In car security/dashcams???

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Since getting my new(er) car I have been thinking that a dual camera (front & rear) will be of some value?

Not necessarily for the dashcam 'function' but the security whilst parked i.e. should there be any impact damage whilst unattended, to (all being well) have a recording that shows who/what was responsible........with evidence of value to the insurers as appropriate!

I found this one at Amazon

So, if you have such a rig in use what make/model is it.......and is the budget one I found worth considering???
 
I have a nextbase dashcam in mine,I do'nt have a rear one but thats on the shopping list.
FWIW I got mine from Halfords and they fitted it ( hard wired) for £30.00 in about 30 mins.
Quite pleased with it , fortunately I have never needed its recordings but its there just in case.
Just had a look Halfords are doing a Nextbase bundle front and rear £234 fitted.
 
It seems so good to me that I've just ordered one!
There are benefits in having more expensive models, for example there are some that warn about speed limits and speed cameras, I don't need that personally because I have a satnav, and it isn't always a good idea to have a dashcam that records your own speed. . .

One word of advice though, hard-wire it in so that it's always on when the ignition is on - there's no point in having one if it isn't switched on when needed.
 
I have a nextbase dashcam in mine,I do'nt have a rear one but thats on the shopping list.
FWIW I got mine from Halfords and they fitted it ( hard wired) for £30.00 in about 30 mins.
Quite pleased with it , fortunately I have never needed its recordings but its there just in case.
Just had a look Halfords are doing a Nextbase bundle front and rear £234 fitted.

Ah! I knew I had heard of a brand mentioned here on TP.................pretty sure it was Nextbase? I will look into that :)

It seems so good to me that I've just ordered one!
There are benefits in having more expensive models, for example there are some that warn about speed limits and speed cameras, I don't need that personally because I have a satnav, and it isn't always a good idea to have a dashcam that records your own speed. . .

One word of advice though, hard-wire it in so that it's always on when the ignition is on - there's no point in having one if it isn't switched on when needed.

If you are referring to the one I linked.................as you say budget wise seems very good spec. Please do let me know what you think of it when it has arrived and fitted it :)

I have since found that Apeman also list a Dual set Dashcam and I have one of their Trailcams that has served me well though my model was a budget one and is the same video quality on the Dashcam then sadly IMO not up to security dashcam grade???

As for hardwiring it..............I agree though I have found that the 12V 'cigarette' lighter sockets are live without the ignition being on so surmise they are live fulltime. Depending on wiring lengths of any kit, my Kuga has one of those sockets in the rear load area = out of sight compared to the one in the centre console ;)

PS none too sure what level of power drain they will have if left activated 24/7 for days on end e.g. if left in the airport parking???

PPS If I wanted it "hard-wired" I would likely get it professionally fitted :thinking:
 
It will drain the battery if left for more than 7-10 days.

Thanks.
Not sure which make & model I read it about but mention was made of an additional battery (pack) to support the camera(s) when not being supplied by the car battery.

PS I wonder how much energy they need i.e. can you use a power brick such as can be used to recharge phones and tablets??? NB this presupposes that uses 5v supply and the power brick has a suitable cable (if not a microUSB useable?)
 
Thanks.
Not sure which make & model I read it about but mention was made of an additional battery (pack) to support the camera(s) when not being supplied by the car battery.

PS I wonder how much energy they need i.e. can you use a power brick such as can be used to recharge phones and tablets??? NB this presupposes that uses 5v supply and the power brick has a suitable cable (if not a microUSB useable?)
I'm not sure about using a power brick.
I've got one so I can try it tomorrow.
 
I'm not sure about using a power brick.
I've got one so I can try it tomorrow.

I look forward to hearing what you find?

Plus, can you say what make & model dashcam you are using :)
 
Ah! I knew I had heard of a brand mentioned here on TP.................pretty sure it was Nextbase? I will look into that :)



If you are referring to the one I linked.................as you say budget wise seems very good spec. Please do let me know what you think of it when it has arrived and fitted it :)

I have since found that Apeman also list a Dual set Dashcam and I have one of their Trailcams that has served me well though my model was a budget one and is the same video quality on the Dashcam then sadly IMO not up to security dashcam grade???

