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I have seen many photographs on various websites\magazines ect, but there is one that will always haunt me.
Its the picture taken by Theo Liasi a photojournalist from the UK.

You can see it here, but please be warned it is very graphic.

Even though Theo does not know what became of the girl, I still return to this web site hoping that he may update it about if she survived or not.

http://www.epuk.org/Showcase/546/afghan-child-theodore-liasi-1995

So does anyone else have any pictures that have had a long lasting impression on them?

Spence
 
there was a guy on sportsshooter who was near the bus bomb in london. when the bomb went off he run towards the noise, and then took some pics including close ups of dead bodies faces, decapated bodies, limbs lieing on the road..
i came across them by accident in his gallery. they were thought provoking because i thought 'what a ******'
 
The picture of the pro hunt campaigners dead horse on that same page does it for me.
 
It is indeed a haunting photo.

I think you need to put a bit more info about an image before posting a link like this though. A lot of people, myself included, find this kind of subject matter very upsetting and I also know a few people that have a genuine phobia's of images containing people with burns, to the point of not sleeping after. Saying it's 'graphic' didn't really give me any idea of what I was about to look at... saying 'it's graphic and may upset people' or 'it's graphic and contains images of burns and injuries' may be a bit better!

However, I do think that this kind of subject matter needs to be bought to people attention, and there is no better way than photography and media.
 
badgerbaiter said:
there was a guy on sportsshooter who was near the bus bomb in london. when the bomb went off he run towards the noise, and then took some pics including close ups of dead bodies faces, decapated bodies, limbs lieing on the road..
i came across them by accident in his gallery. they were thought provoking because i thought 'what a ******'
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he was documenting the immediate aftermath of a bomb explosion, why is that such a terrible thing? :shrug:

I can't really think of any photos right now that have left a seriously long term impression on me. I shall have to think about it
 
Aimee K said:
It is indeed a haunting photo.

I think you need to put a bit more info about an image before posting a link like this though. A lot of people, myself included, find this kind of subject matter very upsetting and I also know a few people that have a genuine phobia's of images containing people with burns, to the point of not sleeping after. Saying it's 'graphic' didn't really give me any idea of what I was about to look at... saying 'it's graphic and may upset people' or 'it's graphic and contains images of burns and injuries' may be a bit better!

However, I do think that this kind of subject matter needs to be bought to people attention, and there is no better way than photography and media.
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to be fair, the site also had a pop up message warning you of the content and only letting you see the pic if you pressed OK.. I think thats fair enough really.
 
olv said:
he was documenting the immediate aftermath of a bomb explosion, why is that such a terrible thing? :shrug:
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in this case, yes. if you cant help, then get out of the way and let the emergency services do their job. The police and fire brigade have photographers to document the aftermath, and they dont post the photos on the internet.

it just makes me feel sick that one day some child could accidently come across a photo of their dead mum with half her body blown off. Or even worse some internet idiots posting a copy on their website for everyone to laugh about it.
 
badgerbaiter said:
in this case, yes. if you cant help, then get out of the way and let the emergency services do their job. The police and fire brigade have photographers to document the aftermath, and they dont post the photos on the internet.

it just makes me feel sick that one day some child could accidently come across a photo of their dead mum with half her body blown off. Or even worse some internet idiots posting a copy on their website for everyone to laugh about it.
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An old teacher of mine had his son killed in the Enniskillen bomb in 1987, the tabloid newspapers printed the article with a picture of his dead son on the front page. :thumbsdown:
 
mole2k said:
An old teacher of mine had his son killed in the Enniskillen bomb in 1987, the tabloid newspapers printed the article with a picture of his dead son on the front page. :thumbsdown:
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I find it strange that the media are prepared/allowed to do this but when a group of younger vandals/criminals are captured on video they have their faces blurred out to prevent identification.

:shrug:

Bob
 
I think that some of the pics that came out of the Vietnam war were among the most significant for me. I don't have any connection at all to the war but it taught me that there is a value to that kind of photography and how the media can (and did) influence public opinion to the point that politicians actually had to listen.

The one of Kim Chong as a little girl running down the road naked and burned in a napalm attack is one of the most powerful images I've ever seen (google it if you want to see it) The fact that she's alive and well and living in the US makes it all the more powerful. I watched a documentary about her last year and she truly is one amazing lady.

I think her picture was a huge turning point in media reporting.
 
