New computer build - help/input appreciated.

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I have asked my pal that built my old PC about 10 years ago now to build me a new one, mainly for editing and a bit of tinternet browsing, no gaming or stuff like that. this is what we are thinking. I will want to run the new lightroom & photoshop CC on it. Grateful for any input or comments on what we have.
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Ebuyer £129.99 MoBo ASRock Z370M-ITX/ac 8th Gen LGA 1151 DDR4
Ebuyer £247.97 CPU Intel Core i5-8600K 3.60GHz LGA1151 Processor
Ebuyer Cooler
Ebuyer £220.46 Memory Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit - Red LED Lighting
Ebuyer £57.99 PSU Cooler Master GM-Series 550W Semi Modular 80+ Bronze Power Supply
Ebuyer £41.49 Case Cooler Master Elite 110 USB3.0 Mini-ITX
Ebuyer
Ebuyer OCZ 256GB Vertex 4 SSD - 'C' Drive
Ebuyer Western Digital WD2500JS Caviar SE 200GB 7200RPM SATA2/300 8MB Cache - OEM
 
sorry Neil, mechanical ?
sorry about the links, I just copied and pasted it out of my email.
 
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I'm guessing the second hard drive is 2tb not 200gb.
Buy a second small ssd,120gb or so and put the Lightroom catalogue and cache on it for great performance.
 
For the price difference, I'd use an EVO 850 500gb drive for the operating system drive. You'll add photoshop and Lightroom program onto that as well as the OS. If you want to go for complete performance, have yet another ssd to import the raw files to to work on.
Not sure you need red led memory, I'd buy the standard vengeance memory, then spend the money saved on upgrading the cpu to the equivalent i7.
 
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thanks Byker, I'll mention that to him. the other thought was a usb 3 external drive for the storage. do you think the 16gb ram will be enough?
 
I would change the RAM and MOBO to these to save £70 odd.

https://www.ebuyer.com/815714-gigabyte-z370p-d3-socket-1151-motherboard-z370p-d3
https://www.ebuyer.com/store/Components/cat/Memory---PC/subcat/DDR4-2133MHz

Then add this graphics card instead of using the CPU graphics.

https://www.ebuyer.com/761965-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-d5-2gb-graphics-card-gv-n1050d5-2gd

It would cost £45 more overall but I think photoshop does benefit from more GPU power.

Features that require a GPU for acceleration

  • Artboards
  • Camera Raw (more information)
  • Image Size – Preserve Details
  • Select Focus
  • Blur Gallery - Field Blur, Iris Blur, Tilt-Shift, Path Blur, Spin Blur (OpenCL accelerated)
  • Smart Sharpen (Noise Reduction – OpenCL accelerated)
  • Perspective Warp
  • Select and Mask (OpenCL accelerated)
 
Mick616 said:
thanks Byker, I'll mention that to him. the other thought was a usb 3 external drive for the storage. do you think the 16gb ram will be enough?
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I've got 32gb ram, it it depends on how many layers you'll be using in Photoshop.
 
thanks Byker and GTC for your input. I dont (at the moment) do layers very much as yet but will do more as I learn more perhaps.
 
The other thought is to get a motherboard that take the M2 SSD - the Evo 950 that I have is stunningly fast

So my spec built about 18 months/2 years ago is:
Asus Maximus Hero motherboard , i7 skylake processor, 32Gb of Corsair vengence Ram, in a Fractal design R5 case.
Hard drives are 500Gb Samsung evo 950 M2 SSD for OS, a pair of Samsung evo 850 SSD's, one for lightroom catalogue and cache, one for this years raws. Then 4 x 4Tb WD Red in a raid 5 for storage, previous years Raw files and exported files, music etc.

Disappointing thing with the Maximus is you can't use the onboard raid if you have an M2 SSD fitted, but I wanted the 2500Mb/sec read, 1980Mb/sec write for the OS, so it has a raid card fitted.

I have 130,000 images in my lightroom catalogue and that beast flies
 
Now that's quite overkill a lot of disk space, but fast ssd disk for OS and another for the Lightroom cache and catalogue is the way. To go for Lightroom performance.
 
thanks Chris, I suppose though I could have a bad expeience with any part really. its a chance we take.
 
Mick616 said:
thanks Chris, I suppose though I could have a bad expeience with any part really. its a chance we take.
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First one was a benign PSU death no issues and easy to swap out. Second one much the same. Third on went spectacularly and took the MB and effectively the processor with it as I couldn't source another MB to work with the original I7 920. Fourth didn't fail as such but despite being rated at 1000w couldn't supply a stable enough voltage to supply a new Nvidia 1080 under any sort of load.

Four times bitten etc... ;-) Replaced with EVGA on recommendation and no issues since over the years....
 
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Byker28i said:
Not sure about the graphics card, I'm running happily with the graphics on my motherboard. I guess it depends on how much you do in photoshop. I mostly use Lightroom, but occasionally do some multilayer work in photoshop.

Have a read on the supported/ recommended
https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cc-gpu-card-faq.html
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Indeed. Gpu acceleration on adobe products doesn't really work too well either right now.

Plus the crazy cost of Gpu right now. Even the second hand market has blown up price wise. Which is great as my Gpu is failing on me.
 
ChrisJ_SLH said:
After a number of bad experiences with Coolermaster PSUs I would swap it out for and EVGA equivalent. (One of these bad experiences was very bad indeed, dead motherboard after PSU popped).
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Agree

All my parts were either Ebuyer (disks) or Scan (motherboard, ram, CPU. Looking at another thread my build was:

1 x Fractal Design Define R5 Black Pearl Computer Case
2 x Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5inch SSD
1 x Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD
5 x WD Black 4TB 3.5" SATA Desktop Hard Drive
1 x EVGA Supernova 750W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
1 x Asus Maximus VIII Hero Z170 Socket 1151 HDMI DisplayPort 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
1 x Intel core i7 unlocked Skylake 6700k CPU
2 x 16Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 PC4-2400 Ram
1 x Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler (120mm fan, very quiet)

It's silent.
So as said I have the evo 950 SSD for the OS and product installs, Lightroom, Photoshop, Office etc
850 Evo SSD for the lightroom catalogue and cache. This was overkill, you could use a much smaller drive 120Gb or so.
850 Evo for this years Raws - import to SSD and work from this in Lightroom. Again this depends on how many images you do a year, could be smaller.
 
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