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What do you think is the most challenging type of photography? For me it's got to macro shots of insects and a like.

1. You need a very steady hand

2. They nearly always move

3. You are working with very little depth of field.

I've seen some outstanding macro pictures on these boards, how people manage to get them are beyond me.
 
Well I think the most challenging type of photography is the one you have absolutely no interest in what so ever, but still want to produce the most stunning, perfect example of. Especially true if its to be produced to a tight schedule and budget, and if every thing you have depends upon it.

Hang on, hadn't that used to be called "Professional Photography"?
 
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Hang on, hadn't that used to be called "Professional Photography"?

No. If you have absolutely no interest in it, then you're in the wrong job.

I'm with Andy, good conflict photography has to be up there. Alongside the obvious hazards, both short and long term, to yourself and to those you are photographing or working with. Trying to produce something that is independent, not serving as propaganda or exploiting those you're photographing must make it incredibly difficult.
 
It really depends upon the definition of "challenging." If you do insects in flight, freehand, and macro or closeup, then yes that is VERY challenging skill/reflex wise. If you do it with a trap/trigger or just "zone focus" and tripod/remote then it's more a technical challenge and boring.

I don't think "war photography" is particularly "challenging" although it may be "demanding."

For me, probably the most challenging form of photography is probably candid/portrait photography. Not because of anything technical, but rather my comfort level and people skills. (rather stupid considering the decades of photography experience I have)
 
From reading this forum I would have to say wedding photography :)
 
wildlife- much sneaking around in wet fields to get the ONE shot :eek:


Les :thumbs:
 
Well I think the most challenging type of photography is the one you have absolutely no interest in what so ever, but still want to produce the most stunning, perfect example of. Especially true if its to be produced to a tight schedule and budget, and if every thing you have depends upon it.

Hang on, hadn't that used to be called "Professional Photography"?

If you market yourself correctly....you should attract the right clients that like your style. That way you don't have to shoot what you don't want. :thumbs:
 
The most challenging photography for me, is taking photos on the street. I like capturing street scenes as I am out and about, but I am always aware who I may capture in the scene.

I do from time to time get a few glares, and sometimes abusive shouts, not got thumped yet but some very close calls!
 
Taking a photo is EASY.. you point a box with a hole in the front at what you want a picture of... and press a button.
Modern digital Photography? Pah! Camera chooses your 'film' for you, chooses your shutter speed, and aperture, even focuses the lens for you.
Hardly taxing to take a photo... not like the days of yore when photogrpahers had to start with a bit of Alchemy, seperating egg-whites and finding and mixing the noxiouse chemicals to make the emulsion to spread on a glass plate; guessing at how sensitive it was going to be; estimating light levels by eye, then pondering the exposure, and which size washer to put behind the lens as the 'aperture' and how many elephants to count for the shutter speed when they took the cap off..... What 'challenges' are left?

Ones that have always been there..... putting the camera where you want to take a photo..... getting what you want a photo of, in the view-finder.

Still life! Come ON! Stick a bowl of fruit on the table and the camera on a tripod...... yeah, that is SOOOOOOO dangerouse, and difficult, isn't it?

Insects? I'm plagued by the bludy things at the moment. Too hot to have the windows closed at night. I have dozens of the little bugres dancing round my living room light every night.... I could snap pics off them without even getting out of my arm-chair! Not like I have to climb Mount Everest or anything to get the shot.......

Land-Scapes? Yeah! How hard is it to wander out into the countryside and point a camera down a valley? Not like the valley is going to jump up and run away, or scream 'Nooooooo! And put its hands infront of its face to spoil the shot, is it?

People? Bit like the moths and bugs that plague me every night. Streets full of them. It's not like they are an endangered species; that you have to travel to the darkest amazon to find, and who only come out at night....... is it?

Weddings? Well its people. people who WANT you to take thier photo! "Where should we stand? Do you want Auntie Mable in this one?" You hardly have to go out of your way to get a shot.

Press? Well... opens the remit a bit more. Taking a Mug-Shot of the Mayor in his chain when he gets elected is hardly difficult, is it.... just stick him in a pass-port photo machine is you want!

Catching the 'moment' just before the tsunami strikes shore and devestates some south east asian island? Hmmmmm... that might be a little more... err...... dangrouse..... but you STILL only have to point the camera and press a button!