I think the most profound image I've seen is from the vietman war, and thiers two that really got to me,

1. The monks on fire
2. The photograph of the bullet to the head where I think the photographer caught it just on entry
 
badgerbaiter said:
it just makes me feel sick that one day some child could accidently come across a photo of their dead mum with half her body blown off. Or even worse some internet idiots posting a copy on their website for everyone to laugh about it.
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i suppose for me it depends on the manner in which they are presented. If it's there purely to show how destructive a bomb can be, and the aftermath it causes to show what a serious and terrible thing it is.

i couldn't imagine someone taking photos of that nature to mock people or degrade them :thumbsdown: obviously that'd be awful.
 
badgerbaiter said:
in this case, yes. if you cant help, then get out of the way and let the emergency services do their job. The police and fire brigade have photographers to document the aftermath, and they dont post the photos on the internet.
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But the Police and others document it for their own needs. I can only assume that this photographer was documenting it because he felt that he had a responsability to document it. James Nachtwey photographs similar things so he can show how bad they are to people. A bomb goes off and if all you do is read about it in the papers its just text. If you see the reality of it then it matters.

it just makes me feel sick that one day some child could accidently come across a photo of their dead mum with half her body blown off. Or even worse some internet idiots posting a copy on their website for everyone to laugh about it.
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That'll happen no matter what. I remember being in history class and there was a photo in some book of a guy being executed. His head had been chopped off and of course this was funny to the morons in the class. This was some real person who had been killed in this manner and we only know the horror of it from the photo. It probably was someones son, brother, friend, father and all that. I do feel that photographers have to act responsibly to document these horrific events so that society can see with their own eyes what really happened. Idiots will always find something to laugh at, no changing that but they are a minority and photographers should not have to think "But some tard on the internet might laugh."
 
olv said:
i couldn't imagine someone taking photos of that nature to mock people or degrade them :thumbsdown: obviously that'd be awful.
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Ever heard of rotten dot com? (I haven't linked to it on purpose). WARNING: contains very graphic photos, including death etc. It is full of photos of how people have died (and other stuff).

There is always someone who wants photos of every sort *sigh*
 
Thats not what olv said though. Theres a difference between the sickos taking photos from other peoples sites and putting them in one place so everyone can gawk at them and the photographer who doucments society so that people know the true story of an event.
 
The original post asked for most thought provoking images. I think those images from Ethiopia that prompted Bob Geldof into the original Band Aid were in this category, as was the one of that poor young girl running down a street in Vietnam, after being Napalmed (sp).

On a lighter note, images of two special dressess... the one Liz Hurly wore held together with (very expensive) saftey pins and the one of Princess Diana's wedding dress...the shot as she got out of the coach with it all crumpled!

All these images were the ones that instantly came to mind when I saw the thread title.
 
badgerbaiter said:
in this case, yes. if you cant help, then get out of the way and let the emergency services do their job. The police and fire brigade have photographers to document the aftermath, and they dont post the photos on the internet.

it just makes me feel sick that one day some child could accidently come across a photo of their dead mum with half her body blown off. Or even worse some internet idiots posting a copy on their website for everyone to laugh about it.
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Yes but its news-people have a right to see the travesty-like what goes on in these wars.

You ar right aebout some seeing it but then that can be true of any news item around the world.
 
I'm with Pete. You can't base your life on some retards' opinions / behaviour. Besides, if someone wants to laugh at a photo, or ridicule the content, so what? It doesn't effect anything, nor change what happened.

I must admit after reading a tiny bit about this 'bang-bang club' the way some of the photographers write seems a bit blasé, and almost as though they were wanting violence and deaths so they could get a 'good' shot. I'd have to read a lot more before I confirmed that opinion though.

As for me, I aim to travel to the DR Congo, and other places, if I am able. I want to because the staggering ignorance of what goes on in the world everyday worries me. So if I can do a tiny bit towards changing that, then I feel I should.

Meanwhile, back on topic; I'll be boring and go with the Vietnam crowd and Nguyen Ngoc executing his 'suspect.'

There are others such as photos of the Second World War atomic bomb blasts. My brain is working very slowly today, but there are a few photos that always make me stop and think.
 
I can see how war pictures, or pictures of people going to die are very provoking. I find the one where some kid is going to be executed and the moment caught is right before it happened is really something.

But the picture where construction workers are eating from lunchboxes by on a steel girder really high up in the sky (by Charles C. Ebbets) is also provoking, just provokes different thoughts.