As for hardwiring it..............I agree though I have found that the 12V 'cigarette' lighter sockets are live without the ignition being on so surmise they are live fulltime. Depending on wiring lengths of any kit, my Kuga has one of those sockets in the rear load area = out of sight compared to the one in the centre console ;)

PS none too sure what level of power drain they will have if left activated 24/7 for days on end e.g. if left in the airport parking???

PPS If I wanted it "hard-wired" I would likely get it professionally fitted :thinking:
Well, some cigarette light sockets are wired to be live all the time, others are only live when the ignition key is in position one or two. My own car is an off-roader with various lighting accessories added to suit my needs, so I have extra sockets and extra switches. Some are live all the time, others that are only used when actually driving are wired through the ignition circuit so that they can't be left on accidentally after use, and it's a simple job to install things like this - but of course you could also get it done professionally.

You really don't want it to be switched on all the time, doing so will overwrite your existing recordings.

My existing dash cams have stopped working, which is why I've ordered the one you linked to. I'll let you know how I get on with it but it will be a while, as my car has been on our farm for a few weeks and I don't know yet when she's coming home - meanwhile I'm running around in a courtesy car.
 
I look forward to hearing what you find?

Plus, can you say what make & model dashcam you are using :)
Its an older nextbase 202.
Can't try it with a power bank as I don't have the correct cable and the one thats in has a lighter plug on the end.
It's a mini USB but not the same as phones etc.
Sorry
 
Well, some cigarette light sockets are wired to be live all the time, others are only live when the ignition key is in position one or two. My own car is an off-roader with various lighting accessories added to suit my needs, so I have extra sockets and extra switches. Some are live all the time, others that are only used when actually driving are wired through the ignition circuit so that they can't be left on accidentally after use, and it's a simple job to install things like this - but of course you could also get it done professionally.

You really don't want it to be switched on all the time, doing so will overwrite your existing recordings.

My existing dash cams have stopped working, which is why I've ordered the one you linked to. I'll let you know how I get on with it but it will be a while, as my car has been on our farm for a few weeks and I don't know yet when she's coming home - meanwhile I'm running around in a courtesy car.

Thanks for the insights and your needs usage :)

In regard to being 'on' 24/7 I am, as well as the on the move dashcam function, after the "parked" activation i.e. if the system detects movement (the car being disturbed and/or close proximity motion?) it will start a recording event. Therefore, always on or at the very least 'standby' is needed i.e. a continuous power source.

Its an older nextbase 202.
Can't try it with a power bank as I don't have the correct cable and the one thats in has a lighter plug on the end.
It's a mini USB but not the same as phones etc.
Sorry

Thanks for checking :)
 
I have the Nextbase 522GW and rear camera. Works well when driving and has good image quality. Couple of niggles though, on two occasions now in about he last 6 months it has locked up and wont record, can't turn it off or reset so have to remove from the dock and wait for its internal battery to drain.
Also can't get the Alexa function to work, but I see this as a gimmick anyway so not really bothered.

The bigger problem I have is when parked overnight, in park mode the internal battery drains very quickly so after an hour or so it wont sense impacts or record so pretty pointless. It is hard wired into a switched live. I need to try a permanent live but not got round to it yet, but I think that will lose me the auto power on/off function.
 
none too sure what level of power drain they will have if left activated 24/7 for days on end e.g. if left in the airport parking???

I think you will find they have an internal battery and sits in standby until the Car gets "bumped" then turns on to record the incident.
 
Ah! good spot............................I surmise it is a stock image altered to show the Dashcam ;)

Bit of an own goal when their last sentence says "Enable to Enjoy Driving with Safety" :thinking:

My nextbase dash cam won't let you do anything to it whilst the vehicle is moving and I have blank rear screen
so no distraction
 
We have the Which ? recommended Nextbase 312 GW (£100) and it's excellent and at night too. Ours is hard-wired.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRVOwUG_qFs


This states that a 322GW is required but I'm posting to say how good Nexbase is.



