Beginner Making a Portfolio - Feedback

Forkbeard

Suspended / Banned
Messages
475
Name
Jim
Edit My Images
Yes
I want to make a PDF portfolio of a few pictures - mainly just as a learning exercise - but would welcome some feedback on my Flickr photos. Are any of them worth putting in a portfolio to be seen by anyone else?! Or are they just 'snapshot' quality? I like some of them, but me liking them isn't at all a good gauge as to how good or bad they are. I've not been doing this long and don't have the opinions of any other photographers to go on, so any constructive criticism and feedback would be great.

Ignore the white borders and signatures, I'm going to remove them all.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/130337179@N02/
 
Last edited:
James, post a few directly to TP. A lot of people, including myself won't follow links.
 
They are a bit "snap shotty" but that's not necessarily a criticism. They are mostly well exposed, well composed images.

I just think they lack anything of real interest. Even the protest images look a bit bland, shot from a similar vantage point, no real context, no passion etc.

And I would find it odd looking at photos of protests, followed by a shot of fields.

Would be useful to know what you plan on using the portfolio for James?
 
Hi James,

For a portfolio I would actually create two, one with the demo shots and the other with the landscapes.

Don't be afraid to shoot detail such as peoples expressions, although if cropping you will need a descent original to start with and if you are too far from the action, the shot will not be pin sharp.
 
They are a bit "snap shotty" but that's not necessarily a criticism. They are mostly well exposed, well composed images.

I just think they lack anything of real interest. Even the protest images look a bit bland, shot from a similar vantage point, no real context, no passion etc.

And I would find it odd looking at photos of protests, followed by a shot of fields.

Would be useful to know what you plan on using the portfolio for James?

Thanks, I would probably agree with what you've said. I haven't really ventured very far with the camera, most of the pics are just local and shot over a bout a year. I've been finding my feet with the camera etc. and concentrating more on getting composure and settings right. I have a few trips planned this year though so hopefully I'll be able to shoot something a bit more interesting.

To be honest, the protest wasn't a lot more than a crowd standing around listening to people speak. I'll be attending another in April which should be a lot more heated.

The portfolio is just a learning curve really, I just wanted to do it. I was hoping I would have enough half decent shots to put in one!
 
Last edited:
Hi James,

For a portfolio I would actually create two, one with the demo shots and the other with the landscapes.

Don't be afraid to shoot detail such as peoples expressions, although if cropping you will need a descent original to start with and if you are too far from the action, the shot will not be pin sharp.

Yep, separating the subject matter makes sense. I will do two.

I was a bit hesitant to get up close with the 18-55 kit lens. I think for photographing people I would be more comfortable with a tele-zoom.
 
Last edited:
James, post a few directly to TP. A lot of people, including myself won't follow links.

OK, I'll post some when I've picked what I think I want to ad to the portfolio. The reason I didn't post any directly was because I wanted some input over which ones to use.
 
In fact I might create an old buildings/churches/graveyard theme, people theme, demos theme etc.

I think the one of the woman and the girl show spontaneity, but it really shouldn't be looking right up her nose if I am honest!
 
Portfolio.. a big bag for carrying large scale documents or illustrations, as may be carried by an artist or architect to show a client or potential client... that's how the term has entered the English Language to become used metaphorically to describe a collection of 'professional' work.. And worth a moment to mention, because.. when you say 'Portfolio', the implication is that such should be a 'Show-Case' collection of professional standard 'work', to demonstrate the quality of your work, to a potential client, in the hope of attracting commission from them... Which may be a start towards to answering your own question... 'cos at the end of they day, YOU are the only one who CAN answer this question, but for my tuppence worth;

If you want to create a true 'Professional' portfolio, then what needs to go into it, is that 'professional standard works', that will convince a potential client to give you more work.... and as such, ought to be tailored to the Client, and the commission you expect to get from them.... eg; you don't send a collection of studio portraits to the picture editor of National Geographic, in the hope they'll send you to Borneo! You don't send a collection of Landscapes to Vogue, in the hope they'll want you to do a cover shoot! Which may mean, you need more than one portfolio, or you need to change what is in the 'big bag of large scale documents' every time you go to show it to any-one....

But, also 'Less is More'; a portfolio is a graphical CV, it should be brief; and to the point; IF the client is interested to see more, they'll quick enough ask for it; you don't need to show them every picture you have ever taken, and the client sure does't need to spend forever wading through them all to decide whether or not to hire you.

