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Anyone any experience of owning one of these?

Doing a bit of research on new boilers & after speaking to someone in the trade, they mentioned Intergas. :thinking:
Economical, less moving parts etc. they seem to be a good boiler.

Made in Germany & the Netherlands I believe & although introduced in the UK in recent years, folk in Holland have had them for many years.
(@dejongj ?)
 
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Can't say I've ever heard of them. My houses always had City heating. The hot water came from a central depot in the area, no need for a local boiler. My parents have I think a valiant.

From what I can see it is just a combi boiler. I've had our heating system ripped out about 16 years ago and got a big floor standing Worcester Bosch Highflow 400 installed. No separate water tanks or anything. No flame. Just electronic on demand starting gas boiler.
 
Yep, it's a combi/condensing boiler.
I've had a Vaillant in the past (previous property) & found it excellent.

Need one around the 30kw.

Cheers JP

dejongj said:
Can't say I've ever heard of them.
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Edit. From their site; http://www.intergasheating.co.uk/consumer/about-intergas-heating/

Then the company was known as Machinefabriek van de Wetering and it specialised in manufacturing wooden washtubs and laundry wringers. With the discovery of natural gas in the Northern part of the Netherlands, the company moved to Coevorden in 1961 and, in the mid-sixties, produced its first heating products.
 
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They are all between 24 and 35kw. They are all able to heat a 3/4 bed house. The most important thing to check is hot water output. They will vary between 10 & 19ltrs a minute.
 
I'd recommend Worcester bosch or vaillant boilers.
 
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Sorry it was a generalisation.... But the hot water output is still the thing to look out for.
 
OldCarlos said:
Intergas do a 40kw & Baxi have an eco 40kw.

The Baxi we have now is a 30kw & about 13+ yrs old so just doing some research atm.



Don't want to spend on a WB.
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From what I see, there's not a massive difference in price between Intergas and WB. I sell boilers and Worcester bosch and vaillant are the best in my opinion.
 
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When we went combination boiler route it wasn't that common in the UK. As such we decided on a brand that had local support and good aftercare. Hence we ended up with wb. Unfortunately it had issues in the beginning and wb themselves came out replaced the whole boiler and refitted it.

In the Netherlands I probably wouldn't go for Worcester Boscastle but a more prominent local one. The appliance is too important.

We also choose to go for the largest most powerful model in the range. Ours is a five bedroom large detached. And when all bathrooms are going you really want the highest throughput available. Well that was our reasoning anyway. I would always go for one up in the range than what they suggest is sufficient.
 
We had an Ideal, it wasn't, now have a Worcester and it works reliably.

Never heard of Intergas, possibly better to stick with one that has a decent track record
 
dejongj said:
When we went combination boiler route it wasn't that common in the UK. As such we decided on a brand that had local support and good aftercare. Hence we ended up with wb. Unfortunately it had issues in the beginning and wb themselves came out replaced the whole boiler and refitted it.

In the Netherlands I probably wouldn't go for Worcester Boscastle but a more prominent local one. The appliance is too important.

We also choose to go for the largest most powerful model in the range. Ours is a five bedroom large detached. And when all bathrooms are going you really want the highest throughput available. Well that was our reasoning anyway. I would always go for one up in the range than what they suggest is sufficient.
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Only if the cold water pressure is sufficient. No point otherwise as you'd be wasting your money.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Only if the cold water pressure is sufficient. No point otherwise as you'd be wasting your money.
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Fair enough but the online things are normally by the size of house not by pressure.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Only if the cold water pressure is sufficient. No point otherwise as you'd be wasting your money.
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Our water pressure isn't brilliant, although adequate, so we don't need overkill on the Litrs per minute. We have 16 rads which the present Baxi 30 HE copes fine with.

Robert, I've also been told that gas pressure can possibly be an issue if going for a larger rated KW boiler?
Also as a very rough estimate, on top of boiler price, what can I expect for labour charges etc for fitting? (a full day+ ? )

Cheers.
 
Intergas have been around for a few years. I have never installed one, but I have worked on a few. They tend to be a 'landlords' boiler. They are not the most aesthetic design with an awful plastic cover that will sometimes stay in place.

More important when deciding on the output of your combination is not the pressure, but the flow rate is you can have a 30kw combination capable of delivering 15ltrs/ minute of hot water, if you only have 12ltrs/ minute going into the unit then you can be as sure as night follows day you ain't going to get more than 12ltrs out of it.
 
mex said:
I have never installed one........
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Nigel, as a very rough estimate/ball park figure, on top of boiler price, what can I expect for labour charges etc for fitting a replacement boiler?

I'm hoping to have one for less than £1500 all in?
 
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Also make sure you get a decent manufacturers warranty as well. On a lot of boilers this will be 7 years now.
 
OldCarlos said:
Nigel, as a very rough estimate/ball park figure, on top of boiler price, what can I expect for labour charges etc for fitting a replacement boiler?

I'm hoping to have one for less than £1500 all in?
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The plumber I use charges £1700 +vat for installation of a WB boiler and disposal of the old one.
 
gerry s said:
Also make sure you get a decent manufacturers warranty as well. On a lot of boilers this will be 7 years now.
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Yep, seen that Gez. (y)

KitsuneAndy said:
The plumber I use charges £1700 +vat for installation of a WB boiler and disposal of the old one.
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Half price to British Gas then :LOL:
Hoping for less than that though tbh. ;)
 
Valiants seem to be falling by the wayside since they dropped support on them, Worcester Bosch are still a very good boiler though a bit more expensive, A lot of the councils and housing associations seem to be specifying the new range of Glowworms. Not an overly attractive looking boiler but good performance and one of the few that will fit in a kitchen cupboard.
 
