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Hi,

Quite new here and not really on the pulse of latest camera equipment. I am a designer by trade but have always been involved with photography in one way or another. As a freelancer I have to watch the pennies and don't have a large slush fund for new equipment.

I bought a 100d when starting out, to do some product shots (watches and chocolate) for a few customers. It worked fine with a few lights and a tent. I then added a couple of flashes and wireless trigger. Since then I have had jobs involving shoots at events in restaurants at night, usually dimly lit (not able to use lights or flash) so got myself a 18-50 f2.8 lens and a 50mm f1.8 to capture the limited light. The 100d still seems up to the job (just about!!).

Now I am being asked for video and this seems to me to be past the acceptable limit for the 100d. It is struggling to focus. I know I need to upgrade my equipment and have been looking at the 77d. Thinking about the 77d over the 80d because of the higher iso and the image stabilisation for video when hand held.

The one thing that is nagging me in the back of my mind is if I am limiting myself with an aps-c camera (because of the lenses i have) or should I look at a full frame camera (further into the future when I have budget)?

Will I notice a step up from the 100d to the 77d in low light photography? My main reason for considering the 77d is for video, so an older base model of full frame won't be as good in this department, but probably be way better on the photograph front!

Any advise would be very welcome!!!!

T
 
Cannot speak for the 77D or any xxD series but my 5D3 is not great for video.......superb for stills :)

However, my brother wanted me to take the pictures at a jazz band concert (he is one of the Sax players). Using his 6Dmk2, I also took video and was pleased with the way it functioned and the results overall. Suffice to say he was pleased with both stills & videos, oh for the record he is a photographer by background & profession.

So just some food for thought???
 
Box Brownie said:
Cannot speak for the 77D or any xxD series but my 5D3 is not great for video.......superb for stills :)

However, my brother wanted me to take the pictures at a jazz band concert (he is one of the Sax players). Using his 6Dmk2, I also took video and was pleased with the way it functioned and the results overall. Suffice to say he was pleased with both stills & videos, oh for the record he is a photographer by background & profession.

So just some food for thought???
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The 77D has the dual pixel technology so should be great for video (y)

OP as to whether you will see a great deal of difference in terms of IQ when comparing the 77D to a FF camera is debatable. There'll be a difference, how big is subjective. I can't comment on Canon as I'm a Nikon user, but in terms of noise you're only gaining 2/3 stop to 1 stop noise advantage depending on models you're comparing. Then there's the whole FOV and DOF differences, plus the cost and weight of FF lenses. Only you can decide whether it's what you want to do (y)
 
Box Brownie said:
Cannot speak for the 77D or any xxD series but my 5D3 is not great for video.......superb for stills :)

However, my brother wanted me to take the pictures at a jazz band concert (he is one of the Sax players). Using his 6Dmk2, I also took video and was pleased with the way it functioned and the results overall. Suffice to say he was pleased with both stills & videos, oh for the record he is a photographer by background & profession.

So just some food for thought???
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Now i am trying to work out how to get a 6dmk2 and lens (mine are mostly ef-s) close to my budget!! Appreciate the advise. T
 
snerkler said:
The 77D has the dual pixel technology so should be great for video (y)

OP as to whether you will see a great deal of difference in terms of IQ when comparing the 77D to a FF camera is debatable. There'll be a difference, how big is subjective. I can't comment on Canon as I'm a Nikon user, but in terms of noise you're only gaining 2/3 stop to 1 stop noise advantage depending on models you're comparing. Then there's the whole FOV and DOF differences, plus the cost and weight of FF lenses. Only you can decide whether it's what you want to do (y)
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Maybe a two step plan, 77d (with 100d as backup) then FF later date (with the 77d as backup). Cheers, T
 
Tdes said:
Hi,

Quite new here and not really on the pulse of latest camera equipment. I am a designer by trade but have always been involved with photography in one way or another. As a freelancer I have to watch the pennies and don't have a large slush fund for new equipment.

I bought a 100d when starting out, to do some product shots (watches and chocolate) for a few customers. It worked fine with a few lights and a tent. I then added a couple of flashes and wireless trigger. Since then I have had jobs involving shoots at events in restaurants at night, usually dimly lit (not able to use lights or flash) so got myself a 18-50 f2.8 lens and a 50mm f1.8 to capture the limited light. The 100d still seems up to the job (just about!!).

Now I am being asked for video and this seems to me to be past the acceptable limit for the 100d. It is struggling to focus. I know I need to upgrade my equipment and have been looking at the 77d. Thinking about the 77d over the 80d because of the higher iso and the image stabilisation for video when hand held.

The one thing that is nagging me in the back of my mind is if I am limiting myself with an aps-c camera (because of the lenses i have) or should I look at a full frame camera (further into the future when I have budget)?

Will I notice a step up from the 100d to the 77d in low light photography? My main reason for considering the 77d is for video, so an older base model of full frame won't be as good in this department, but probably be way better on the photograph front!

Any advise would be very welcome!!!!

T
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have you thought about getting a camcorder for videos, Take a look at the Panasonic range the picture/sound quality is excellent. I have one and had it for a good few years which is why I recommend them.
Below not bad with tricky lighting conditions

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD8BYmx4vIs
 
What model was this shot on?

Most of these events I have to remain in the background and need to take stills and video, one machine would be easier but will look at them. Cheers, T
 
This is the Panasonic HC-X900M no longer in production. What I like about it is there are 2 recording methods. first a 32gig built in memory and second an SD card slot. These can be used in any combo. ie stills to camera or card or both and same with video.
The later version the HC-X920 records only to SD cards for both stills and video I believe, there are a couple for sale used on ebay at the moment but again out of production.
With a camcorder there is no recording time limit also zooming in is smoother. there also is no focus lens click as it zooms in/out
obviously newer models will be improved on what I use.
 
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Well, I went for the 77d and it performed very well on its first two outings (one video and one photo).

Still getting used to it but an heading to north Devon for two weeks so hoping to get some practice in to learn it's limitations and make it an extension of my arm!!

T
 
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