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I've been buying the Photography 20GB plan on Amazon on Black Friday Sales, you were be able to stack them on top of one another. But now Amazon has stopped selling them. So now I've bought Neo at only 89.10. I've been using it on previous photos to see if I can get the same result before buying it. I've managed it and on some photos Neo has done a better job than Lightroom. The only niggle I have with Neo is that it doesn't stack photos as well as Photoshop with moving branches, saying that I was only experimenting with stacking so won't do it as much now.
 
Be interested to hear in a few months time how you find it.
I uninstalled it quite quickly, maybe I didn't give it chance.

Affinity does all I need, and I use all three, Photo, Designer and Publisher.
 
I've been using Neo for a few years now, I first purchased a yearly license, just incase I didn't get on with it, a few months I purchased a lifetime license, it's the only photo program i use now, does everything I need it to.
 
Only you can know what is right for you but Neo would not come close to meeting my photography needs for which LR/PS has served me well for many years. I have 37,000 images in my immediate catalogue and can thus locate images in fractions of a second. I think the 20Gb annual plan is very good value. I did once test Affinity but it did not match up to Adobe.

Dave
 
Dave Canon said:
Only you can know what is right for you but Neo would not come close to meeting my photography needs for which LR/PS has served me well for many years. I have 37,000 images in my immediate catalogue and can thus locate images in fractions of a second. I think the 20Gb annual plan is very good value. I did once test Affinity but it did not match up to Adobe.

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Same for me. I've been using Photoshop since at least ver. 3.0, more than 30 years. "It does what I need" may be enough for others, but I keep trying to expand my boundaries, and other editors haven't kept up. I have never tried Neo, but I have tried most of the others. I have the Affinity suite and GIMP installed, but I only use them for experimentation. It helps that I was an Adobe subscriber before the price hike earlier this year, so I still pay $120 annually for the Photography 20 GB plan, which I consider an incredible bargain. Signing up today costs twice that much, and I'm sure that eventually my cost will increase as well, but until I'm ready to quit doing this entirely, I will stay with Photoshop/ACR/Bridge.
 
It's what works for you.
I had a standalone paid copy of Photoshop years ago and did go to the subscription model after a while, mainly due to upgrades in camera bodies leading to RAW file issues.
However I decided to quit a few years back and I moved to DXO Photolab 5 and Affinity Photos. I load into PL 5 for basic adjustments and export to Affinity to finish and save.
It does all I need - I don't need AI or gimmicks.
 
What I don't like is that I have to edit photos again. Might be a way round it, but never mind.
I don't like that it takes ages to load the photo.
Stacking photos with moving branches doesn't work as well as Photoshop.
Cannot get the same result in HDR on a few photos.
Wish there were different presets for exporting photos.
Software seems to take longer to load than Lightroom.
Cannot delete multiple photos at once. I can mark them as delete and that's it. Seems that you have to delete photos one at a time:mad:
There should be a preset to change Luminar Camera Profile to Adobe Standard

I'm sure I can find more
 
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I’ve used Photoshop for quite a few years. I tried Affinity but just couldn’t get on with it so went back to Photoshop. I’m on the 20GB plan.

As has been said, whatever works for and gives the results you want.
 
If I start having to pay full price, as the OP seems to suggest I might, then I'll have to have a rethink. I can justify the cost for now but I don't really use many of the facilities it provides. TBH, if I hadn't lost my copy when I upgraded and I hadn't needed the lens adjustment stuff from later years, I'd probably still be using LR6 and have saved myself a lot of money.

One never know what will happen. I had NordVPN on renewal but it came up as £165 for one year, I waited and they sent me an offer of two years for a little over £70. Sky were the same, with their 'please don't leave us' deals, however their service was so bad I doubt I'd have continued if they'd paid me.
 
GetBusyLiving said:
If I start having to pay full price, as the OP seems to suggest I might, then I'll have to have a rethink. I can justify the cost for now but I don't really use many of the facilities it provides. TBH, if I hadn't lost my copy when I upgraded and I hadn't needed the lens adjustment stuff from later years, I'd probably still be using LR6 and have saved myself a lot of money.

One never know what will happen. I had NordVPN on renewal but it came up as £165 for one year, I waited and they sent me an offer of two years for a little over £70. Sky were the same, with their 'please don't leave us' deals, however their service was so bad I doubt I'd have continued if they'd paid me.
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You cannot buy the Amazon discount bundles any more, so when any credit you have banked is used up you will need to pay Adobe directly again - the cheapest option is then to switch to paying annually (the full annual price is unchanged) or monthly (which has increased significantly). If you stop your subscription you will not be able to restart the 20Gb LR + PS plan in the future , as it is only available to existing users.
 
I found that if I switched to annual fee for the Photography 20GB Plan, it would be around £115 (33% discount)

I paid £89 for Neo with an 80% discount (70% from their website, together with a 10% discount from a youtuber [there's a few who are doing it]). I bought Neo outright, and there won't be an annual fee. I had to switch because money is tight for me because I can't get a job, and I needed something that costs less.
 
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Does Neo have a trial package, I can't see one? My LR runs out in February and they'll want £119 a year to keep going.

Also, does Neo alter the RAW file or does it work like LR?
 
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GetBusyLiving said:
Does Neo have a trial package, I can't see one? My LR runs out in February and they'll want £119 a year to keep going.

