New lens questions for my Sony A6000 ????

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O.k so the standard Sony kit lens works well enough for me but I'm thinking of buying a new smaller manual lens ( I tend 99% of the time to use it at the wide end) so am thinking of something from Artisans at about 10 to 20mm ( I have plenty of manual film lenses but with the crop factor I cannot get them down to this focal length) My first question is If I were to buy a 10mm lens for the Sony would this have the same field of view that I would get from the Sony at 10mm or would this be full frame equivalent ? ( hope that make sense) The second question is as I like to get everything right in camera would the lens work o.k in the Sony without any correction or would I need to do this in post ? The Sony lens shows some distortion in .raw files which is corrected by the camera in its .jpegs .

Thanks all.
 
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AFAIK the vast majority of lenses are marked in FF speak so you need to apply the crop factor. So, for APS-C a 10mm lens will look like a 15mm FF FoV and you'd need a 13/14mm lens to give you the same FoV you'd get with a 20mm lens on FF.

With some camera and lens combination you'll see the corrected image but you may have to turn this on? I don't know. I wouldn't see that as a big problem as I always shoot raw and it's relatively easy to apply a lens profile on the pc.
 
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Regarding focal length - as Alan says you do need to apply the 'crop factor' if comparing the field of view of a lens on the A6000 to one on a FF camera.
Note that this applies to all lenses - so if you are comparing the field of view from your APS-C kit lens (16-50), then the field of view at the wide end will be the same as the field of view from a 16mm FF lens on the A6000.
Note that Sony do a 10-18 f/4 OSS lens which is quite reasonable - and only 225g so fairly light.
This will automatically apply any lens profile corrections to in-camera Jpegs, and if shooting RAW then there should be a profile available for whichever editor you use to correct in post (same as for the 16-50).
 
Thanks for your help, I was hoping to get the image right in camera so may have to stick to film lenses although I will of course lose the field of view I was after. I really want manual focus as well ,the Sony lens will of course do manual focus but feels very cheap and nasty when doing so. Are the after market Sony lenses of better quality than the kit lens ?
 
I found this site really useful for choosing lenses for my A6XXX cameras:
briansmith.com

Ultimate Guide to APS-C E-Mount Lenses for Sony Mirrorless Cameras

Here's a full round-up of APS-C E-mount lenses for Sony a6500, a6400, a6300, a6000, a5100, a5000 and NEX Mirrorless E-mount Cameras
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The Manual focus section on Rokinon/Samyang is probably where you need to look as well as the Budget section for the 7Artisans lenses.
 
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I don't know if sticking to film lenses is going to be a success as once you get to 24mm things get expensive and once you go wider things can get rare and expensive.

I have a 19mm f3.8 Vivitar which is cheap but awful for distortion but it does tidy up post capture and a 17mm f3.5 Tokina which is a bit better. I think anything good will be expensive.

I think if looking at a wide I'd be looking at modern AF or MF rather that film era.

PS.
I think on APS-C you'll get better quality results out of a kit lens, but not quite the manual lens tactility and use experience.
 
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The 16-50 kit lens that comes with the A6000 is a lot better than many might claim - BUT it is very much optimised to be small and compact. It is a 'Power Zoom' lens, which means zooming and manual focus are actually just activating switches which cause the motors in the lens to make the actual adjustments (I think it applies to focus as well as zoom, not 100% sure though) - and I would agree that it's not the best in terms of how it feels.
I use my A6000 as my 'travel' camera - so the small size is the reason I keep mine, but I do keep looking at better lenses in the range and wonder if I should upgrade :).
I do have the 35 and 50 f/1.8 OSS primes, and just had a quick test using MF on the 50 (I normally use AF), and it does feel MUCH nicer - you also have the Focus Magnification feaure, where the EVF shows a close crop of your focus point as you adjust the focus, which is nice for getting it really accurate.
 
Thanks everyone for all the info, really appreciated . I did have look for wide film lenses and as you say Alan anything wider than 28mm starts getting really expensive but I do really like the user experience of a manual focus so think I will go for a modern manual focus lens. the nearest use i put the camera to is as Travel camera as I'm always doing other things and fit the photography in around them.

Thanks again everyone.
 
I have a Sony 6000 (love it) and bought inexpensive adapters for my film lenses. The manual-focus feel is nice and the lenses are inexpensive but its the crop factor that is a pain -- widest I have are 28s which have a FOV similar to a 42mm on my 35mm cameras. An odd size to be sure, so I don't wind up using the MF lenses much. That said, you can probably pick up a Vivitar or Tokina 28/2.8 for about $25 give or take, and an adapter is another $15, so that's a cheap way to try things out... in the end I wind up mostly using my kit lens (I have the 18-55) and letting it focus. The extra speed is nice, but we're only talking about a stop, and with the Sony's better performance at high ISO (compared to film) it's a wash.

So far the only thing that has tempted me to go FF is the Sony A7C -- same form factor and now my film lenses would work at their "proper" focal lengths. Can't justify the price, though. $1,800 buys a LOT of film. :)

Aaron
 
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