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Coming home last night on the motorway, had just come out of a speed restriction area and I have a prat in an astra in the lane outside of me still doing 50mph, left a gap in front to let him pull in so I could overtake, nope sat there next to me :bang: so I slowed to get hin past me, that worked fine, idiot cut close in front of me then ...................................... braked :bang::bang::bang:
He only pulled in because a car behind was flashing it's lights to move him, bear in mind it was quite busy, but there was nothing in front of me for quite a way due to my slowing to get behind him
Makes you realise why people do undertake if they meet idiots
like this too often, and if I had hit him it would of course have been my fault, rear end shunt and probably no witnesses :nono:
 
I've been cut-up on the motorway twice in the last 24 hours, both times by BMW 1-series drivers, confirming my theory about the sort of people who buy them......
 
With the amount of miles I do a year now (circa 30,000), I've racked the conclusion that if it's as safe as it can be to undertake a car then I just do it and get on with my journey.

I usually give the person in the car time enough to realise I'm there, and if they don't acknowledge or aren't going to move over from sheer stupidity or understanding then I assess the situation and do it.

Simples :)
 
wibbly said:
With the amount of miles I do a year now (circa 30,000), I've racked the conclusion that if it's as safe as it can be to undertake a car then I just do it and get on with my journey.

I usually give the person in the car time enough to realise I'm there, and if they don't acknowledge or aren't going to move over from sheer stupidity or understanding then I assess the situation and do it.

Simples :)
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Big Andy said:
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Me too. I believe that these slower or middle lane hoggers are far more dangerous than someone speeding. I used to do 60k a year, more like 20-25k now and see many dangerous drivers who just don't seem to have any road awareness at all.
 
On my way home from work I travel along the A13 towards the M25 from Dagenham. The road is 3 lanes wide but splits in two just before the M25, inside lane is for M25 and other two carry on to Southend opening upto 3 lanes again once past Lakeside turnoff.
Yet in the couple of miles or so before the road splits, there will be middle lane hoggers travelling at 40-50mph. After a day at work, unless in a hurry, I like to cruise along at 56-60mph and have a relaxing drive home and anyone wanting to go faster would have two lanes to overtake. These middle lane hoggers however spoil that, on occasion I have been forced to overtake them on the inside when I've been unable to find the space to get passed them on the outside. These particular drivers always seem to be in a beat up old Nissan, that you would have every reason to believe has no MOT nor tax and the drivers, they are just as likely to be illegal imigrants and probably don't even have a driving license.
 
wibbly said:
With the amount of miles I do a year now (circa 30,000), I've racked the conclusion that if it's as safe as it can be to undertake a car then I just do it and get on with my journey.

I usually give the person in the car time enough to realise I'm there, and if they don't acknowledge or aren't going to move over from sheer stupidity or understanding then I assess the situation and do it.

Simples :)
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Same here. I beleive that if somebody is in the outside lane and you undertake on the inside lane i.e. (nobody in the middle). Then you are not breaking the law.

Lane hoggers drive me mad.
 
Gremlin said:
Coming home last night on the motorway, had just come out of a speed restriction area and I have a prat in an astra in the lane outside of me still doing 50mph, left a gap in front to let him pull in so I could overtake, nope sat there next to me :bang: so I slowed to get hin past me, that worked fine, idiot cut close in front of me then ...................................... braked :bang::bang::bang:
He only pulled in because a car behind was flashing it's lights to move him, bear in mind it was quite busy, but there was nothing in front of me for quite a way due to my slowing to get behind him
Makes you realise why people do undertake if they meet idiots
like this too often, and if I had hit him it would of course have been my fault, rear end shunt and probably no witnesses :nono:
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Try driving a truck for a living - we get pr477s like that everyday of the week on the roads....

What gets me is that I can take a turning/corner with less swing (& not go over the white lines) with a 45ft trailer than a **** head in a car..... :suspect: Oh I forgot - I know why, I'm a professional driver & not some professional idiot :razz:
 
sturs said:
Same here. I beleive that if somebody is in the outside lane and you undertake on the inside lane i.e. (nobody in the middle). Then you are not breaking the law.

Lane hoggers drive me mad.
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i would take advice on that fact ..............
 
I particularly like the wallies who overtake me on the inside as we come into a speed restriction section as I slow down and try to move over to an inner lane thereby allowing the law breaking speed merchants to get past me via an "overtaking" lane.
Be nice if they gave the slow codgers a few seconds to get over, wonder whose fault a collision would be?

