Is there a better photography/editing monitor than the Mateview right now for the money?

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28.2"
It's 10bit Colour
98% DCI-P3
IPS
4k at 3:2 ratio (same ratio as camera sensor) Sounds strange but it's just more space, not ideal for movies but it's for work.
USB-C - which charges my MBP and transfer data with 1 cable.
HDR400 certified
60hz - don't care, won't be gaming on it.

Sure, it doesn't have local dimming but it's 1/3rd of the price of the Apple Studio Display, almost 1/4 with the cash back. I want to get an external monitor for around 27" right now, is there a better one out there for £400 ?
 
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It's certainly better than the Apple one which only got 86% Adobe RGB.

 
Do you have any recommendations? I am still researching.

I'm a big Eizo fan.

This looks decent as well - with a more modest price tag

ViewSonic VP2785-4K 27-inch 4K Ultra HD Professional Monitor with 99% Adobe RGB, Delta E<2, Hardware Colour Calibration, 2x HDMI, Display Port, USB-C for Graphic Design, Photo & Video Editing https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0748DGHSG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_E0862Q961GKP43DJJ123
 
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I'm a big Eizo fan.

This looks decent as well - with a more modest price tag

ViewSonic VP2785-4K 27-inch 4K Ultra HD Professional Monitor with 99% Adobe RGB, Delta E<2, Hardware Colour Calibration, 2x HDMI, Display Port, USB-C for Graphic Design, Photo & Video Editing https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0748DGHSG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_E0862Q961GKP43DJJ123
Thanks, as I thought, it's in the £700 range, which is quite a jump from £400.

Hmmm.
 
hmmm. I'd like to see confirmation of that in case he didn't do calibration properly. 98% DCI is usually close to same in Adobe, so one of them is telling porkies.... The bigger issue that I see from the review is panel uniformity and that would really p*** me off it this still holds true at at normal brightness. Nobody in their sane mind edits at 100% brightness or does all tests like this reviewer appears to be. So these are the questions to be answered.
Finally warranty. Anything less than 3 years and ideally 5 is essentially a dangerous game.
 
At this price point that's acceptable but not remarkable.

I'd rather lose the 4k and gain the another 10% coverage of Adobe 1998

I'm still vary happy with my Gigabyte M27Q - 1440P @ 97.3% Adobe RGB. Presently about £330 on Amazon.

The BGR pixel order is not an issue, and this is the best monitor I've used anywhere so far. If 4K were important then the Mate unit sounds good, but I don't want that resolution.
 
I'm still vary happy with my Gigabyte M27Q - 1440P @ 97.3% Adobe RGB. Presently about £330 on Amazon.

The BGR pixel order is not an issue, and this is the best monitor I've used anywhere so far. If 4K were important then the Mate unit sounds good, but I don't want that resolution.

You sure?

This one? https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M27Q#kf

It says it's an 8bit panel, 92% DCI-P3, this can do 97.3% Adobe RGB?
 
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I was between the Mateview and the Philips 279P, I liked the look of the Mateview, but ended up going for the Philips as it has better connectivity and is more adjustable.
 
24hrs now with the Mateview

Pros

- Great screen, 4k is a LOT of pixels !!!!! How tall it is vertically is very useful for what i need it to do. Good calibrated colours out of the box.
- Comes with a USB-C data/charging cable and Display to Mini Display port cable
- I like the USB-C 1 cable charging, connecting to the Macbook
- Very sleek design, its not that heavy either, love how far to the edge it goes to. Also like how it doesn't say the brand of the monitor on the front. It's a small thing but I find them distracting.
- Built in speaker is good enough, useful to have built in speaker in a pinch
- Good selection of connections, including wireless projection from my Huawei phone (its my spare). Not applicable to a majority of people i expect.
- The screen adjustment, up/down is very smooth and nice. Almost, i mean almost Apple esq but not quite. Better than the BenQ I have at work.


Cons

- No Vesa mount
- No Swivel, so have to turn the whole monitor at the base
- Touchbar takes some getting used to.

Not for everyone, especially if you want a wide screen but I'd say it suits my what i want it for, currently a steal for £350 IMO.
 
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@ Raymond Lin - You can very easily rectify the Swivel problem by getting yourself a Swivel Base - there are all sorts of base swivels that you could simply set the monitor on Or adopt the base by adding a small piece of Plywood etc and attaching the base of the monitor to it ..

