Muted colours and colour cast issues.

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I've recently calibrated my Dell 2090WA with a Spyder3pro. It seeemed to me that there was a slight green cast on the screen, but I never trust my eyes on this. Anyway, I've just had a job back from DSCL and the cast is very easy to see to my eyes. There is also a very noticable lack of vibrancy and colour to the prints. They look VERY muted compared to my screen - much more so than ever before.

Here's one of the shots so you can tell me how out it is. To me it looks like it has a slight green cast.

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I think the image is slightly cyan rather than green. In fact a couple of points of either magenta or red in Photoshop made the flesh tone a bit warmer and more pleasing . Plus I thought a bit of density helped as well. But that's down to personal preferences.

I've never used DSCL but I remember they ask you to use a supplied profile prior to printing. Did you do this? Have you spoken to DSCL about the problem as they may have a answer for you

Whilst DSCL do seem to have a good reputation you may want to try a test with another lab and see what the rsults are like.
 
Chappers said:
I think the image is slightly cyan rather than green. In fact a couple of points of either magenta or red in Photoshop made the flesh tone a bit warmer and more pleasing . Plus I thought a bit of density helped as well. But that's down to personal preferences.

I've never used DSCL but I remember they ask you to use a supplied profile prior to printing. Did you do this? Have you spoken to DSCL about the problem as they may have a answer for you

Whilst DSCL do seem to have a good reputation you may want to try a test with another lab and see what the rsults are like.
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Thanks John, I'll play with those colours. I've followed DSCL's instructions to the letter and have had conversations on the phone with them in the past with no satisfactory outcome.

I used Samslab for a while and was delighted with his quality, but found the service, quite frankly, a joke.

The problem is I don't trust this calibration - screen still appears to have a slight cast.
 
POAH said:
you can find the screen has a hue depending in the light you work in.
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I thought that was the issue as I was working in a room with apple green walls. I've since moved into a room working in the dark with neutral walls. Same problem.
 
I think I'd agree that it's ever so slighty cyan. I'm calibrated too, also with a Spyder 3, and I use dscl. I've found my prints a near perfect match now.
However, the first time I used my Spyder everything went green, I mean really really green. In desperation I ended up uninstalling the software, and downloading the latest verison from their website. Next time it calibrated perfectly.
Not sure why, but might be worth a try?
 
Elli said:
I think I'd agree that it's ever so slighty cyan. I'm calibrated too, also with a Spyder 3, and I use dscl. I've found my prints a near perfect match now.
However, the first time I used my Spyder everything went green, I mean really really green. In desperation I ended up uninstalling the software, and downloading the latest verison from their website. Next time it calibrated perfectly.
Not sure why, but might be worth a try?
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I've got the latest software. :(
 
Thing is the software on my disk and the software I downloaded were the same version? Otherwise, I'd maybe contact Colourvision and see what they say. I'm sure I read somewhere that others have had 'green' problems and were sent new Spyders.
... do you have another monitor/mates machine that you could try it on?
 
First of all I like the shot...

I've had a look on my U2410 calibrated with the same piece of kit. Your image looked slightly muted but not badly. Colour cast was v.slightly cyan/green.

I have made the following changes (LR2) to just about where I would put it for a DSCL print:

WB: Colour +5, Tint +7
Exposure: +0.19
Blacks: +5
Clarity: +26
Vibrance: +14
Saturation: +24

Slight sharpen on export.

The result looks like this (please let me know if you would like me to delete the image)....


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Elli said:
Thing is the software on my disk and the software I downloaded were the same version? Otherwise, I'd maybe contact Colourvision and see what they say. I'm sure I read somewhere that others have had 'green' problems and were sent new Spyders.
... do you have another monitor/mates machine that you could try it on?
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Tis a borrowed spyder3. :)

Hodders said:
First of all I like the shot...

I've had a look on my U2410 calibrated with the same piece of kit. Your image looked slightly muted but not badly. Colour cast was v.slightly cyan/green.

I have made the following changes (LR2) to just about where I would put it for a DSCL print:

WB: Colour +5, Tint +7
Exposure: +0.19
Blacks: +5
Clarity: +26
Vibrance: +14
Saturation: +24

Slight sharpen on export.

The result looks like this (please let me know if you would like me to delete the image)....


test.jpg
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That looks perfect to my eyes, Ben, thank you. I have so much to learn about colour management - especially when I forget to take a custom WB. :D
 
Just a thought. Not used the Spyder software ( I'm using X-Rite) can you adjust the WB to something a bit warmer, say from 6500K to 6300K
 
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