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I take it you after one of these then ?. Pink Fairy.

Canon 600mm f4 IS L USM

shown next to 70-200mm f2.8 IS L USM for comparison

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this huge puppy (This is not my image it was sent to me)

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mho01 said:
I take it you after one of these then ?.

Canon 600mm f4 IS L USM

shown next to 70-200mm f2.8 IS L USM for comparison

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Cripes!!!! Is that 600mm yours mho01???
 
I'd like to see some shots of the moon through that. :D (the 1200mm with 2x extender etc, etc).
 
Thats a thing of beauty, id honestly prefer a Canon 400mm F2.8 L IS with a 1.4x TC... but each to there own. And to reiterate Busterboys question.. Is that 600mm yours?
 
DreederUK said:
And to reiterate Busterboys question.. Is that 600mm yours?
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Yep it's his, I remember him posting that he had one. I'm very tempted by the 500mm f4L IS myself - just about hand-holdable in short bursts and less of a beast to hump around.
 
Lol, just a shame it's such a god-awful colour for anyone involved in wildlife photography (outside a desert anyway) ;)
I've used the canon 600 a few times, for the most part it's optically identical to the Nikon 600/4 ... but I.S. is just bit more forgiving in some situations.

Funny, years ago I used to excited by big lenses... now they're just tools for a job and I never really think about it unless joe public come up to you're shooting.

cheers,
 
I have a few shots somewhere taken with the 1200mm Canon, took them at a canon camera launch party, I will try to dig them out later.Its a pity they have now discontinued it, I suppose i will have to get a secondhand one when I win the LOTTO, If I can persuade someone to part with theirs.

Yes it is mine I have just upgraded from the 500mm f4.

And yes the colour is rubbish for anyform of wildlife, I have lots of camo it gets covered in when it goes out, but for its main purpose ie surfing shots the white is ok. I have always liked the Nikon for their black lens's. Thought about going sigma but the IS was a bigger advantage than the extra 200mm.

I had the 400mm f2.8 for a few weeks, but was no good for my kind of shooting, as it would have lived with a 2x on it all the time.

As for weight its only 3lbs heavier that the 500 and you can just hand hold the 600 for a few shots.

I have just changed the foot on it for a Wimberley low profile one, its a lot more compact now !
 
mho01 said:
As for weight its only 3lbs heavier that the 500 and you can just hand hold the 600 for a few shots.
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Interesting to hear you say that. You're the first person I've heard claim the 600mm to be hand-holdable. I really can't decide on the Canon 500f4 or the Sigma 300-800. The convenience of the zoom and the sheer range of the Sigma really appeals. The weight doesn't really bother me, but the lack of IS I think is a big factor? Then again if it had IS it would be a lot more wonga. :D
 
Yea I know what you mean, it took me a while to decide what to do. I figured a Sigma 800mm f5.6 or Canon 600mm f4 IS + 1.4x = 840mm f5.6, (and you can put the 2x on for 1200mm if you need too) plus it has weather sealing which was a must for me, as standing on beach's all day with all the salt spray etc is not good.
There was a guy at this years pro surf with the Sigma 300-800 and he kept a water proof cover over it at all times as the dust and sand would get blown on it and work its way between the rings on the barrel.
I would suggest have a play with both, depending how/where you buy them they are not too far apart cash wise.

I see you allready have the Nill head for it, I use the Kirk King Cobra for mine, may get a Wimberley when my boss goes to the USA at the end of this month.
 
mho01 said:
Yea I know what you mean, it took me a while to decide what to do. I figured a Sigma 800mm f5.6 or Canon 600mm f4 IS + 1.4x = 840mm f5.6, (and you can put the 2x on for 1200mm if you need too) plus it has weather sealing which was a must for me, as standing on beach's all day with all the salt spray etc is not good.
There was a guy at this years pro surf with the Sigma 300-800 and he kept a water proof cover over it at all times as the dust and sand would get blown on it and work its way between the rings on the barrel.
I would suggest have a play with both, depending how/where you buy them they are not too far apart cash wise.
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Hmmm.. weather sealing - a serious point that. Did you ever use a 2X TC with the 500mm F4 and if so did you see an appreciable drop in quality? Really appreciate your input on this, as I may well be taking the plunge around the New Year.

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Yeah I'm chuffed with the Nill head, really adaptable bit of kit.

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With the 1.4xmk2 the quality of the image lost a slight bit of contrast but nothing to worry about, sharpness was the same (fantastic) and the focus speed was ever so slightly slower, again nothing to worry about.

