds should the press ram freefall due to lack of air pressure.
Don't tell anyone but we rarely use our padlocks and usually put in 1 or 2 safety props.
This is how the Chinese do it, not exactly the same work as I do and they have no safety gaurding, but lack of attention will result in lack of limbs or life. :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxT-f-hb8Sg
Even without H&S, I wouldn't be daft enough to do that.
 
In my experience, Health and Safety is just a convenient excuse for people who can't be arsed. We are always running into these sorts of excuses when trying to organise events for our astronomical society. EG:

*Forestry Commission telling us we can't use a car park at Hamsterley Forest for dark sky observing, in case someone drives into a ditch or trips over a tree root in the dark.

*University of Durham preventing us from holding a Moonwatch outreach as part of International Year of Astronomy in case someone injures themself on a telescope.

*Stockton Borough Council insisting members of Cleveland and Darlington Astronomical Society undergo a private Criminal Record check before they are allowed to take telescopes to meetings, incase a child or vulnerable adult wants to look through their telescope.

"The police force decided to sell off all the Honda and BMW bikes after deciding that officers using them were "particularly vulnerable to collision"."

When they are in cars, it's the public who have to watch out. :thumbsdown:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7990188.stm
 
I think it's all down to the "no win, no fee" accident claims culture that is being thrust upon us. People are frightened of being sued, so woul drather not bother.
I had to help my in-laws take delivery of a couple of arm chairs yesterday. The delivery driver/courier would only drop them off at the lobby door of the flats where my in-laws live. Apparently he'd previously been sued by another householder he delivered to because she had been injured during the delivery of her goods. He didn't give any more details than that.
 
I think it's all down to the "no win, no fee" accident claims culture that is being thrust upon us.

It's that & the scared Insurance companies. I'm a H&S advisor in the construction industry & know of specific cases where somebody has an an accident due to their own stupidy & still got money for it.

It's cheaper for the Insurance company to pay up than contest it in court :bang:

Most of the carp you see in the Daily Mail is not "Real H & S" , have a look here for safety myths
 
It's that & the scared Insurance companies. I'm a H&S advisor in the construction industry & know of specific cases where somebody has an an accident due to their own stupidy & still got money for it.

It's cheaper for the Insurance company to pay up than contest it in court :bang:

Most of the carp you see in the Daily Mail is not "Real H & S" , have a look here for safety myths
One of my workmates was paid out on a claim for an accident that was obviously his fault.
HSE only made the company improve the safety features on our presses to prevent further injuries.
The company however did pay out on my workmates claim, but that was more to do with loss of earnings because he was moved from our department. He got a lot less than if he'd been kept out of the department. He's just as liable to have another accident though, whilst most of still cut corners where we can, I wouldn't trust him not to go too far again.
It has been suggested by some that he did it deliberately to get money. The way he talks about it to others it wouldn't surprise me if he found another way to lose another finger tip.
 
It has been suggested by some that he did it deliberately to get money.

I've also heard rumours that "accidents" have been happening on constructions sites because people have been worried at the lack of jobs. It's easier to put a claim in than find a job :shake:
 
"There will be no loss of service to the public. Everything that can be done with a bike can also be done with a car."

How can they possibly expect you to swallow crap like that"! :cuckoo:
 
Maybe they'd reverse their decision if the enviro fruit cakes give them some bad press about the forces carbon foot print and the subsequent rise of emissions from the inefficient use of a car, the entire force will be on skate boards by Christmas.


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"There will be no loss of service to the public. Everything that can be done with a bike can also be done with a car."

How can they possibly expect you to swallow crap like that"! :cuckoo:

yeah. i've often seen a police volvo fitering thru heavy traffic.
 
There will be an accountant and a safety officer responsible for that farce.
 
There will be an accountant and a safety officer responsible for that farce.

To be fair to the health and safety people who do actually have an important role to play, Most of the current nonesense is due to accountants and insurance.

Years ago, everything was judged in terms of acceptable risk. e.g. it may be possible for a child to fall off of a slide in a playground and hurt themselves but has it happened in the past? Yes, but very rarely. Therefore this was considered an acceptable risk as the chance of it happening was very low.

Now it seems that any chance of a risk no matter how small is un-acceptable. Hence the removal of all slides from our local playgrounds. Even the one which was built into a hill so you were never more than 18" above the ground.


Steve.
 
"Maybe they'll offer us push bikes instead – as long as we can produce our cycling proficiency test certificates, obviously "

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PC Tony Cobban refused to sit on a mountain bike for a photograph because he hadn't passed his cycling proficiency test

"'I was just being cautious as I haven't passed the cycling proficiency test." said PC Cobban

Fortunately his colleague, PCSO Emma Nixon, who has passed her test, stepped in to pose on the bicycle instead.
 
Another prime example of health and safety gone mad in this country.
 
Another prime example of health and safety gone mad in this country.

all this started with the free lawyers so blame them, you had to be rich or brave to sue when the bill could run into thousands , as soon as the free lawyers arrived everybody sued because there was no risk
 
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