So... taking tong out of cheek...... whats the point?

Point is that taking a simple 'landscape' can be as challenging or unchallenging as YOU want to make it. Taking a portrait is as challenging or unchallenging as you want to make it. Taking a still life, or shooting an event is as challenging or unchallenging as YOU want to make it.

And the 'challenge' is rarely in the technical difficulty of using the camera. Modern cameras are so sophisticated and user freindly, it takes very little thought, skill, time attension or craft to do it.... unless you want to..... meanwhile, the veriety of 'specialist' equipment we now have at our disposal, we rarely 'have' to fight with the limitations of the equipment we can use. Remember, back in the dark (room) age, your photographer had to be part engineer, part chemist, as well as artist, and craftsman.... they had to make equipment to do whatever it was they wanted to do; especially if it was a bit out of the ordinary; they couldn't just ring the Nikon or Cannon franchise!

Beyond that, we still have the same 'challenges' every photographer faced; getting the camera where the shot is.

Bit easier these days slipping a little Cannon compact in yoru pocket before a day hiking round Yosemite, to the days of Ansel Adams, lugging a wooden 5x4 field camera, its glass plates and wooden tripod up the canyons! In fact.... If I couldn't even be bothered to walk.... hire a helicopter!

So how much of a 'challenge' do you want? And what KIND of challenge?

In recent years, probably one of the most challenging photo's ever shot, were those of blue whales giving birth.

Endangered species; they had to search hard to find thier subject... then they had to pick thier moment.... not every day they sprog a new ten-ton fish into the ocean! And do it in hostile enviroment, under water! We had photos taken ON the moon, before we got those pictures!

So what about the moon-shots? Putting a man on the moon to be able to press the shutter of a Hassablad.... pretty easy shot to take... once they were there... challnge was getting them there, and pretty big one at the time.

You can go round and round and round, looking for what might or might not be 'more' or less of a challenge..... but end of the day, its all reletive.

The Appollo crews didn't PERSONALLY face that much of a challenge taking thier space photo's. End of teh day, to a greater of lesser extent, they were 'luggage' strapped to a chuffing big fire-work..... it was the techies that built the rocket that faced and over came most of teh challenges to put them there.... all they had to do was point the camera and press the button!

Housewife, trying to get a 'nice' photo of two-year-old-tear-away... THAT actually could be quite challenging..... sit the little rug rat down and try and pose them, without them trying to run off, pull faces, burst into tears... or catch a candid when they aren't covered in baby goo, or trying to make finger paintings with the contents of their nappy..... COULD be as difficult and challenging as chap waiting for 'just' the right light over a valley in Wales, or trying to track down a lesser spotted red-fluted warbler in the Essex marshes.

Its all subjective.

And ultimately.... 'hard to get' very rarely has much relation to 'Interesting'..... or even 'asthetically pleasing'.

Just because it was a challenge to GET a photo... dont mean it's going to be any more interesting to any-one, or particularly good.

The first challenge is, and always has been, and always will be.... to find the INTEREST thats worth taking a photo of! Then making it a 'good' photo of whatever is interesting.

And that can be applied to any and all branches of photography.
 
I don't think "war photography" is particularly "challenging" although it may be "demanding."


I suggest you give it a try some time. Tahrir Square, 45 degrees celcius, 25 kg of safety kit that your employers need you to wear, 15 kg of camera equipment. You need to be hyper vigilant of your surroundings and the people on both sides mood. You need to be extremely careful not to do something that increases tensions.

Then you have to find that beautifully lit shot, showing an impartial view of the goings on, preferably not between the 2 annoyed parties of people.
 
Taking a photo is EASY.. you point a box with a hole in the front at what you want a picture of... and press a button.
Modern digital Photography? Pah! Camera chooses your 'film' for you, chooses your shutter speed, and aperture, even focuses the lens for you.
Hardly taxing to take a photo... not like the days of yore when photogrpahers had to start with a bit of Alchemy, seperating egg-whites and finding and mixing the noxiouse chemicals to make the emulsion to spread on a glass plate; guessing at how sensitive it was going to be; estimating light levels by eye, then pondering the exposure, and which size washer to put behind the lens as the 'aperture' and how many elephants to count for the shutter speed when they took the cap off..... What 'challenges' are left?

