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A good interview with Joe Cornish from yesterday. It's on Paul Reiffer's channel, who does Capture One tutorials, but Capture One isn't mentioned in the interview.

There is, maybe obviously, a bit of a landscape and photography being about beauty bias, but I felt it was a more interesting interview with him than some I've heard. It's an hour and fifteen minutes

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNK3vTiPDSI&t=7s
 
The trouble with 'scenery' photographs is they can so easily become tedious, and there can be a fine line to tread between being over-general and over-extractive. And let's not forget that Cornish is commercial - selling images is his business, so he will tend to gravitate towards the scenic and 'pretty' because that's what sells the most. Obviously he is a competent photographer, but I'm a bit vague about what he is actually trying to say ...
 
In his photographs ...
Did you watch the video? Because he does discuss what is behind his photography, it was one the reasons I posted the link.

Having said that, I think it's difficult to maybe read much into his photographs, because of the commercial influence on many/most of them, which means he is probably working to a brief a lot of the time, or at least a specific market. That in itself doesn't mean he can't produce meaningful photographs (whatever that means) but it must have a strong influence on what he does.
 
Did you watch the video?
I sampled it at various points but don't have enough interest to sit right through it, whereas I'm quite likely to with let's say one of the M Parr sofa sessions ...

Yes, from the work I see, he's working for a marketplace.

Curiously, being technically competent doesn't automatically mean that you have something to say, any more than having something to say makes you competent ...
 
I sampled it at various points but don't have enough interest to sit right through it, whereas I'm quite likely to with let's say one of the M Parr sofa sessions ...

Yes, from the work I see, he's working for a marketplace.

Curiously, being technically competent doesn't automatically mean that you have something to say, any more than having something to say makes you competent ...

I usually find Joe Cornish has something interesting to say, even if I'm not a fan of his photographs, but he touched on things in this interview I hadn't heard before. But there are only so many hours in the day to watch youtube videos, so we all have to be selective.

As an aside, I'm not sure why it's "curiously" rather than "obviously" or "self evidently". I think of curiously suggesting something unexpected.
 
I chose 'curiously' as a way of hinting that not everyone gets around to contemplating such things, judging by the work they make available ...
 
The trouble with 'scenery' photographs is they can so easily become tedious, and there can be a fine line to tread between being over-general and over-extractive. And let's not forget that Cornish is commercial - selling images is his business, so he will tend to gravitate towards the scenic and 'pretty' because that's what sells the most. Obviously he is a competent photographer, but I'm a bit vague about what he is actually trying to say ...

Why does his pictures "need" to "say" anything.

What's wrong with just nice attractive pictures.
 
I chose 'curiously' as a way of hinting that not everyone gets around to contemplating such things, judging by the work they make available ...
As generalisation this may well be true, and it's something Joe Cornish raises during his interview.

As an aside, and maybe curiously, the only photographer he recommended during his talk was Simon Norfolk.
 
I'm not a fan of Joe Cornish's type of landscape photography (or of landscape photography in general) but I enjoyed the video and found what he had to say interesting. I think it would be of interest to any photographer regardless of their preferred subject matter.
 
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I'm not a fan of Joe Cornish's type of landscape photography (or of landscape photography in general) but I enjoyed the video and found what he had to say interesting. I think it would be of interest to any photographer regardless of their preferred subject matter.


Only those photographers with a completely closed mind would find this not worth watching. (If they had the time of course)
 
A good interview with Joe Cornish from yesterday. It's on Paul Reiffer's channel, who does Capture One tutorials, but Capture One isn't mentioned in the interview.

There is, maybe obviously, a bit of a landscape and photography being about beauty bias, but I felt it was a more interesting interview with him than some I've heard. It's an hour and fifteen minutes

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNK3vTiPDSI&t=7s
Thanks, enjoyed that. Love Joe's work and having met him a few times he is genuinely nice person, always finds time to engage with other photographers.
 
I met another landscape photographer yesterday, on the way down from a well-known viewpoint which I mentioned above. It was the one where Joe Cornish had taken a photograph and I didn't even recognise it as being in Wales.....

As an aside I suggested he looked for Cornish's tripod holes and he went "Who?" It turned out he'd never even heard of JC which I found incredible. I had to explain that he was one of Britain's best known landscapers; the names he "followed" were those with you tube vlogs.

What a strange world we live in.

I've met Joe as well; he does appear to be a really nice guy but he has a very thin skin.....
 
...the names he "followed" were those with you tube vlogs.
This seems to be a trend across many photo genres. If they're not on social they are unknown.

The number of photographers who have no knowledge of photographers from the (not even distant) past astonishes me. And it isn't just the young photographers either. Some don't even want to know about photography from the past as they think it's irrelevant to their photography, prefering to be 'inspired' by the current practitioners (on social).
 
This seems to be a trend across many photo genres. If they're not on social they are unknown.

The number of photographers who have no knowledge of photographers from the (not even distant) past astonishes me. And it isn't just the young photographers either. Some don't even want to know about photography from the past as they think it's irrelevant to their photography, prefering to be 'inspired' by the current practitioners (on social).

Sadly with photography these days it is far too common. People equate likes; followers and subscribers to being a good photographer and it is just not the case.

It's not uncommon, sadly, for people to not know who Joe is. From what I remember he doesn't have specific social accounts rather they are for his gallery.

David Ward is another who if you mention his name people simply respond...who? An exceptionally talented photographer who looks deeper into scene than the rest of us.

I feel glad that I started when I did as it's allowed me to learn from these excellent photographers. And whilst names are being said how about some votes for Galen Rowell who had a huge influence on Joe.
 