Also, does Neo alter the RAW file or does it work like LR?
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Yep there's a trial
https://skylum.com/luminar-trial
There's different camera profiles. Neo has it's own and is default. No idea how to change it to Adobe Standard as default
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I've decided I'm going to ask for a refund. Neo isn't for me as it doesn't do everything that Photoshop and Lightroom can do. Yes Neo is a good program but I prefer Adobe for now.
 
Dael_Pix said:
I found that if I switched to annual fee for the Photography 20GB Plan, it would be around £115 (33% discount)
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Can you please tell me where you got this annual deal, as I've checked and its saying over £240.
 
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Can you please tell me where you got this annual deal, as I've checked and its saying over £240.
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account.adobe.com > Manage Plan

Mine doesn't save more than if I pay monthly which is stupid.
£9.66 per month (£115.92 a year) or £119.09 as below

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You cannot buy the Amazon discount bundles any more, so when any credit you have banked is used up you will need to pay Adobe directly again - the cheapest option is then to switch to paying annually (the full annual price is unchanged) or monthly (which has increased significantly). If you stop your subscription you will not be able to restart the 20Gb LR + PS
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You are correct, but its early days yet regarding these new subscription prices, I'm guessing once all of the people who took advantage of the Amazon yearly subscription offers, when these run out they may not renew, and move to other platforms like Affinity, Onone etc, so it will be interesting to see if Adobe drop the prices again, or at least have a yearly offer either directly or through Amazon again. After all some people purchased these offers for years in advance, mine doesn't run out till 2027, I only wish I would of purchased another couple of years when I had the chance.
 
I've tried the Neo trial and it looks promising for what I want it for. If Adobe don't come along with a price incentive then I might well move to this one. My subscription runs out next February so they haven't got long.
 
GetBusyLiving said:
Does Neo have a trial package, I can't see one? My LR runs out in February and they'll want £119 a year to keep going.

Also, does Neo alter the RAW file or does it work like LR?
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No it doesn't, once you've processed the Raw file, you export the finished image, I usually select a different folder that the Raw file is located.
 
It's up to you and you alone what to use! As someone who has never touched Photoshop on PC and only used Photoworks and Lightroom mobile, I can understand it perfectly, but then again, my editings are not that complicated and I don't do full-time photography, it's just a hobby to me. I imagine that being an underwhelming set for those that need more sophisticated tools, but the question is whether your set suits you. If it does, great and more power to you.
 
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That says for new subscribers only, which I personally think is bad, the sort of crap the likes of Sky used to do. Look after new customers and forget long standing subscribers, its ridiculous.
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It's the standard 'introductory discount' - insurance companies are (or were) another sector that uses them a lot, in the hope people will simply auto renew at the increased price.
 
I've just downloaded Neo on the 7 day trial and I actually like it, some of the AI tools are very impressive.

Is it always so slow in creating previews though?
I could see myself being able to move to this from Lightroom, possibly, as they keep increasing the subscription costs, but the preview slowness bugs me a little. :)
 
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I could see myself being able to move to this from Lightroom, possibly, as they keep increasing the subscription costs, but the preview slowness bugs me a little. :)
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There has just been the single increase in price for the Lightroom photography plan since it started in 2013 - It stayed the same for over 10 years, and it you switch to Annual payments, it is still unchanged.
The subscription model may not suit everyone, but Adobe cannot reasonably be accused of using it to force loyal customers into continued price hikes.
 
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There has just been the single increase in price for the Lightroom photography plan since it started in 2013 - It stayed the same for over 10 years, and it you switch to Annual payments, it is still unchanged.
The subscription model may not suit everyone, but Adobe cannot reasonably be accused of using it to force loyal customers into continued price hikes.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Lightroom, the masking updates in the last few years have been amazing.
I've just come to the end of a 1 year student all apps plan, as my son was in 6th form studying for his A-levels, so that ends next month and I don't want to continue with that plan at £32 per month.

I may just take the Lightroom plan for now, as it's so good I rarely have to go to Photoshop, and I still have Affinity Photo if needed.

But some of the AI tools in Neo are quite impressive. :)
 
Hanley said:
I've just downloaded Neo on the 7 day trial and I actually like it, some of the AI tools are very impressive.

Is it always so slow in creating previews though?
I could see myself being able to move to this from Lightroom, possibly, as they keep increasing the subscription costs, but the preview slowness bugs me a little. :)
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I find some of the Ai features takes a while to create the previews, like sharpening etc, apart from that, everything else is pretty instant, although after the last update, I did find updating my memory helped a lot
 
TG. said:
That says for new subscribers only, which I personally think is bad, the sort of crap the likes of Sky used to do. Look after new customers and forget long standing subscribers, its ridiculous.
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I thought it was closed to new subscribers?
 
I stopped using Adobe a few years ago , am now on DXO photolab and Affinity photo , at the time I found that Affinity photo was better for macro image stacking , for me anyway
It didn’t seem worth paying the monthly subscription just for lightroom
I do think that Adobe even now is reasonable value though, I have probably spent the same amount updating DXO a couple of times
 
Nikon photographer said:
I find some of the Ai features takes a while to create the previews, like sharpening etc, apart from that, everything else is pretty instant, although after the last update, I did find updating my memory helped a lot
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Sadly it was slow for me. I have 32Gigs of RAM. Maybe having software and photos on an external didn't help but I didn't have enough storage on my other 3 in PC case.

Listened toa podcast on how to speed Luminar up and they mentioned upgrading to 32RAM was enough.

I have Lightroom and the photos on the same external and don't have any problems with speed.
 
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