We have a Vaillaint Ecotec 28 ad it is very good i have to say
 
Had a couple of prices now & very little difference between the Intergas & Baxi, so going to go with a Baxi duo-tec 33kw.
£1400 fitted all in Inc VAT & system flush.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
From which magazine....

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IMHO the Worcester Bosch boilers are no more reliable than most other manufacturers, they all have their glitches. Quite a lot of boiler breakdowns will come down to how the unit was installed in the first place,in that many breakdowns come down to the system never being flushed properly at the point of installation. A fault I have come across a few times on Worcester boilers is that the system pressure drops with no visiible leaks on the system, yet the condensate drain constantly runs, it is in fact the main heat exchanger body that has developed a hole, its a very expensive repair even though worcester carry a 10 year guarantee on the h/exch when you call them out to sort it, first thing they tell you is that it has not been flushed properly and is not covered by the warranty. Be warned as it is not just Worcester who will use the flush-get-out-clause when it comes to water bearing faults.(pumps, valves,diaphrams, primary and secondary heat exchangers etc etc.) and they can be expensive to repair/rectify. Having worked for one of the manufacturers in the past, the service engineers are instructed to check water quality before doing anything else.

The 'Which' matrix shows the British gas boilers high up the league, however they do not manufacture boilers, they just rebadge another manufacturers boiler, they initially used Worcester Bosh boilers, then Glow worm, then Baxi, I don't know whose units they are now using, but its interesting that they are pitched above the actual manufacturers who make the units?
 
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mex said:
IMHO the Worcester Bosch boilers are no more reliable than most other manufacturers, they all have their glitches. Quite a lot of boiler breakdowns will come down to how the unit was installed in the first place,in that many breakdowns come down to the system never being flushed properly at the point of installation. A fault I have come across a few times on Worcester boilers is that the system pressure drops with no visiible leaks on the system, yet the condensate drain constantly runs, it is in fact the main heat exchanger body that has developed a hole, its a very expensive repair even though worcester carry a 10 year guarantee on the h/exch when you call them out to sort it, first thing they tell you is that it has not been flushed properly and is not covered by the warranty. Be warned as it is not just Worcester who will use the flush-get-out-clause when it comes to water bearing faults.(pumps, valves,diaphrams, primary and secondary heat exchangers etc etc.) and they can be expensive to repair/rectify. Having worked for one of the manufacturers in the past, the service engineers are instructed to check water quality before doing anything else.

The 'Which' matrix shows the British gas boilers high up the league, however they do not manufacture boilers, they just rebadge another manufacturers boiler, they initially used Worcester Bosh boilers, then Glow worm, then Baxi, I don't know whose units they are now using, but its interesting that they are pitched above the actual manufacturers who make the units?
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We had that with our Worchester Bosch Highflow 400. Well I don't know the exact cause but we did often get low pressure with no visible leaks anywhere. Just a quick call to BG Home Care sorted it; twice :)
 
We have just had an ideal vogue combi fitted. Gas fitter local and has been servicing our boiler for years recommended it. 10 year gtee, stainless guts. He trold us he would not touch ideal a few years ago but now as reliable as any other brand, had a fernox filter fitted which he also recommended- reckons having a filter fitted may eventually be required for the extended gtees given with boilers now
 
nog said:
We have just had an ideal vogue combi fitted. Gas fitter local and has been servicing our boiler for years recommended it. 10 year gtee, stainless guts. He trold us he would not touch ideal a few years ago but now as reliable as any other brand, had a fernox filter fitted which he also recommended- reckons having a filter fitted may eventually be required for the extended gtees given with boilers now
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I believe that in order to get the full Worcester Bosch guarantee you must have one of their filters installed??
 
dejongj said:
We had that with our Worchester Bosch Highflow 400. Well I don't know the exact cause but we did often get low pressure with no visible leaks anywhere. Just a quick call to BG Home Care sorted it; twice :)
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Luck you, only twice, begs the question why did'nt they get it right first time?, considering they are very expensive for the same service many other companies offer at a far more competitive ticket.
 
mex said:
Luck you, only twice, begs the question why did'nt they get it right first time?, considering they are very expensive for the same service many other companies offer at a far more competitive ticket.
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Considering I've had 18 call out on that boiler before it got swapped by Worcester botch I'm happy with only two more call out in the subsequent 14 years.

I don't find them that expensive. Especially not combined with kitchen appliances and electrics and plumbing. It's nice to know it's all covered and just one number to call. Normally are here next day, when we had young children same day even. And none of these plumbers tricks like getting a washer on my time.
 
dejongj said:
Considering I've had 18 call out on that boiler before it got swapped by Worcester botch I'm happy with only two more call out in the subsequent 14 years.

I don't find them that expensive. Especially not combined with kitchen appliances and electrics and plumbing. It's nice to know it's all covered and just one number to call. Normally are here next day, when we had young children same day even. And none of these plumbers tricks like getting a washer on my time.
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As long as your happy then.
 
Any boiler that is working is a good boiler.

Just get the longest warranty you can.

We fit the ideal range. Previous boilers they had in their range the icon and is isar were and still are shocking. But the knew stuff we have found is pretty reliable. We have fitted a few over the past few years and touch would have only had to call them out less than a handful of times. Everyone will always have their options on this. Wb we have fitted 2 because people believed the hype. Both were out of box failures and they took over 3 days to attend.
Just go with whatever you are happy with.

Have seen the intergas boiler and spoken to one of their reps. Wasn't impressed with either of them.
 
Decided on the Baxi Duotec 33 in the end (which used the existing wall jig) & had it fitted. £1485 all in. :cool:
 
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