Lighting for T shirt template.

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Hello, Can someone help me with a low close light solution.

I own a T shirt printing business and I want to take some pictures at home of some T shirts and other clothing items, maybe even have someone modeling them from time to time, the photos will be taken against a plain white wall.

I do not want expensive equipment, as I wont be using it a great deal and it'll be sitting in a storage room most of the time.

I have a Canon 600D, I just need some kind of lighting and maybe a light box or 2?

The end result I want is something like this....



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Thank you.
 
Hang T shirt up several inches (more if you can) from a plain wall and a good distance from a window.

Put camera on tripod. Take picture.

Cut out in Photoshop or have somebody do it for you. Drop on white background.

Ones with people wearing them will be harder, obvs.

Other people will tell you that the Photoshop step is cheating.
 
Simplest cheapest way is to get them shot professionally :)

That aside, you need some continuous lighting, and photoshop, as pure white background is never really achieved, we get 99% but we always need to tweak the finished image.
 
Using photoshop is no big deal, can someone recommend a good continuous lamp?
 
It all depends on how many items you have, personally, I would shoot them flat and show the design off, Abercrombie and Fitch style.
 
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Best quote of the year that "using photoshop is no big deal" :thumbs:

lol what I mean is I'm not too bothered if photoshop is classed as cheating as I'm not trying to win brownie points for taking the best picture without photoshop.

I'm not sure i'll get the look I'm after with just sunlight as there is only 1 possible white wall in my home I can take these photos on.

So I think I'll check out Interfit....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Interfit-lite-500w-Tungsten-INT160/dp/B0024NKJZ2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_5

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PhotoSEL-LS...g-Softboxes/dp/B002I3VCGS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ph_1

Are theys something I should be going for? what difference between a softbox and a umbrella?
 
Please, please please don't get continous lighting. Please see this reply to a similar thread
 
this is all getting rather confusng lol

I've been recommended this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321042623045?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

I'm not looking to spend 100s, arund £100 will do
Look, you need to be sensible. Buy whatever you want, but bear in mind that your business is selling your T shirts. If you're not prepared to invest a reasonable amount of money in the kit you need, and if you're not prepared to invest a reasonable amount of time into the learning process, you will sell a lot less T shirts.
 
Djlee, we shoot 1000's of items of clothing a month, all with continuous lighting, no colour issues, you have control by turning the lights off one bulb at a time, however, in camera is where the control comes from.

We shoot models with flash, but not one of our product shots are flash based lighting.


It's what Scott Kelby teaches in his cook book, so we must be doing something right
 
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Ref you ebay recommendation, your having a laugh right? Why not just use the camera flash :)

As Garry said, your business relies on good images, with your budget and mindset your going to produce, let's say, not very good results.

We see this attitude daily, and its usually the customers that are a flash in the pan, the serious ones get there images done professionally, and if the business can't afford it, it was a bad business plan.

Not saying your not serious. But you need to do it right, and that has to be by spending a few quid on the right gear or the right service.
 
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To get the results that I posted in my first post, do I really need to get them professionally done? or spend £300+? If I need to then so be it.

What I'm asking is what is the minimum amount of equipment I need to get the results I have posted. i'll be simply taking 1 picture of each colour T shirt, then putting different designs on the same T shirt template in photoshop, I wont be taking 100s of different pictures.
 
DJ Lee said:
To get the results that I posted in my first post, do I really need to get them professionally done? or spend £300+? If I need to then so be it.

What I'm asking is what is the minimum amount of equipment I need to get the results I have posted. i'll be simply taking 1 picture of each colour T shirt, then putting different designs on the same T shirt template in photoshop, I wont be taking 100s of different pictures.

Unless you photoshop skills are stunning I think your best best would be a digital rendition of a t-shirt and design, if you intention is not to photograph each individual design for real as a half and half mix of photo of real t-shirt with design photoshopped in is going to look rubbish without a professional standard of editing
 
To get the results that I posted in my first post, do I really need to get them professionally done? or spend £300+? If I need to then so be it.