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"As for me, I aim to travel to the DR Congo, and other places, if I am able. I want to because the staggering ignorance of what goes on in the world everyday worries me. So if I can do a tiny bit towards changing that, then I feel I should."
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Maybe somewhat OT, but... do you not think such efforts are sidestreams by politics controlled mainstream media. I agree with you BTW in terms of wanting to go into such places and get the word out. The bang bang guys tried to do that to, but much of what they did was lost within the media org's and never got seen. Blog's & websites today allow more free postings to get out, but where are the images of the war ravaged masses in places such as Ruanda etc. The tog's are in there & working, but in order to make a living/ survive are mostly embedded tog's working towards specific remit. It costs to get the message out and non-politics individuals etc. just don't have that loot. Anyone being paid will always be working according to somebody's political agenda.
Just look at the restrictions placed on what can & can't be shown in media here, apparently due to "sensitivities" of family etc. Nothing other than blatant censorship, with a healthy dash of spin. And most folk are happy to just nod, smile and accept whatever is told to them.
Start bombarding Joe Public with images of war ravaged/ mutilated bodies etc. & you'll see sentiments start changing. Anything other than the harsh reality, is spin!
Look at the comments made here. Almost 100% of most throught provoking are years old. To late to make any change and now merely part of the tog history through repetition & not through the change it made at the time. I sometimes think that best many tog's can hope for is to provide record of events, not promote change.
 
@ Proglam:

Very true, censorship in the 'west' is a huge problem. We haven't ever had proper news. I suppose the Vietnam war put an end to that. The public said 'never again' and the governments said, yeah, we agree, definitely not gonna be showing you what we get up to in the future.

It has to change though, and I fear that we are nearing a 'tipping point' on some major fundamentals in the world. eg the global climate, and the point that the divide between 1st and 3rd worlds so to speak, becomes insurmountable.

Interesting to see what happens when China and India decide they've had enough of the US.

Just because it's hard, doesn't mean we don't try though. I'm under no illusions that I can make even a dot on anybody's radar. But I don't think I could call myself a half decent human being if I didn't at least try my best to do something about it.
 
badgerbaiter said:
there was a guy on sportsshooter who was near the bus bomb in london. when the bomb went off he run towards the noise, and then took some pics including close ups of dead bodies faces, decapated bodies, limbs lieing on the road..
i came across them by accident in his gallery. they were thought provoking because i thought 'what a ******'
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I think it must be a difficult situation to be in.
I don't think I would be able to do it!:'(

Spence
 
Aimee K said:
It is indeed a haunting photo.

I think you need to put a bit more info about an image before posting a link like this though. A lot of people, myself included, find this kind of subject matter very upsetting and I also know a few people that have a genuine phobia's of images containing people with burns, to the point of not sleeping after. Saying it's 'graphic' didn't really give me any idea of what I was about to look at...
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I think "but please be warned it is very graphic." & the pop-up makes it very clear!:thinking:

Spence
 
You know you can copy / paste more than one reply into one post :p
 
mole2k said:
An old teacher of mine had his son killed in the Enniskillen bomb in 1987, the tabloid newspapers printed the article with a picture of his dead son on the front page. :thumbsdown:
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I can remember Enniskillen, Omagh bombing, Hillborough, Kingscross fire & the Heysel stadium like it was yesterday, some of the video footage was quite harrowing.

Spence
 
Xplosion said:
2. The photograph of the bullet to the head where I think the photographer caught it just on entry
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It's called "General Nguyen Ngoc Loan Executing a Viet Cong Prisoner in Saigon"
He's about to pull the trigger, and NBC news caught the whole thing on video.

Read this though, because nothing is as simple as it seems.

Personally the images that made the most impact on me was a sequence of thirty Russian spetznatz charging a Chechen stronghold, attacking with WP grenades, bursting into the then burning building and the grizzly results. My grandfather told me how horrific war could be, but that confirmed just how horrific, It also made me respect those soldiers for being able to do such a difficult job because they thought it was the right thing to do.
 
I agree with Pete, if these things happen, they should be photographed. You people have issues with the photographers? I have issues with the perpetrators.
 
AliB said:
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The one of Kim Chong as a little girl running down the road naked and burned in a napalm attack is one of the most powerful images I've ever seen (google it if you want to see it) The fact that she's alive and well and living in the US makes it all the more powerful. I watched a documentary about her last year and she truly is one amazing lady.

I think her picture was a huge turning point in media reporting.
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Do you mean Kim Phuc? we studied her story at school,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thị_Kim_Phúc
 
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One image that succinctly and depressingly sums up the Rwandan genocide, IMO.
 
Not wishing to minimise the impact that any of the above photos have. They are indeed thought provoking.

Here's another thing to think about

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