With the 2.0xmk2 the quality was noticably lower, a bigger loss in contrast, but again nothing major, sharpness suffers more but the images are still very very good. the biggest loss is in focus speed, I would say it focused about half as quick as the bare 500mm.

the quality loss was less than the 70-200 f2.8 with each converter, just to compare it. probably due to the prime lens.

I have lots of pics done with the 500 + 1.4xmk2 I will get some of the raw files onto cd for you and you can have a look at the files on your machine. (may take a week as my Quad is in for repair at apple and i'm stuck with an old pc laptop)

If your arround sheffield your more than welcome to take some shots with the 600 to check quality etc.
 
You're a gent, appreciate your input. The 500 is making more sense to me all the time. As you say the price difference isn't that much.

I'd love to play with your 600, but I haven't been to Sheffield in years.:D
 
I get down to dudley / sedgley now and again as my Sister lives there, so it Looks like a day at the Zoo then.
 
Small world. I'll do Dudley with you, if you're down here. :thumbs:

Not the best zoo in the world - never was, but at least it's critters. :D
 
OK I will let you know when I will be down.

I will probably need the 600 to get some good shots of the red panda as he's always up in the tops of those trees.
 
LOL. Cool. Let me know, the zoo is only a few miles from us so it should be no trouble. :thumbs:
 
Well chaps I have some serious artillery in my arsenal but I am simply drooling at this 600mm..
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I would also love to have a shot with this 600mm too but its only a dream at the moment.

Like you Cedric the 500mm f.4 is on my wish list at the moment but this 600mm birding lens really does appeal to me..:nuts:
 
Good comparison of the two lenses Tim HERE

A lot of birders opt for the 500 when it actually comes down to living with the beasts. Decisions, decisions! :D

You'll definitely need a gimbal head to hold one of these brutes too.
 
CT said:
You'll definitely need a gimbal head to hold one of these brutes too.
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Just point me in the right direction Cedric.. Show me where baby..:nuts:

PS: Thanks for the comparison link mate, Will have a better look soon.;)
 
PMSL. Hopeless case - no known cure. :lol:
 
CT said:
PMSL. Hopeless case - no known cure. :lol:
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I saw my doctor about this and he told me I had the incurable L disease..:(
 
My doctor's a sensible chap. He says "As long as you're warm and still moving do what you like!" :shrug:
 
CT said:
Good comparison of the two lenses Tim HERE

A lot of birders opt for the 500 when it actually comes down to living with the beasts. Decisions, decisions! :D

You'll definitely need a gimbal head to hold one of these brutes too.
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Very true, for most a 500mm is the far more sensible option... no matter 500 or 600, the key to good bird photography is getting close, coz you'll need to do that, even with these lenses and teleconverters. 600's do seem to have made a comeback though. The difference in genuine magnification between a 600 and 500 is far more than you'd logically imagine, it's something like 44% more... despite a difference of just 100mm of focal length.

cheers,
Andy
 
The wrong forum I know but how about a couple of nice images to wet my appetite from these long lenses..:love:
 
Some surf images taken at the Rip Curl Boardmasters Newquay 2006

With the 500 + 1.4x

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Camera model: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N
Lens model: Canon EF 500mm f4.0 L IS USM + 1.4xII
Focal length: 700.0mm
Exposure time: 1/800
Aperture: f/7.1
ISO equiv.: 125
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: shutter priority

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Camera model: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N
Lens model: Canon EF 500mm f4.0 L IS USM + 1.4xII
Focal length: 700.0mm
Exposure time: 1/800
Aperture: f/8.0
ISO equiv.: 125
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: shutter priority

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Camera model: Canon EOS-1D Mark II N
Lens model: Canon EF 500mm f4.0 L IS USM + 1.4xII
Focal length: 700.0mm
Exposure time: 1/800
Aperture: f/8.0
ISO equiv.: 125
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: shutter priority
 
Superb class shots there Mark, More reason to part with some more money..:nuts:
 
Thought id post them as both you and CT are after the 500, I was well pleased with mine as you can see, the detail in the pics is quite astounding considering they have a 1.4x on as well.
 
As the title says "Look at this huge puppy !"
thanks to the admin for that one
I thought we should have a huge puppy.

This is not my image, sent to me by a friend.

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mho01 said:
Thought id post them as both you and CT are after the 500, I was well pleased with mine as you can see, the detail in the pics is quite astounding considering they have a 1.4x on as well.
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Great pics indeed (Mark?) and much appreciated. :thumbs:
 
Wow! Is that a Rhodesian Ridgeback? Or a Mastiff perhaps?
 
Its from that family, a Boerboel. they are south african.
 
mho01 said:
Its from that family, a Boerboel. they are south african.
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Cripes feeding that for 6 months would pay for a 500mm f.4..:lol:
 
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