Lumix GX80/85 OR Olympus OMD E-10 Mark II

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Hi All,

I've narrowed down my first camera options between these two but can't decide which one. I feel a few points may be useful in helping you to advise me:

1. I much much prefer the look of the GX80, the Olympus is too big and clunky for my liking.

2. Both are around the same price in the UK.

3. I would be buying one with the view to add a 20mm Panasonic Zuiko lens in the near future.

4. I'm not really bothered about the 4K video of the GX80 camera but am interested in street/urban photography and general snaps on holiday. I'm mainly interested in the still photo capabilities of the camera!

With this info please go go go with the recommendations!

Thanks
 
I'm pretty much deciding on the same 2 models for my first M43 camera, as a side set to my Fuji. It's a tough choice, I too will mostly concentrate on stills but I might like to dabble with 4K video also. If the em10 mk II had 4K vid it would be a simple choice, as I prefer the looks of it, especially in silver, and from what I have read around, Olympus do 5-axis stabilization better. Which is the main reason I want to give M43 a go. I love to use old vintage lenses with adapters, and to have all of them stabilized is a huge bonus - of course both cameras can do this.

I think your choice should boil down to whichever feels better in hand, which you prefer the look of and which menu system you feel you'd get along better with. Many people say the Olympus menus are OTT, confusing even, where people tend to praise the more simplistic, up front approach by Panasonic. Both have touch and tilt LCD so there's nothing in it there.

You mention size, there's really nothing between them in that dept: http://camerasize.com/compare/#633,673 apart from the 'hump' on the Oly makes it a little taller. The Panasonic is actually wider
 
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Cagey75 said:
I'm pretty much deciding on the same 2 models for my first M43 camera, as a side set to my Fuji. It's a tough choice, I too will mostly concentrate on stills but I might like to dabble with 4K video also. If the em10 mk II had 4K vid it would be a simple choice, as I prefer the looks of it, especially in silver, and from what I have read around, Olympus do 5-axis stabilization better. Which is the main reason I want to give M43 a go. I love to use old vintage lenses with adapters, and to have all of them stabilized is a huge bonus - of course both cameras can do this.

I think your choice should boil down to whichever feels better in hand, which you prefer the look of and which menu system you feel you'd get along better with. Many people say the Olympus menus are OTT, confusing even, where people tend to praise the more simplistic, up front approach by Panasonic. Both have touch and tilt LCD so there's nothing in it there.

You mention size, there's really nothing between them in that dept: http://camerasize.com/compare/#633,673 apart from the 'hump' on the Oly makes it a little taller. The Panasonic is actually wider
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Good advice except to say that the GX80 doesn't have a tilting LCD screen.
 
Nawty said:
Good advice except to say that the GX80 doesn't have a tilting LCD screen.
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It does: Unless you're thinking of articulating screen? In which case the Oly em10 mkII doesn't either.


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I prefer having the dpad allowing direct access to movement of the AF points rather than having to press another button first therefore the Panasonic would annoy me unless you can configure it to be this way?

The EM10 is very small, the issue with going too small is that they can become fiddly. The Olly is much prettier ;)
 
Panasonic have 2 things going for them - their menu system; even looking at the imnage I posted above makes me want to press it :D and the 4K video. Olympus on the other hand have supposedly better stabilization and some say, better colour profile for stills. Other than those choices it's down to looks. I prefer the Olympus look, just wish they had 4K on their budget models. I think the em10 mkIII does?
 
Cagey75 said:
Panasonic have 2 things going for them - their menu system; even looking at the imnage I posted above makes me want to press it :D and the 4K video. Olympus on the other hand have supposedly better stabilization and some say, better colour profile for stills. Other than those choices it's down to looks. I prefer the Olympus look, just wish they had 4K on their budget models. I think the em10 mkIII does?
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Menu layout looks similar to any other to me, including Olympus.
 
Cagey75 said:
It does: Unless you're thinking of articulating screen? In which case the Oly em10 mkII doesn't either.


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Odd, all the reviews I looked at said it didn't, oh well :)

I don't get the complaints about the Oly menus, they are pretty logical coming from Nikon (Fuji on the other hand are a dark art).
 
snerkler said:
Menu layout looks similar to any other to me, including Olympus.
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The selections look chunkier, less on screen, from what I've seen of the Olympus menus there's a lot more to them, going into sub menus etc ... wouldn't bother me tbh, I get used to any menu system I use pretty quickly. I could almost do run through the Fuji one blind folded.
 
I've never understood this obsession with menus.

I enter mine to format the card and adjust the clock and that's about it. Everything else is covered by a button, a dial or a switch.

A couple of words of caution on the 20mm f1.7. It's relatively slow to focus and it can cause banding at high ISO's. I'd recommend the Oly 17mm f1.8 instead.
 
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I don't get it either tbh, just going on every video review I see for Olympus, where they have a bit of a moan about the menu system - I'm watching thinking "doesn't look anything complex whatsoever" - the look and feel of a camera would come well before that for me. But I have to judge by these reviews sadly, to try imagine .... as there's not a decent camera store within range for me. I bought the X-T1 without ever having seen one in the flesh, and it worked out alright, you just know after viewing them, even online, enough.
 
I have to buy on line as there are no camera shops here and I don't get the free time to have a day out in Newcastle or York looking for camera shops. Whatever the menu's are like I can't imagine ever deciding a purchase based on the menus as they just doesn't seem to affect me. My Canon DSLR's didn't really have menus, they just had a long list of settings and I could spin the wheel and end up exactly at "Format the card" most of the time :D
 
having had fuji olly and panny didn't find any of the menu systems confusing after the first 2 days
 
I find Fuji's almost too simplistic, after getting used to it I was a bit "Is that it?" :LOL:
 
Cagey75 said:
I'm pretty much deciding on the same 2 models for my first M43 camera, as a side set to my Fuji. It's a tough choice, I too will mostly concentrate on stills but I might like to dabble with 4K video also. If the em10 mk II had 4K vid it would be a simple choice, as I prefer the looks of it, especially in silver, and from what I have read around, Olympus do 5-axis stabilization better. Which is the main reason I want to give M43 a go. I love to use old vintage lenses with adapters, and to have all of them stabilized is a huge bonus - of course both cameras can do this.

I think your choice should boil down to whichever feels better in hand, which you prefer the look of and which menu system you feel you'd get along better with. Many people say the Olympus menus are OTT, confusing even, where people tend to praise the more simplistic, up front approach by Panasonic. Both have touch and tilt LCD so there's nothing in it there.

You mention size, there's really nothing between them in that dept: http://camerasize.com/compare/#633,673 apart from the 'hump' on the Oly makes it a little taller. The Panasonic is actually wider
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Thanks for this, nice to know i'm not alone! I much prefer the look of the GX80 and if there is only marginal difference in image quality then my mind is made up in favour of the panasonic! I'm interested in urban and street photography and of course the GX80 is marketed as fitting that style of photography!
 
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