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More Than 30 Freeview Channels Are Changing Next Week
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We have Freeview on 3 different devices and it is a game sometimes as to whether the one that does its retune automatically has actually done it.
But the one thing that annoys me in regard to the channel numbering, is why the heck the various +1 channels are not the very next number or at least on the same 'page' of the EPG
But the one thing that annoys me in regard to the channel numbering, is why the heck the various +1 channels are not the very next number or at least on the same 'page' of the EPG
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Surely channel numbers should be redundant. The interface of set top boxes feels positiviely archaic in this day and age.
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Changing any system like this takes years because you have to be sure the majority of customers' equipment can cope with the change. If that's not the case, you have to make the change an option and wait until a substantial majority of customers have replaced their equipment with the new standard, before you can begin the changeover.
Ofcom dictate which channels occupy Channels 1-5, I don't know about FreeView and other providers but certainly on Sky the TV companies pay a lot of money for channel number.We have Freeview on 3 different devices and it is a game sometimes as to whether the one that does its retune automatically has actually done it.
But the one thing that annoys me in regard to the channel numbering, is why the heck the various +1 channels are not the very next number or at least on the same 'page' of the EPG
I still wonder why I have to have a TV licence, bearing in mind I do not watch BBC anymore. I keep getting the freeview messages, so will retune my receiver when they change. It never takes very long and you sometimes find new channels.
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Defund the Beeb seems to be a thing these days and maybe that is for another thread (maybe there is one?) but regardless of the quality of their output or alleged political bias I too don't see why people should be forced to pay for a broadcaster they may not watch or listen to. Adverts do make some output just about unwatchable with a 6 minute advert break every 12 minutes and the Beeb does avoid that but I can't remember the last time I watched a TV show on the Beeb as it was broadcasted.
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Odd that BBC4 ended up on a channel as distant as 55 in Scotland when there so many trashy channels taking up low numbered slots in the EPG. How did QVC, Ideal World and Really end up in the top 24? Money, I suppose. They could swap one of those with 55 and nobody outside the companies that own them would care.
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Getting back to the very first post about the over 75's now having to pay, I have to ask why not? IMHO, if they are in a position to pay, they should pay like the rest of us or not use the service...I am not sure why age alone should have a bearing on it?
If the the question is why there is a licence fee at all, that's a different debate, and something I question myself...
If the the question is why there is a licence fee at all, that's a different debate, and something I question myself...
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And that would be fine if this was just about the Beeb but it isn't as if you watch any live tv you have to pay the BBC licence fee. Why should I or anyone else pay the BBC money if we never watch it but do watch ITV or indeed any other live tv?
I'd very happily not watch the BBC and not listen to BBC radio and I'm sure there are many others who'd like the same. Let the BBC stand or fall without this BBC tax on non BBC live tv. It's like Tesco demanding a fee when I only shop at ASDA.
I would say that's a different issue, and as such is pretty much how I feel about the licence over all too...
The Licencing say you have to have a licence to watch any "live" tv, which in their eyes constitutes any live broadcast from any channel, which can include repeats, highlights of sports which took place years/decades ago. I think you can ditch it, by watching Youtube channels, On Demand or Catch Up ( I do not know enough about these) and playing DVD's.
The BBC IMHO is a corrupt, monopoly of an organisation, which is no longer fit for purpose.
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What's a different issue?
You don't just need a licence to watch the BBC, they demand you pay it if you watch live tv but never BBC. That just can't be fair.
TBH I'm all for defund the BBC for many reasons, this being one of them. It's like some North Korean thing... "Yes we know you never watch us but you watch someone else so give us your money."
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Add bloated, preaching, sneering and dishonest to the list and even then we could go on adding negatives all week.
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Fair points, but since the boxes are replaced, albeit infrequently, the replacement boxes could contain a new interface.
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If somebody said to me they watch ITV and channel 4 but never BBC I’d take that claim with a very large pinch of salt...
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The last thing I watched was The Repair Shop but that's finished now. I recorded it and watched it later. I can't remember the last time I watched anything else. I do occasionally listen to BBC Radio but even that is much reduced now and I'd have no issue foregoing that dubious pleasure if needed. And I can't remember the last time I watched C4 either.
As to the fact that you don't believe me. I can live with that
Frankly I can't believe you watch the Beeb. Haven't you got better things to do?
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I was referring to your point “they demand you pay it if you watch live tv but never BBC” Note the word never.The last thing I watched was The Repair Shop but that's finished now. I recorded it and watched it later. I can't remember the last time I watched anything else. I do occasionally listen to BBC Radio but even that is much reduced now and I'd have no issue foregoing that dubious pleasure if needed. And I can't remember the last time I watched C4 either.
As to the fact that you don't believe me. I can live with that
Frankly I can't believe you watch the Beeb. Haven't you got better things to do?
And also note I didn’t say that I didn’t believe you!
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so what if you just have amazon prime and netflix?
I think you can watch them without a licence.
You sound like one of my former mates, who said he doesn't believe there are any deer in the country park behind our village, because he has never seen one.
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we are kind of like that now and i am wondering about just the disconnect of the airel and save the money.
literally its just the news on ch4
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Back in the day when a free licence was given to the over 75's it was seen as a way to give them the equivalent of a pension rise, with out having to give it universally to younger pensioners.
In much the same way as the winter heater payment was. The removal of the free licence is the equivalent of a pension cut.
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Obviously positions are entrenched and there is little point trying to change people's minds but a couple of thoughts:
The UK makes a large amount of export revenues from media and a lot of that comes from the fact that the BBC not only produces high quality programmes but also commissions a lot of work from independent producers. So, yes, the license fee is a media tax but it does provide benefits to the UK whether or not you watch the BBC
Why should my kids, who are students and taking on massive student loans pay the license fee so that over 75's who have seen generous, triple lock pension increases, on top of winter fuel allowance (students don't get that), can have a free license?
The UK makes a large amount of export revenues from media and a lot of that comes from the fact that the BBC not only produces high quality programmes but also commissions a lot of work from independent producers. So, yes, the license fee is a media tax but it does provide benefits to the UK whether or not you watch the BBC
Why should my kids, who are students and taking on massive student loans pay the license fee so that over 75's who have seen generous, triple lock pension increases, on top of winter fuel allowance (students don't get that), can have a free license?