What I'm asking is what is the minimum amount of equipment I need to get the results I have posted. i'll be simply taking 1 picture of each colour T shirt, then putting different designs on the same T shirt template in photoshop, I wont be taking 100s of different pictures.


I get you, well unless you get this right is tends to look rubbish, trust me we have done this for a large number of businesses, that did what you are going to do then went down the "proper" route.

If your going to go down your route, digital representation, buy stock, or work out a way to get a good enough result to convince your potential customers that your good enough for them to give you some cash.

Point to remember is that there are 1000's of people who are printing T-shirts and you need to stand out from the crowd.
 
MWHCVT said:
Unless you photoshop skills are stunning I think your best best would be a digital rendition of a t-shirt and design, if you intention is not to photograph each individual design for real as a half and half mix of photo of real t-shirt with design photoshopped in is going to look rubbish without a professional standard of editing

This ^
Photography is quicker and easier than photoshop.
 
£18 and you're done. You don't even need a camera.

http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-ph...ed-on-white-with-clipping-path.php?st=12431e0

There are many, many ways to do this. And for anybody to say their way is the "right" way is a little alarming. But pretty much any way you try there's a chance you'll make it work and a chance you won't. You can tilt those odds by the application of skill and experience.

But as somebody commented, you're selling T shirts. Anything you buy that isn't a T shirt is basically dead money in this business.....

What would Café Press do?
 
In my experience, people go about this in one of two very different ways. They either try to everything on the cheap, in which case they either give up and hire a pro or go out of business, or they make a commitment in terms of both money and the learning process and do it properly.

This thread started off as yours did. Someone who knew nothing and thought that all he needed to do was to get a continuous light or two. But he had the right attitude, put a bit of money into it and listened to what he was told. If you read right through the entire thread you'll see that he got there, and pretty quickly too.

His subjects are far more complex than yours, and he had tight time pressures too, so his task was much more difficult than yours.

Another guy rang me up about some training. He sells all sorts of leather goods, a typical hard working small businessman, doing OK but not exactly loaded - in fact, he later told me that at that time money was very tight. Like Stud0488 I much prefer people to pay me to take their shots, but it just wasn't going to happen so I provided his staff with all the training they needed (expensive) and he bought all the lighting I suggested.

I had an email from him a couple of weeks ago, telling me that it was the best decision he had ever made and saying that he is recommending me to everyone - except his competitors:)

Your own needs are very simple, there are lots of ways of photographing clothing but most are complicated, require reasonably good gear and a lot of knowledge.

My suggestion is that you photograph them flat. Forget about coathangers, mannequins etc although maybe you'll want to do the odd one on a model.

Now, for flat subjects, laid out on a table and shot perfectly square on from above (studio stand or tripod with extending arm) you can get away with a simple softbox each side, at an angle that gives diffused light but which will also reveal the texture of the material, your printing and any embroidery. You show the texture by moving the light sources further away, and get the opposite effect by moving them closer.

Continuous lighting will do for that, although personally I would use flash because it is far more versatile and easier, but there you go... And if you want to go the continuous lighting route then you might want to look at the Lencarta QuadLite, with twice the power and half the cost of most others.

For most colours, a mid grey background is a good choice. If it really needs to be white then you are adding to the complications and you will need twice as many lights, because the background is a separate subject. If it has to be white then either shoot them on a perspex sheet that is lit from below, or get someone to cut them out on the computer for you. A lot of people can do this work, personally I use Clipping Paths Asia.

Clipping Paths Asia can also do any blending needed, using stock photos and just showing the variations between the products. Just be aware that although using the computer is fine, it is always easier and cheaper to do it all in camera, once you know what you're doing.
 
Garry, you in danger of over egging the Lencarta angle :) (fully understand why)

The quadlite whilest it is a great light requires a stand, others have added benifits of 15" reflectors and 24" softboxes and stands included :)

I think the OP would be, as suggested, better off with stock, miles easier.
 