Sadly with photography these days it is far too common. People equate likes; followers and subscribers to being a good photographer and it is just not the case.

It's not uncommon, sadly, for people to not know who Joe is. From what I remember he doesn't have specific social accounts rather they are for his gallery.

David Ward is another who if you mention his name people simply respond...who? An exceptionally talented photographer who looks deeper into scene than the rest of us.

I feel glad that I started when I did as it's allowed me to learn from these excellent photographers. And whilst names are being said how about some votes for Galen Rowell who had a huge influence on Joe.

I rate those three names you mention very highly - all of them.
 
I met another landscape photographer yesterday, on the way down from a well-known viewpoint which I mentioned above. It was the one where Joe Cornish had taken a photograph and I didn't even recognise it as being in Wales.....

As an aside I suggested he looked for Cornish's tripod holes and he went "Who?" It turned out he'd never even heard of JC which I found incredible. I had to explain that he was one of Britain's best known landscapers; the names he "followed" were those with you tube vlogs.

What a strange world we live in.

I've met Joe as well; he does appear to be a really nice guy but he has a very thin skin.....
Curious Jerry, what was the location?
 
This seems to be a trend across many photo genres. If they're not on social they are unknown.

The number of photographers who have no knowledge of photographers from the (not even distant) past astonishes me. And it isn't just the young photographers either. Some don't even want to know about photography from the past as they think it's irrelevant to their photography, prefering to be 'inspired' by the current practitioners (on social).
Two interesting points you have.
I grew up in a household with photography all around but hadn't heard of Joe Cornish. I had however heard of Ansel Adams and had seen his work before the days of the internet.
And I think that's the point. Pre-2000, for a photographer to be known, they had to be published, either in magazines or books (or had exhibitions).
These days "everyone's a photographer" (I hate the phrase) and because of the increasing number of photos being taken and the different ways of getting people to see them, it's easy for those who don't use the internet to disappear below the constant hum of freshly uploaded content.
Even the old fashioned media outlets (newspaper, radio and TV) have realised that a lot of people won't travel far beyond their favourite social media platform, so you have to take the content to the user. Hence why all the papers (even the local ones) have a social media presence.
There are so many more users on the main social media platforms that all it takes is a couple of reasonably interesting photos to get some interest on social media and then that person starts building a reputation.

As for being "inspired" as you put it.. you might pull out a Joe Cornish book and get inspired to go shoot in the Welsh hills. Other people are just doing the equivalent, they are seeing shots from a thousand different photographers via Instagram (for example) and they might see 5 photos of the Welsh hills and think, "I'd like to go shoot there".
I will often see a photograph on Instagram of a location, not even a well composed shot, but just a phone shot of a bit of coast or some hills that look interesting and it'll get me interested enough to check it out.
Just because someone is inspired by social media or trends doesn't mean that they are ignorant of the past.
Also though they might not realise it, they may be being influenced by someone else who was influenced by one of these older well established photographers like Joe Cornish.
There were photography trends well before the internet. Anyone remember soft focus filters for portraits in the 80s ?

People will always be inspired by the images they see, whether it's on TV, movies, books, social media. But you can't possibly follow or know every single photographer of note in your favoured genre.

The interview with Joe Cornish is quite interesting and he does talk about how things have changed, film vs digital and prints and social media, etc.
But is of the old school, he is published, he gets commissioned and has his own gallery and exhibitions.
 
I grew up in a household with photography all around but hadn't heard of Joe Cornish. I had however heard of Ansel Adams and had seen his work before the days of the internet.
And I think that's the point. Pre-2000, for a photographer to be known, they had to be published, either in magazines or books (or had exhibitions).
To me this points up something which persists to this day. Many photographers only know of photographers within their 'bubble'. In the days of magazine many hobbyists only knew of those who appeared in the magazines they read. Others were familiar with those whose work appeared in books or galleries. And so on.

Today, I think, things are becoming even more compartmentalised with people identifying as landscape, street, portrait photographers etc. and paying little attention to the genres they don't operate within.

I get the impression that people who are interested in exploring all genres of photography are thin on the ground.

My journey into photography started with Amateur Photographer and Practical Photography way back in 1976. Somewhere along the way I came to realise that there was more to photography than the pictures which won the mags' competitions or illustrated their articles. I discovered the 'greats' such as Adams, Cartier-Bresson, Kertesz et al. Then I dug deeper and read Sontag and Sarkowski and broadened my horizons further.

These days I check out all sorts of work from the populist Youtubers I've only heard of via TP through the daily journalism of The Guardian, 'art photography' sites like Lensculture and many many more. I don't like or 'get' everything I see, but seeing it is always good. The internet opens up so much to be discovered, yet most people seem never to venture outside their 'safe place'. Which I find a rather sad.
 
I have been to a Joe Cornish lecture and thoroughly enjoyed it. The first of the books shown in the video "Joe Cornish - A Photographer at Work", I received yesterday as part of a prize in a competition but have not yet had time to look at it.

Dave
 
Thanks for this link. I've not watched anything photography related for some time so it was good to listen to something not focused on the latest tech. Blown away by the photo of the iceberg and mountains, never seen that before and can only aspire to shooting one thing like that ever! Joe comes across as thoughtful and passionate person and I found it quite inspiring with lots to think about after.
 
Yes, I think so.

Many landscape photographers go to the same places that all the others go to!

Personally, I'm lucky that I seem to have most of France to myself! Rarely do I come across any other photographers. The downside to that is the networking isn't there like in the UK.
 
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