Which? Review 322GW (£93)
 
I think you will find they have an internal battery and sits in standby until the Car gets "bumped" then turns on to record the incident.

Most dashcams actually don’t have batteries but high capacity capacitors. They will last for maybe 10 minutes without power. They are constantly recording in the background. They have a g sensor which detects the bump and saves the recording before and after.
 
Re: battery packs for dash cams

I found this page

From a quick read, it seems a good idea to include such an accessory in the fitment...but the support is not enough to power it for as long as a holiday ~ airport parking ? :(
 
Hard wire kits should have voltage sensing so they disconnect the dash cam before the main battery gets too low.
 
Only used mine once to provide evidence in someone else’s accident ,but although it showed what happened and me and the wife gave a written statement as well the offender got away with it .makes you wonder
 
Only used mine once to provide evidence in someone else’s accident ,but although it showed what happened and me and the wife gave a written statement as well the offender got away with it .makes you wonder
I don't think that that's the point. The main points are that they provide invaluable evidence in cash for crash claims, and also in "he said / she said" situations where evidence can satisfy the insurers that the claim is entirely the fault of the other driver but there's no other evidence. And, of course, dashcams can also help the police if they happen to record hit and run collisions and other criminal activity.
 
i have front and rear dash cams wired for some time so i will tell my experience of hard wired and not so hard wired

the cameras i use are these which iv'e had for a couple of years or so

DDPai M6 plus DDpai Mini 1
DDPai-M6-Plus-dash-cam.jpg
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the front ( m6 plus ) is hardwired straight to battery live but is magnetically mounted and can be removed easily when not needed leaving just the mount in place
the rear camera ( Mini 1 ) is wired through ignition live and is in place permanently switching on with the ignition
both have 128GB micro sd cards installed

both are WiFi and connect to my mobile via an app although for normal operation the phone app is not needed once set up
iv'e experimented with the rear camera using a power brick to power the camera whilst the ignition is off and get a full 24 hours out of a true 6 amp hour power brick from a full charge
if you use a power brick with fast charge ( type C connection ) and use the car daily you stand a chance of keeping the power brick charged enough to keep the cycle
something i found hard to do and ending up disconnecting the power brick over night when the car was parked putting the power brick on charge on the weekend to fully charge ready for the next week which worked

using 128 gig micro sd cards gives me about a week of continuous recording from the front camera bearing in mind when the car is stationary ( parked up ) the video goes into time lapse mode after a short time of inactivity until woken up by sound rather than movement

the cameras draw about 220 mA each so not a lot of current drain and doesn't really effect the car battery with the front camera wired up for a week which i have done on a few occasions
i would imagine cameras with built in screens would draw considerably more current but they usually have an option to turn the screen off

these cameras are getting on a bit now and have been replaced with newer models but they still do the job and video footage is quite acceptable

the trouble with the budget cameras iv'e had in the past tend give poor video quality and quite a few of them which say they are 1080p resolution are really 720p which is something to watch out for if considering the budget brands

an example is one of these


there's a varied amount of these all over ebay boasting 1080p / wifi and a bunch of other wonderful features
the reality is there 720p no wifi and need connecting to an android phone/tablet via usb ( OTG cable ) to set them up via a very poor app
they do use a micro sd card up to 32Gb but there pretty poor

i suppose the price reflects the quality considering i paid less than £12 for it
 
ive got one of those clip on over the rear view mirror jobbies from Xiomi its brillian, has a rear camera as well which was a bit of a faff to feed through the edge of the roof lining, delivered from china £45
 
Had a couple of incidents at roadworks near me so decided to invest in a rear view camera to plug into my Nextbase 522GW
saves the faffing about with extra wiring
Unfortunately I've not been able to test it out yet because it needs a U3 micros SD card and amongst my many micro SDs
I don't have one !! But the videos I have seen on youtube look good
I did have and still do in the cupboard a 412GW dashcam, it's a nice camera but unfortunately with my new car and the
way the screen slopes, it meant that the passenger visor hit it skywards when it was used :(
Something else to think about
 
Had a couple of incidents at roadworks near me so decided to invest in a rear view camera to plug into my Nextbase 522GW
saves the faffing about with extra wiring
Unfortunately I've not been able to test it out yet because it needs a U3 micros SD card and amongst my many micro SDs
I don't have one !! But the videos I have seen on youtube look good
I did have and still do in the cupboard a 412GW dashcam, it's a nice camera but unfortunately with my new car and the
way the screen slopes, it meant that the passenger visor hit it skywards when it was used :(
Something else to think about

Interesting point about size & positioning !

