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As per the title I'm talking the leap from Windows to Mac for the first time.

Not going to go all gung-ho and get one of the latest 4/5K versions in case I can't get along with Mac OS so I've got my eye on a 27" 2011 model. Rough specs are 16GB, i5, 2.7Ghz, 1TB HDD (which I'l swap out for a SSD at some point).

Just wanted to double check with you guys in the know that this will handle Lightroom, Photoshop etc for editing.

Cheers! :-)
 
Just wanted to double check with you guys in the know that this will handle Lightroom, Photoshop etc for editing.


All looks good to me, Danny!
You just got yourself a great tool
… and the 27"… yes!

As long as you don't store your images
on the inner drive
 
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I'm new to all this Mac stuff remember
… well aware of that, Danny, thus the suggestion!
Should I store my images on an external drive instead? I'm new to all this Mac stuff remember :)
In my PP MacPro station, there are 4 drives:
1 the operation system 2TB
2 the image bank 5TB
3 everything else 2 TB
4 TimeMachine 5TB

Since you can't include more drives inside, you
should, as the OS is onboard, have a drive bay
with something like my 2, 3, 4 set of drives.

Am I been clear or being too obscure?
 
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… well aware of that, Danny, thus the suggestion!

In my PP MacPro station, there are 4 drives:
1 the operation system 2TB
2 the image bank 5TB
3 everything else 2 TB
4 TimeMachine 5TB

Since you can't include more drives inside, you
should, as the OS is onboard, have a drive bay
with something like my 2, 3, 4 set of drives.

Am I been clear or being too obscure?

Yeah that makes sense! Thanks!

Ps. That's A LOT of storage you have going on there!!! :-)
 
A LOT of storage you have going on there!!!



As a working pro, I cannot save at the
wrong places since it will generate too
many problems down the line.

I would like my TimeMachine to be twice
as big but for now…

I just told you MY solutions so you should
adapt to your needs of course!
 
in that age of mac the i5 will probably be a dual core, LR and PS will thrive on a faster CPU but it's not the end of the world.

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in fact i may be wrong, the mid-2011 27" was quad core on i5:

  • 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with 6MB on-chip shared L3 cache
  • 3.1GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with 6MB on-chip shared L3 cache
 
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in that age of mac the i5 will probably be a dual core, LR and PS will thrive on a faster CPU but it's not the end of the world.

Cheers Neil. Do you think I should be looking for a quad i7 instead as I'll be running LR and PS (as well as a few other things) alongside each other more or less all of the time.
 
I'd have a look around for an updated CPU as neil_g says. LR loves a fast CPU and the older ones may be a bit sluggish for the latest LR. You can't rely on GPU performance on an iMac. Whilst the majority of cards are "supported" they just don't work.

I certainly wouldn't be concerned with storing my images on the internal HDD as long as you have a backup. I use a bog standard USB 2.0 external HDD setup with OSX Time Machine which backups my entire system every hour so all of my files are on two drives at all times. For a few quid a month you can also purchase some iCloud storage and sync your files to the cloud for additional backup.
 
I'd have a look around for an updated CPU as neil_g says. LR loves a fast CPU and the older ones may be a bit sluggish for the latest LR. You can't rely on GPU performance on an iMac. Whilst the majority of cards are "supported" they just don't work.

When we talk about a more up to date CPU are we talking about going for i7 rather than i5? Apologies for the noob-ness.
 
Replacing the 2011 27" iMac's original hard drive with an SSD isn't as straight forward as upgrading memory, but can be done as follows. Disconnect all cables from your iMac, double check power cable is disconnected. Remove display glass with rubber suckers. Remove 8 screws holding in LCD. Carefully pull back the LCD from the top, just far enough to slide your hand into the gap. Do not stress any cables. Carefully disconnect 2 cables from the logic board and 2 from the backlight board (top left corner). Be careful removing the wide cable from the LCD, it is held by a locking bar. I have seen some users let the LCD fall back and rip the connector off the logic board, the cable is short. Carefully put the LCD to one side. Take outside, use canned air to blow out dust, specifically from the 3 fans and 2 finned heatsinks. Removing 2 screws and pulling the 2 sata cables removes the existing hard drive. Fit your SSD in a 2.5" to 3.5" hard drive adapter, the Icy Dock one sold by Crucial is good (as are their SSD's). Transfer mounting hardware from old hard drive to the 2.5" to 3.5" adapter. Decision time, as the old hard drive had an internal temperature sensor connected via a custom power sata cable. If ignored your 3 fans speed will ramp up to a very noisy and unbearable full speed over 10 - 15 minutes. Options are to use fan speed control software, an external temperature sensor kit, or add your own sensor by using a 2N3904 transistor linked as a diode and integrated into the 2 additional wires in the sata power connector (the larger of the 2 connectors). I prefer the latter option, simple and economical. Cutters, soldering iron and small bore heat shrink tubing req'd. Reassemble and clean any accumulated dust from LCD and inside of display glass. Then either clone your old HD to the SSD or install an OS and start from fresh, recommended if you have just bought the iMac used. Install from a USB installer created earlier. In simple terms, job done.

Potential problems to look out for when buying a 27" 2011 iMac. Dust contamination within the LCD, easily spotted on a white display, looks similar to a cloudy sky, but usable. Not easy to spot, potential graphics card issues that were previously covered by a repair extension program for up to 4 years from the original purchase date, so in 99.999% of cases not now covered. Many graphics card issues can be intermittent, and can make the iMac unusable. Both not considered economically viable to spend money on. Optical drives are common to fail, no issue as if required a Samsung external is cheap and effective. Consider the newer thin style 27" iMac, either the older late 2012 model onwards, or new. They are so much better, runs cooler and are very reliable, although like all iMac's, was not intended to have it's hard drive user upgraded.
 
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When we talk about a more up to date CPU are we talking about going for i7 rather than i5? Apologies for the noob-ness.
after the i5/i7 the first number is the generation of the CPU. so the higher the number the newer the CPU.

so:

i5-4xx,5xx,6xx,7xx and i7-6xx,7xx,8xx,9xx is 1st generation of different names between 2008-2010
i5/i7-2xxx is 2nd generation "sandy bridge" from 2011
i5/i7-3xxx is 3rd generation "sandy bridge-e" from late 2011 or "ivy bridge" from 2012
i5/i7-4xxx is 4th generation "haswell" from 2013
i5/i7-5xxx is 5th generation "broadwell" from 2014
i5-i7-6xxx is 6th generation "skylake" from late 2015-early 2016

6xxx based CPU are the most up to date which will be in the latest imacs. 7th gen intel cpu are rumoured to be late 2016.

generally you'll pay more for machines with newer CPU as they're generally (not always) better performing.
 
Danny
I wouldn't get to hung up on swapping the HDD for a SSD. It's a bit of a pain to do unless you know what you are doing. I think Steve's outlined the procedure. I think OWC in the US have a video version of the procedure. However I said I wouldn't get to hung up on it. I have a late 2009 iMac which has only just been retired ( well semi retired ;). and it ran Lightroom, Photoshop and Final Cut Pro just fine. OK compared to the new 5K replacement it was a bit slow, but to be honest if it wasn't for the increase in video work I would have been hard pushed to justify it's replacement So the model you are looking at should be fine.

I'd second the suggestion to store your images on an external drive , if it looks like you could fill up the internal drive quickly. As far as the transition is concerned, you'll find it a lot easier than you think. One small point the Mac keyboard has a slightly different layout to the normal UK PC the @ is shift 2 which was the most difficult change I found
 
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