Ones that have always been there..... putting the camera where you want to take a photo..... getting what you want a photo of, in the view-finder.

Still life! Come ON! Stick a bowl of fruit on the table and the camera on a tripod...... yeah, that is SOOOOOOO dangerouse, and difficult, isn't it?

Insects? I'm plagued by the bludy things at the moment. Too hot to have the windows closed at night. I have dozens of the little bugres dancing round my living room light every night.... I could snap pics off them without even getting out of my arm-chair! Not like I have to climb Mount Everest or anything to get the shot.......

Land-Scapes? Yeah! How hard is it to wander out into the countryside and point a camera down a valley? Not like the valley is going to jump up and run away, or scream 'Nooooooo! And put its hands infront of its face to spoil the shot, is it?

People? Bit like the moths and bugs that plague me every night. Streets full of them. It's not like they are an endangered species; that you have to travel to the darkest amazon to find, and who only come out at night....... is it?

Weddings? Well its people. people who WANT you to take thier photo! "Where should we stand? Do you want Auntie Mable in this one?" You hardly have to go out of your way to get a shot.

Press? Well... opens the remit a bit more. Taking a Mug-Shot of the Mayor in his chain when he gets elected is hardly difficult, is it.... just stick him in a pass-port photo machine is you want!

Catching the 'moment' just before the tsunami strikes shore and devestates some south east asian island? Hmmmmm... that might be a little more... err...... dangrouse..... but you STILL only have to point the camera and press a button!

So... taking tong out of cheek...... whats the point?

Point is that taking a simple 'landscape' can be as challenging or unchallenging as YOU want to make it. Taking a portrait is as challenging or unchallenging as you want to make it. Taking a still life, or shooting an event is as challenging or unchallenging as YOU want to make it.

And the 'challenge' is rarely in the technical difficulty of using the camera. Modern cameras are so sophisticated and user freindly, it takes very little thought, skill, time attension or craft to do it.... unless you want to..... meanwhile, the veriety of 'specialist' equipment we now have at our disposal, we rarely 'have' to fight with the limitations of the equipment we can use. Remember, back in the dark (room) age, your photographer had to be part engineer, part chemist, as well as artist, and craftsman.... they had to make equipment to do whatever it was they wanted to do; especially if it was a bit out of the ordinary; they couldn't just ring the Nikon or Cannon franchise!

Beyond that, we still have the same 'challenges' every photographer faced; getting the camera where the shot is.

Bit easier these days slipping a little Cannon compact in yoru pocket before a day hiking round Yosemite, to the days of Ansel Adams, lugging a wooden 5x4 field camera, its glass plates and wooden tripod up the canyons! In fact.... If I couldn't even be bothered to walk.... hire a helicopter!

So how much of a 'challenge' do you want? And what KIND of challenge?

In recent years, probably one of the most challenging photo's ever shot, were those of blue whales giving birth.

Endangered species; they had to search hard to find thier subject... then they had to pick thier moment.... not every day they sprog a new ten-ton fish into the ocean! And do it in hostile enviroment, under water! We had photos taken ON the moon, before we got those pictures!

So what about the moon-shots? Putting a man on the moon to be able to press the shutter of a Hassablad.... pretty easy shot to take... once they were there... challnge was getting them there, and pretty big one at the time.

You can go round and round and round, looking for what might or might not be 'more' or less of a challenge..... but end of the day, its all reletive.

The Appollo crews didn't PERSONALLY face that much of a challenge taking thier space photo's. End of teh day, to a greater of lesser extent, they were 'luggage' strapped to a chuffing big fire-work..... it was the techies that built the rocket that faced and over came most of teh challenges to put them there.... all they had to do was point the camera and press the button!

Housewife, trying to get a 'nice' photo of two-year-old-tear-away... THAT actually could be quite challenging..... sit the little rug rat down and try and pose them, without them trying to run off, pull faces, burst into tears... or catch a candid when they aren't covered in baby goo, or trying to make finger paintings with the contents of their nappy..... COULD be as difficult and challenging as chap waiting for 'just' the right light over a valley in Wales, or trying to track down a lesser spotted red-fluted warbler in the Essex marshes.