Matt
 
paulyoung666 said:
i would take advice on that fact ..............
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What law would you be breaking then? The law is very grey in this area unless you cause an accident in which case due care and attention or similar. In my opinion if you have time to pass safely on the inside, the vehicle on the outside had time to pull over and drive on the left as they should be doing in the first place.
 
ahh but in this case it wasn't, we had just come out of a 50mph limit and the traffic in front of me was sticking to 50 (4 lanes) he was in the 3rd lane out also doing 50 heavy traffic on the lane inside of me too.
I slowed to get behind him to either give hiom room to pull in front of me, whjch he didn't seem to want to or opull out behind and overtake, faster care came uo behind and flashed him, he decided that not only would he cut me uo to pull in but also brake sharply as he did so :bang::bang:
 
This happens to me almost every day

Driving My van towing a trailer 60mph in the inside lane, we get to the 300m marker and a car comes alongside, then in front then indicates pulls in at the 100m marker and slows down in front of me to exit the motorway.

Usually there's nothing behind me for 1/2 a mile

Services exits are best, it's like they're at the 100m marker then decide they need a drink with no thought of what's going to happen when they cut someone up to get off.


Also truck drivers, some of them are far from professional

Driving through the roadworks at Birmingham 50mph limit, a woman with 3 kids in the car was in the middle lane driving at 50mph,10ft behind her and I mean 10ft was 44 tonnes of artic driven by an ******** that shouldn't be on the road trying to scare her into going faster.

girls texting at 70 mph seen that a few times, rear end shunts because when the traffic slows people start buggering about with their phones

I actually saw a guy signing the back of a credit card on the steering wheel at 60mph once
 
wack61 said:
This happens to me almost every day

Driving My van towing a trailer 60mph in the inside lane, we get to the 300m marker and a car comes alongside, then in front then indicates pulls in at the 100m marker and slows down in front of me to exit the motorway.

Usually there's nothing behind me for 1/2 a mile

Services exits are best, it's like they're at the 100m marker then decide they need a drink with no thought of what's going to happen when they cut someone up to get off.


Also truck drivers, some of them are far from professional

Driving through the roadworks at Birmingham 50mph limit, a woman with 3 kids in the car was in the middle lane driving at 50mph,10ft behind her and I mean 10ft was 44 tonnes of artic driven by an ******** that shouldn't be on the road trying to scare her into going faster.

girls texting at 70 mph seen that a few times, rear end shunts because when the traffic slows people start buggering about with their phones

I actually saw a guy signing the back of a credit card on the steering wheel at 60mph once
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See exactley the same thing often regarding truck drivers through road works, they even do it to each other so this must prove something. Not saying every truck driver is a bad driver by any means as most are proffesionals but some a far from it. The words "king of the road" comes to mind for some.
 
Gremlin said:
ahh but in this case it wasn't, we had just come out of a 50mph limit and the traffic in front of me was sticking to 50 (4 lanes) he was in the 3rd lane out also doing 50 heavy traffic on the lane inside of me too.
I slowed to get behind him to either give hiom room to pull in front of me, whjch he didn't seem to want to or opull out behind and overtake, faster care came uo behind and flashed him, he decided that not only would he cut me uo to pull in but also brake sharply as he did so :bang::bang:
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I think even in this case you'd be fine. It would be an extremely bored copper who pulled you over for it.
 
wack61 said:
Also truck drivers, some of them are far from professional

Driving through the roadworks at Birmingham 50mph limit, a woman with 3 kids in the car was in the middle lane driving at 50mph,10ft behind her and I mean 10ft was 44 tonnes of artic driven by an ******** that shouldn't be on the road trying to scare her into going faster.
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Perhaps clowns in cars should realise that lane discipline applies in roadworks as well. If you want to drive at forty in a fifty limit,whilst not overtaking a goddamned thing, then GTF in the inside lane.

Van drivers in glass houses are in no position to chuck stones about.........;)

Sweeping generalisations about different "drivers" tend to paper over the fact that the standard of driving today,in general, is nothing short of appalling....JMWO.
 
sturs said:
We should all just take the americans rule. No fast or slow lane, just learn to use your mirrors and change lanes as required. Also it is great over there when you are driving at 70mph and a 60FT wagon passes you. I miss those days.
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Oh me too, in bucketloads.:clap::clap:

I've decided that we don't do "pullout, accelerate smoothly past, pull in" any longer:bang::bang: too much lazy driving - and if they're lazy when might they last have raised their eyes to the mirror?

And too much, way too much, impossibly ridiculously too much flippin' cruise control of the "set it to 70 and switch off brain" variety.