A Chef doesn't give away a whole meal as a 'taster' to get the customer to buy their dinner from them. And THAT is what a portfolio is, a taster, to get the customer to buy your dinner; if you want to serve the whole dinner... then it's a diner party, NOT a taster.... and sounds like what you want to create isn't a 'Portfolio', its 'Presentation' or an 'Exhibition'.. and again, up to you what you want to put in it.. But , what you might put in it ought to be guided by who you wish to show it to, AND how you hope to influence them.

You HAVE to tailor the 'Presentation' to who-ever you intend to present it to!


Of your flicker stuff.... some of it is quite interesting.... NOT to me... I have to say... but there in lies my point.

Those street-shots for example... mean absolutely nothing to me. Sorry if this is a bit blunt, its no criticism of your work; photographically, that set are pretty competent, maybe a little over reliant on B&W reduction, but that's a matter of style and taste, but as your 'Audience' being shown them, I don't know what they are of, who is in them, what they were doing, or why. There is nothing there to engage me, nothing I can relate to, nothing to give me a clue WHY you took that photo; or why you are showing it to ME. They have no relevance 'to ME', no meaning 'to ME'.. WHY should I want to see them? And THAT is the pertinent question here.

There's a number of others in that flikr assemblage that I could imagine printed & framed and hung, as a SMALL COLLECTION, (Less is more remember; say 6 images tops) on a hessien display panel at a college open day or camera club exhibition.. but THAT provides the context, and the relevance that is missing here; Presented as 'photographic exercises' pertinence is for me to critique them for demonstration of photographic technique and aesthetic appeal..

So, questions back to you; you want to present your work; WHY? Who to? But most importantly, WHY do THEY want to see it? THEN you can start choosing what to present and the best way to present it to them... in context, so that it has relevance and meaning, and hopefully some 'interest' t THEM.
 
Thanks for the replies. Mike, thanks for taking the time to write that!

My reasons for wanting to do a portfolio was to put together a collection of competent photographs, of different subjects, just as a marker to what point I'm up to capability-wise; not necessarily to give anyone as I don't think I'm good enough. It was meant to just be a learning exercise and an opportunity to be a little shrewder with myself and cut out some stuff that I'm not happy with.

I think after reading your comments though I'd be better off spending time organising my pictures into subjects and getting busy adding more to them.
 
Thanks for the replies. Mike, thanks for taking the time to write that!

My reasons for wanting to do a portfolio was to put together a collection of competent photographs, of different subjects, just as a marker to what point I'm up to capability-wise; not necessarily to give anyone as I don't think I'm good enough. It was meant to just be a learning exercise and an opportunity to be a little shrewder with myself and cut out some stuff that I'm not happy with.

I think after reading your comments though I'd be better off spending time organising my pictures into subjects and getting busy adding more to them.

Honestly, you should just take more photos and produce something.

You can organise average photos all you want but they're still average photos. Whilst your sitting cataloguing them for no apparent reason you could be out actually doing something. Sorry if that sounds arsey. It's early and I can't get my head around why you would want to create a portfolio and why you think you'll learn anything from doing it :)
 
OK, so now we are getting to the nub.

Hint was, that a photo should have a purpose, relevance, and interest. What you are shooting at the moment are typical hobby shots; exercises in technique, shot not to a brief, or for any specific audience, but for your own pleasure. This is not really 'portfolio' material, or 'Presentation' material; and as a record of your own progress.. its not really 'work book' stuff either.... yet...

My daughter is doing her GCSE photography at school; she has an A3 scrap-book, she has to take in every lesson; each lesson, teacher gives the a 'brief' to shoot to; something like, "The theme is 'Texture'.. shoot 25 photo's to show how you might capture texture; provide a contact sheet of the full set, and three 5x4's from the set, fully critiqued, explaining your objective & set-up and technique for that photo. And that's what goes onto a two-page spread of her 'Work-Book'.. the theme, the 25 picture contact sheet, three notable photo's from the set.. and EXPLANATION of them. that's the key thing.