Its all subjective.

And ultimately.... 'hard to get' very rarely has much relation to 'Interesting'..... or even 'asthetically pleasing'.

Just because it was a challenge to GET a photo... dont mean it's going to be any more interesting to any-one, or particularly good.

The first challenge is, and always has been, and always will be.... to find the INTEREST thats worth taking a photo of! Then making it a 'good' photo of whatever is interesting.

And that can be applied to any and all branches of photography.

Wow, there's a rant and a half! It's a simple question, really :D

Child portraiture shoots can be way more difficult than a wedding.To shoot that it, not to process, that part is easy.
 
What do you think is the most challenging type of photography? For me it's got to macro shots of insects and a like.

1. You need a very steady hand

2. They nearly always move

3. You are working with very little depth of field.

I've seen some outstanding macro pictures on these boards, how people manage to get them are beyond me.


Define "challenging".
Do you mean physically, technically, artistically, from a business standpoint, or what??

I have had different "challenges" in all sorts of photography from physical (taking photos hanging halfway up a mountain and hanging out of a helicopter) through to business (dealing with idiotic art directors) and everything in between.

Pictures of bugs - give me that over a moronic MD, CEO and art director trying to tell you what you should be doing any time.
 
I suggest you give it a try some time. Tahrir Square, 45 degrees celcius, 25 kg of safety kit that your employers need you to wear, 15 kg of camera equipment. You need to be hyper vigilant of your surroundings and the people on both sides mood. You need to be extremely careful not to do something that increases tensions.

Then you have to find that beautifully lit shot, showing an impartial view of the goings on, preferably not between the 2 annoyed parties of people.

You seem to be implying that you were there. I can't see any evidence of that in your work.
 
You seem to be implying that you were there. I can't see any evidence of that in your work.

I've been to Tahrir, although in my role at work, I don't take pictures or video but support those that do. Photography is a hobby - I'm trying to learn to be a lot better at a broader range of subjects, with a hope that I can change roles in future.

It's a fascinating place, but a bit surreal. For those that don't know Cairo, at the north end of the square is the Cairo Museum - home to all the Pharonic relics like the famous death mask of Tutankamun. Both sides know that there economy will bomb if that museum is damaged, so there is a constant security watch and efforts to allow tourists access.

In the square itself, the protestors built a large media centre so press and citizen journalists could edit and file stories either to their companies or anonymously to the Internet. First use of TOR that I'd seen. https://www.torproject.org/
 
I've never done any before, but I imagine that wedding photography must be the most challenging (or at least, to me, it would appear to be). The pressure of having to get the shots right first time alongside the inevitable issues of weather/guests etc., make it sound very daunting to say the least. But perhaps that's why I'm not a professional...
 
All of it is!!

Toddlers are a real challenge as they do what THEY want to do and you have little control, patience is key. That must be the most challenging... but Weddings have a different sort of pressure, you have one chance to get it right.

Product can be, as you need to create something stunning using maybe a boring product... while I dont shoot wildlife I can see how that too can be challenging.
 
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The first challenge is, and always has been, and always will be.... to find the INTEREST thats worth taking a photo of! Then making it a 'good' photo of whatever is interesting.

And that can be applied to any and all branches of photography.

That is all you needed to say :)

As a casual photographer it is always the challenge to me and one that I have so far never overcome.
 
Weddings have a different sort of pressure, you have one chance to get it right.

Funny that people always pinpoint this fact about weddings, when it's also true of so many other genres of photography, many with much higher pressure situations than the average wedding will throw at you. (And with much more informed people judging the final product than the average bride and groom).
 
Clearly the most difficult aspect of photography is writing your blog... ;)
 
Funny that people always pinpoint this fact about weddings, when it's also true of so many other genres of photography, many with much higher pressure situations than the average wedding will throw at you. (And with much more informed people judging the final product than the average bride and groom).
This^

And the wedding photographers who concentrate on this 'difficulty' wonder why people don't take them seriously.

As to the OP, it's purely subjective, I'm a bit of a wuss, I don't do heights and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a conflict zone. Some people freak at the idea of pointing a camera at people. Some photographs are dependant on particularly tricky technical skills.

There's a lot of different reasons why people find things difficult.
 
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