Garry, you in danger of over egging the Lencarta angle :) (fully understand why)

The quadlite whilest it is a great light requires a stand, others have added benifits of 15" reflectors and 24" softboxes and stands included :)

I think the OP would be, as suggested, better off with stock, miles easier.
I just suggested that he takes a look at it. Not just because I have a clearly stated vested interest, but also because it came top in a head to head test against other products of the same type by a country mile.
 
I'm not sure I've made myself very clear.

I am not new to selling T shirts, I have successfully done it for over a year now, I sell on the likes of ebay and other similar sites. I already have a number of stock templates from 'Go Media' which works great for targeting the general T shirt buyer or someone looking for a gift for friends/family.

I am now trying to target a different type of buyer, and there is no stock template out there that will suffice.

If I need this done professionally how much is it likely to cost?

I'd much rather buy what I need though so I can take pictures as and when I need them, so if anyone could like me to equipment I would need to get the results I posted I'd be greatful
 
I am thinking of starting a T Shirt printing business, where do I buy the equipment, how much does the stock cost and how much profit can I make? Where is the best place to sell? What colour shirts sell best and what are the most popular sizes?

I am sure there is a quick and cheap way and a more expensive and possibly better long term investment that I could make. I bet it took you time to learn it all as well as some money.

The question is which approach to the photography do you want to make?
 
If your thinking about starting a t shirt business then I suggest you find out about all the different printing methods, and find the one that would suit you best.
 
Yep. Always best to iron the t shirts first. Good point ;o)
 
If I need this done professionally how much is it likely to cost?

Sorry, I didn't have time to log in on Christmas day to be sarcastic.

Ballpark would be £600 - £1,500 depending on lots of things. To do it yourself, figure 2 - 3 times that for kit and instruction.

Other people would probably do it for less. Drop me a PM if you're serious and those numbers don't scare you.
 
I know what I would do from my very limited experience of studio equipment circa 15hrs

I'd buy the small lastolite hi-lite, and 2 flash heads one I think would be enough to illuminate the hi-lite and the second I'd buy a reasonable sized soft box then you need light stands and some radio triggers all told the would cost around £650 from WEX
 
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I know what I would do from my very limited experience of studio equipment circa 15hrs

I'd buy the small lastolite hi-lite, and 2 flash heads one I think would be enough to illuminate the hi-lite and the second I'd buy a reasonable sized soft box then you need light stands and some radio triggers all told the would cost around £650 from WEX

Matt, it really isn't that simple.
 
Matt, it really isn't that simple.

Oh I know there's more to it Garry :thumbs: hence the \/

I know what I would do from my very limited experience of studio equipment circa 15hrs

Anything I said on this subject needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt :thumbs: having sat thought your talk at TPCon2012 with interest however I really would be interested on what equipment and training you'd recommend for the OP

:thumbs:

Matt
 
Oh I know there's more to it Garry :thumbs: hence the \/



Anything I said on this subject needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt :thumbs: having sat thought your talk at TPCon2012 with interest however I really would be interested on what equipment and training you'd recommend for the OP

:thumbs:

Matt
Today I'm on a fashion shoot with 2 models and a MUA in the middle of a field in the middle of nowhere, hoping that the rain stops...

Tomorrow, same thing, but with 3 models in a nice warm studio. I'll try to answer your question when it's all done.
 
Garry Edwards said:
Today I'm on a fashion shoot with 2 models and a MUA in the middle of a field in the middle of nowhere, hoping that the rain stops...

Tomorrow, same thing, but with 3 models in a nice warm studio. I'll try to answer your question when it's all done.

Hope the rain stops for you :thumbs: and I look forward to you response :thumbs:
 
I'm not sure I've made myself very clear.

I am not new to selling T shirts, I have successfully done it for over a year now, I sell on the likes of ebay and other similar sites. I already have a number of stock templates from 'Go Media' which works great for targeting the general T shirt buyer or someone looking for a gift for friends/family.

I am now trying to target a different type of buyer, and there is no stock template out there that will suffice.

If I need this done professionally how much is it likely to cost?

I'd much rather buy what I need though so I can take pictures as and when I need them, so if anyone could like me to equipment I would need to get the results I posted I'd be greatful

Member discount £8.99 per garment :)
 
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