Purpose of a Work-Book, is to record your work; success AND failure.. you don't chuck out all the duffers just to make it look like you were an innate natural talent straight fro the start! Purpose is to keep track of your exercises, what you were trying to achieve, how you tried to achieve it, what worked, what didn't.. for your OWN reference.. or perhaps for a tutor/mentor in academic study. And You'll often learn more from the duffers that did't work, than you will from the odd shot that did.. and them's the ones you ent put on flikr, are they?

If that is where you are at, and what you want to create, then; go back to disc and dig out the duffers that go with the photo's you put on flikr; look at each 'set'; try and remember what you were trying to achieve, and state your 'brief', then self critique the shots you got from it..... and there is no shame in serendipity!* IF you didn't know what you were doing SAY SO.. don't make up a brief to explain the photo, recognise where you have got stuff by lucky accident, and SAY SO. Its the explanation of the photo, that is MORE important than the photo; Context; Relevance, REASON. Explain your photo's to your 'audience'... which in this case is YOU, so you know why you took it, how you took it, and whether its worked or not.

Having gone through what you already got, and put the words by them to explain them... duffers included....next step, before you pick the camera back up and carry on snapping, is to set your brief; define the experiment THEN go try and fill it.. you don't HAVE to stick to it, and you can always make another; but, the 'leap' is to move away from 'hobby' snapping, and shooting, like a pro, 'to order'.. even though you are 'comisioning' your self!

Make sense?

*Serendipity-Photography
I come from Film. We had to wait until the film had been developed to see our photo's; and we were never TOO sure what we might get. Which for me was a large part of the joy; the anticipation and the 'surprise'.. even if it was that the shot DID just 'work'! Something that's bee lost in digital, I think. Possibly why I still shoot the odd roll of out-of-date film, in cranky old cameras that possibly have sticky shutters, or perished light-seals and stuff! But still.... it's the spirit and ethos that Lomo slapped a brand name on and flogged to the Hipster generation.. to be perverted, when that generation jumped on £5 film cameras, I remember being pretty 'high end' serious film cameras, and calling them 'Lomo' just 'cos they are cheap, and can slap 'cheap' out of date emulsion in them! BUT.. that takes us off on another topic... Point is, that 'Serendipity-Photography' existed a long time before Lomo came along, and added punk, anarchic 'Just Do it' attitude to it. BUT, still merit in it, and a lot of fun to be found, JUST having a crack and seeing what you get, and sometimes enjoying your mistakes.. and learning to be had, IF you analyse why the 'mistake' made the photo.
 
The point about less is more. Make sure every picture is absolutely crisp and sharp (if it is meant to be that way), ensure everything is just perfect.

Did Ansel Adams, Joe Cornish or David Bailey ever make anything public that was second rate?

Be a perfectionist and don't use anything second rate.

I once organised an exhibition of pictures (not mine) and had to make the critical choices of which shots and how to display them. I may have disappointed a few people, but I knew a few civic dignitaries were attending and it could make a difference to funding, so I critically selected the best for the show and ensured the mounts etc were equally spot on and above reproach. I had other commitments and couldn't be at the event myself.

Imagine my surprise a few days later when I discovered one of the unannounced dignitaries was The Princess Royal no less. Make sure your presentations are always top notch, you never know who may ultimately see them!
 
Last edited:
Hi Mike, thanks for the reply. Yes, it makes perfect sense. The majority of the shots were basically me wandering around with the camera looking for something to shoot without having a clear goal or theme. The main aim was just practice - using the camera' settings etc. I think I'm going back to the drawing board, forgetting about Flickr, Portfolios, sharing pictures in general and just shooting more stuff. I think I got carried along with the whole social media aspect of Flickr and just wanting to put stuff on there, when a lot of it wasn't as good as I liked to think.

Spring is coming up so it should be a good time to get outdoors and shoot some stuff, this time have a plan. i might start with a wild flower project.
 
Last edited:
The point about less is more. Make sure every picture is absolutely crisp and sharp (if it is meant to be that way), ensure everything is just perfect.

Did Ansel Adams, Joe Cornish or David Bailey ever make anything public that was second rate?

Be a perfectionist and don't use anything second rate.

There are far more shots I have SALVAGED, than I've actually been really happy with. There's also a lot I've had to process quite a lot to make passable, or as Mike quite accurately pointed out have relied to heavily on B&W reduction. Since I've been looking at them more critically and honestly, there are only a couple that have turned out like I wanted them to.

I need to slow down and perfect the walking before a start to run I think.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top