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Hi all, me and another TPFM, took a trip to the loop yesterday, following http://www.franknoort.nl/ directions, although we drew blanks, we had a little uncertainty of our bearing, and hope to be corrected on where we went wrong.

Travelling back up from the now non-derelict cross foxes inn, we passed a largish car park to our right, which holds about 25-30 cars, it looked like a pay car park, but their was an orange bag over what could've been a meter, I think the words on the orange bag saying "Out of Service" made us draw this conclusion, a little further up the road to our Left was a smallish lay-by, what could hold possible 3-5 cars.

Having parked in this lay-by, we set off on foot complete with tackle and walked back in the direction of the cross foxes, after a couple of hundred yards, we came across a gate with a no entrance sign upon it, and could see what appeared to be tractor wheel tracks, a little beyond this gate, it looked like a derelict/incomplete/abandoned project to build either a tiny cottage of a robust sheep pen, to the right there was a distinct sound of water leeeching from the mountain, also there was another gate, more tracks and then another gate behind a steep hair pin bend, of which again more tracks ascending to a wire fence towards the summit, behind that and a short decent from the route upwards was a ledge exposing the beautiful landscape and treacherous gorge should you over step the mark, across the gorge was most definitely Bwlch/Dynas, we wre upon Cad East, looking to our left was the silver reflections of Tal y Lyn lake, of which a pretty decent sized cloud blew up from there and consumed us in a wind whipped frenzied shower, soaking us to the bone, as a word of caution to any other amateur adventure toggers, make sure you understand the weather signs, and dress in good quality weather proofed clothing!

were we in the right place, or had we after only sighting the no entry sign on the gate after our decent, off the mark?
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Could any of you who are better experienced point onto the map where we SHOULD of been? http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=LL40+2SG&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4865637d55bf3535:0x1ce9de41e1710ac2,Dolgellau,+Gwynedd+LL40+2SG&gl=uk&ei=LVKcTqO2IIjTsgarq7yXBA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB4Q8gEwAA Thank you.
 
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from the cross foxes to tal y llyn and just before the road drops down the hill on the right is a very large car park.this is where you go up to cad west.before you get to this car park and just after a farm there is a gate on the left which is a forestry road which leads to a small car parking space and this is cad east
 
this is the view from cad west.

Cad West shows the car park to park in.

Cad East

If you go to google maps and pull the little man to the map you'll see the area the pics where taken.
 
We were soo close to where we should have been, gonna try again next week. Thanks for reply's.
 
have a look on here

http://www.lowflymedia.com/

there are directions to all locations including pics to help identify the way up and car parks

the 1st car park you mention sounds like cad west, i think the orange post is an emergency phone. its not pay and display
 
We thought we were on Cad east, but we were not supposed to be where we was, with the Cross Foxes behind you, we travelled about 3 miles in the direction towards corris, there was a small lay-by with enough room for maybe 3 - 4 medium sized cars, from there, we travelled on foot in the direction back towards Cross Foxes, we came upon a 5 barred gate on our right hand side, and as the OP details everything else, we now know we was quite a bit off the target, from the cross foxes, it is exactly 1 mile to cycle route 8, I feel stupid now.
 
We thought we were on Cad east, but we were not supposed to be where we was, with the Cross Foxes behind you, we travelled about 3 miles in the direction towards corris, there was a small lay-by with enough room for maybe 3 - 4 medium sized cars, from there, we travelled on foot in the direction back towards Cross Foxes, we came upon a 5 barred gate on our right hand side, and as the OP details everything else, we now know we was quite a bit off the target, from the cross foxes, it is exactly 1 mile to cycle route 8, I feel stupid now.

Dave
don't feel stupid - driving hundreds of miles to a spot you have never been before
if you ended up where I think you did - had there of been some traffic (aircraft) on the day you went, you would of most certainly been able to get some pictures
so don't be so hard on your self
Chris
 
Don't feel stupid. Last year I drove all the way up to West not thinking about my absolute fear of heights paid for a bed and breakfast, stayed the night got halfway up the hill realised I didn't have the stomach for it and then drove home another couple hundred miles!
 
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