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I've just bought a 580 ex mk1 and i have a few questions that i would like to ask.

I've read that this flash can act as a master and a 430 ex mk2 can be used as a slave.

How does this work? If i used the 580 on camera would this fire the 430 without triggers?

If i wanted to use both of them off camera would any old triggers work or would i need something expensive that retains ettl? I'm not sure if this is what the 580 does somehow without the need for triggers.

Lastly what type of diffusers would you recommend for a speedlight? I am not too clued up on these things at all although i'm reading up on the speedlight now as that's a bit more important than the diffusers at this stage.
 
Right i've just had a quick read about the YN622C triggers so am i correct in thinking that a pair of these triggers will allow the 580 to control the 430 with full ettl control? The info i'm reading seems pretty complicated but i'll get there.
 
scottduffy said:
Right i've just had a quick read about the YN622C triggers so am i correct in thinking that a pair of these triggers will allow the 580 to control the 430 with full ettl control? The info i'm reading seems pretty complicated but i'll get there.
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If only you'd got a 580EXii, the YN 622 triggers would be the ideal answer (all functions, and radio is better than the light-code integral system) but they're not fully compatible with the 580EXi. Can you change that to a Typeii gun?

On the other hand, you don't actually need anything - the 50D's pop-up can act as a wireless light-code master that will work with any eTTL enabled gun (580EX, EX2, 430EX etc). See handbook. And also, the 580EX can act as master too.
 
HoppyUK said:
On the other hand, you don't actually need anything - the 50D's pop-up can act as a wireless light-code master that will work with any eTTL enabled gun (580EX, EX2, 430EX etc). See handbook. And also, the 580EX can act as master too.
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I thought it was only the 60D and up that did this? I'm certain mine doesn't.
 
HoppyUK said:
If only you'd got a 580EXii, the YN 622 triggers would be the ideal answer (all functions, and radio is better than the light-code integral system) but they're not fully compatible with the 580EXi. Can you change that to a Typeii gun?

On the other hand, you don't actually need anything - the 50D's pop-up can act as a wireless light-code master that will work with any eTTL enabled gun (580EX, EX2, 430EX etc). See handbook. And also, the 580EX can act as master too.
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Richard was having an off day yesterday:), the only thing you can't do with the 50d, YN622s and 580exI is to remote control the Manual settings of the gun, so it'll control completely in ETTL mode, but if you want to have the flash on a manual power setting, you'll have to do it from the flash.

And like Leigh said, the built in flash on the 50d won't control your 580ex, you need triggers.

A caveat, a set of Pocketwizard Flex's and AC3 controller will allow you to manually control your flash from the camera position - but a new YN ETTLII flashgun and a set of YN622's will be cheaper.
 
Phil V said:
Richard was having an off day yesterday:), the only thing you can't do with the 50d, YN622s and 580exI is to remote control the Manual settings of the gun, so it'll control completely in ETTL mode, but if you want to have the flash on a manual power setting, you'll have to do it from the flash.

And like Leigh said, the built in flash on the 50d won't control your 580ex, you need triggers.

A caveat, a set of Pocketwizard Flex's and AC3 controller will allow you to manually control your flash from the camera position - but a new YN ETTLII flashgun and a set of YN622's will be cheaper.
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So I was. Apologies.

YN-622 and fully compatible Type 2 gun/s is the best solution though. At least I got that bit right :)
 
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Hi Folks,

I will start with the one gun anyway so i will purchase the radio triggers to help me fire the 580 off camera when the need arises. I am going for a week seaside break from Sunday for 5 days so i should get plenty of practice in.

Thanks for the info.

Regards

Scott
 
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