Have a look at some of these Swivel Bases


Coho - Blue
 
@ Raymond Lin - You can very easily rectify the Swivel problem by getting yourself a Swivel Base - there are all sorts of base swivels that you could simply set the monitor on Or adopt the base by adding a small piece of Plywood etc and attaching the base of the monitor to it ..

Have a look at some of these Swivel Bases


Coho - Blue

Oh cool, like a lazy Susan.

Honestly though, not really a problem because once its in position it doesn't get moved around anyway.
 
24hrs now with the Mateview

Pros

- Great screen, 4k is a LOT of pixels !!!!! How tall it is vertically is very useful for what i need it to do. Good calibrated colours out of the box.
- Comes with a USB-C data/charging cable and Display to Mini Display port cable
- I like the USB-C 1 cable charging, connecting to the Macbook
- Very sleek design, its not that heavy either, love how far to the edge it goes to. Also like how it doesn't say the brand of the monitor on the front. It's a small thing but I find them distracting.
- Built in speaker is good enough, useful to have built in speaker in a pinch
- Good selection of connections, including wireless projection from my Huawei phone (its my spare). Not applicable to a majority of people i expect.
- The screen adjustment, up/down is very smooth and nice. Almost, i mean almost Apple esq but not quite. Better than the BenQ I have at work.


Cons

- No Vesa mount
- No Swivel, so have to turn the whole monitor at the base
- Touchbar takes some getting used to.

Not for everyone, especially if you want a wide screen but I'd say it suits my what i want it for, currently a steal for £350 IMO.
So what is the uniformity like and how much % Adobe RGB?
 
This is a very interesting thread. There is (understandably) a lot of talk here about Adobe RGB coverage. But it seems to me this may be less important for some non-professional or less-advanced amateur photographers on here. My 2014 MacBook Pro display is 2880x1800, so if I want an external display to compensate for the horrible staingate defects on my screen, I think anything less than a 4K screen would not be sensible. But as someone who doesn't use Raw (or even digital cameras, really), and who gets scans to JPEG rather than TIFF, it seems to me that sRGB should be just fine. Most of any stuff of mine that gets seen by anyone else is via the web, anyway. I did notice recently that my Capture One Pro was set up with ARGB, but I think (hope) I've fixed that.

So, two questions...

a) Am I missing something here (it wouldn't surprise me), and

b) what would be a good quality, affordable sRGB 4K screen (preferably even more affordable than the ones earlier in this thread)?

Thanks
 
This is a very interesting thread. There is (understandably) a lot of talk here about Adobe RGB coverage. But it seems to me this may be less important for some non-professional or less-advanced amateur photographers on here. My 2014 MacBook Pro display is 2880x1800, so if I want an external display to compensate for the horrible staingate defects on my screen, I think anything less than a 4K screen would not be sensible. But as someone who doesn't use Raw (or even digital cameras, really), and who gets scans to JPEG rather than TIFF, it seems to me that sRGB should be just fine. Most of any stuff of mine that gets seen by anyone else is via the web, anyway. I did notice recently that my Capture One Pro was set up with ARGB, but I think (hope) I've fixed that.

So, two questions...

a) Am I missing something here (it wouldn't surprise me), and

b) what would be a good quality, affordable sRGB 4K screen (preferably even more affordable than the ones earlier in this thread)?

Thanks
I recently upgraded my old Apple Cinema Display to a much newer (and mint) Thunderbolt Display. I sold my old one to Cash Converters for £175 and paid £275 for the replacement, so the cost of change was a mere £100.

One of the best IT-related things I've ever done, as - in addition to being a great quality monitor in it's own right - you get all the native Apple loveliness as well. I have a new M1 MBP about to arrive and all it needs is a Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter (which I was given anyway) to connect it up.
 
Just for information, I have a Mateview for my mini. Might be stating the obvious but it is not the same as the 5K iMac screen. You can definitely see the difference between the two. Notably the brightness/contrast/punchiness in the latter. The stuff on the edge of the screen i.e. icons etc, is noticeably dimmer. I run at native 4K so things look a tiny bit bigger but sharpness is not an issue.
 
It's interesting to see a budget monitor that's got a wider colour space which gives it an appeal for photographers.
Hopefully it turns out fine for early adopters.
I admit I would be tempted but I'm looking for a 32 inch monitor... unfortunately my budget up to £750 doesn't run to full Adobe RGB at that size, so thinking about a Benq PD3200 or Asus
 
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