Re: your 522GW model ~ was this hardwired in with the rear camera wiring added in readiness for your additional camera? If so, can you share who did the fitting for you?

Oh, which model rear camera did you get?

TIA :)
 
Interesting point about size & positioning !

Re: your 522GW model ~ was this hardwired in with the rear camera wiring added in readiness for your additional camera? If so, can you share who did the fitting for you?

Oh, which model rear camera did you get?

TIA :)
Could you be overthinking this?
I don't have any specialised knowledge, I'm just someone who uses dashcams.
1. You get what you pay for, and if you pay top money you'll get a top system, with better image quality, but they aren't cheap, especially if you're spending your own money, and perhaps you need to ask yourself whether the extra cost will bring any real benefits - even pretty poor quality will be much better than nothing, and all that you need to get your insurance company onside - this may not apply to all users, for example, police officers may need the best. A really expensive one may be better at recording something that happens when the car is parked, but will this really help? Will the police actually do anything about it if you have video evidence? How will it help if you have an insurance claim in this situation, even if your insurance excess doesn't stop you from claiming?
2. Front-facing only will cover nearly all situations, rear-facing cameras are unlikely to be needed - but I know someone whose car was shunted from behind, the other driver claimed that he had reversed into him and the rear-facing camera proved otherwise. If you do go for a rear-facing camera as well, get one with a separate camera that fits to the outside of the car. The ones that have the rear camera lens fitted to the rear of the unit are OK for filming what's going on inside the car but they don't see out very clearly and don't see out at all if you have rear seat passengers.
3. Don't get a "hidden" camera that looks like a bit of the rearview mirror and doesn't have a monitor. I had one and there were two problems. The first problem was that it needed to be set up with a phone app that was useless and unusable, and the second problem was that it stopped working after a while and the lack of a monitor meant that I didn't know that it didn't work.
4. Yes, it does need to be hard-wired, but if you're not confident doing that yourself then it would be a pretty cheap job for someone else to do.
 
For Hardwiring than Halford's dot for £35 front Camera or £55 for Both front and rear.
 
Interesting point about size & positioning !

Re: your 522GW model ~ was this hardwired in with the rear camera wiring added in readiness for your additional camera? If so, can you share who did the fitting for you?

Oh, which model rear camera did you get?

TIA :)

The 522GW is the actual front facing dashcam and not hardwired at the moment, but am thinking about it as
it is a fairly easy job with the fuse box flap being on the side of the n/s of the dash, so easy access and you can
buy the wiring kit for £20, but then I'm not that worried as mine is normally parked up in a protected place at home
The rear facing camera just plugs into the side of the 522GW so you get a view through the rear screen, shows enough for my needs and easy to install
I'll get you some pictures of the view once I have the card and set thing up

ou get what you pay for, and if you pay top money you'll get a top system, with better image quality, but they aren't cheap,

The one I have just replaced wasn't that pricey, £109 and when I was almost taken out by an artic towing a trailer on the M25
it not only meant I could clearly read the registration number, but also the company details on the side as I overtook it later
As I said, it is a good camera just got fed up with having to realign it every time someone used the visor.
Was fine in my previous car, but this one has all sort of annoying quirks I've had to overcome

A couple of the roundabouts on the bypass have 2 lanes going into them and one out, people always seem to to think
that they should use the RH lane to go straight over thus cutting you off.
One now has traffic and people still do it and block the roundabout then try and push in, have had some very close encounters
so hopefully if it ever does happen I;'l have proof that I was in the correct lane
We have been asking for lane markings but nothing so far
 
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