Here's something which is genuinely a puzzle to me. Travelling south on the A1 last weekend on a 3 lane length, there's Stirling bloody Moths hugging the central reserve crash barrier despite two empty lanes on his inside. A mile of this. Why? I have to pass him so I pull behind him and give him a gentle flash on the old headlights, not so much "death ray to the back of the head if you don't f....." more a "Hello chap sorry to bother you but do you think you'd mind awfully".

So he obligingly pulls to the empty middle lane, lets two of us past and once the road behind him is clear again, back he goes to the outside lane. Why?:bonk:
 
I think the American system should be introduced as it would help traffic flow, as currently everyone drives nose to tail in the "fast" lane but the other 2 lanes are often far less crowded.

If something is slower than me in the fast lane i certainly don't bother flashing and hooting it like many people would and just go past on the inside instead.
 
tikkathreebarrel said:
And too much, way too much, impossibly ridiculously too much flippin' cruise control of the "set it to 70 and switch off brain" variety.
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And there lies the cause of a lot of atrocious motorway driving..........:thumbs:
 
I am either driving less or just don't accross as many middle/outside lane hogs. If I do I always go for the flash of lights approach, if that fails on a couple of tries I may undertaker if they are completely oblivious, normally accompanied by a quick blast on the horn as I go past (just so they know I am there, obviously).
 
with cruise control I find I am always seemingly paying more attention, as I don't want to have to turn it off so try and anticipate slowing traffic a bit more. Must admit driving with it on at a set speed you do notice the amount of people that speed up whilst being over-taken and then get cross because you aren't passing them and they are approaching a car in their lane.
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
with cruise control I find I am always seemingly paying more attention, as I don't want to have to turn it off so try and anticipate slowing traffic a bit more.
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Agree entirely. I find with the cruise control on I concentrate more as you have to anticipate slower moving traffic, people pulling out on you etc etc.

Always make me chuckle as you seem to end up with me driving at a consistent speed and others going up and down the speed ranges so they're overtaking you and two minutes later you're overtaken them!
 
i undertake if safe to do so..

but what infuriates me more than anything, and anyone who knows the m27/m3 junction may agree, is this..

m27 portsmouth bound at the m3 junction has 4 lanes for about a mile or so, lane 1 and 2 split off to the m3 and lane 3 and 4 continue on towards portsmouth.

lanes 3 and 4 are quite often thick with slow moving traffic, but the amount of idiots that charge down lane 2 and then slam on the anchors trying to get across into lane 3 at the last minute is crazy. likewise the amount of lane 3 users that all of a sudden they know a quicker route and decide they want to come out from stationary traffic into lane 2..

the other day i nearly got wiped out by someone diving in and then when pulling away nearly wiped out by someone pulling out.

how theres not been a major accident there i do not know.
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
Must admit driving with it on at a set speed you do notice the amount of people that speed up whilst being over-taken and then get cross because you aren't passing them and they are approaching a car in their lane.
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as long as you're not crawling up lane 3 with a 1 mph speed difference taking bloody ages to pass? :nono:
 
nilagin said:
These particular drivers always seem to be in a beat up old Nissan, that you would have every reason to believe has no MOT nor tax and the drivers, they are just as likely to be illegal imigrants and probably don't even have a driving license.
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Really? I spend 4 hours a day on motorways and i havent noticed that the majority of middle lane hoggers are immigrants. :cuckoo:
 
ziggy©;3387432 said:
Really? I spend 4 hours a day on motorways and i havent noticed that the majority of middle lane hoggers are immigrants. :cuckoo:
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the last one i had was a woman in her 50s maybe in a brand new 60 plate citroen MPV with front and rear fogs on blinding everyone.

i suspect she just got into the car that evening and pressed every button until it was near daylight..
 
You guys with more than two lane motorways are lucky, at least you have a choice of lanes, up here the inside can be doing 50 and someone overtaking at 55 (or less)causing huge tailbacks, 35k miles a year, most in Edinburgh city centre, lane discipline is almost non-existent.
 
neil_g said:
the last one i had was a woman in her 50s maybe in a brand new 60 plate citroen MPV with front and rear fogs on blinding everyone.

i suspect she just got into the car that evening and pressed every button until it was near daylight..
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A french MPV is like getting into a space shuttle cockpit

about 12 months ago we had one as a courtesy car which my wife had to collect

I took her to the hire car co

we went outside

right i'll show you round the vehicle

she sits in it

where's the handbrake

it's that button on the dash

er right

how do you start it

you press that button

er right

how do you stop it

you press that button again

so where's the key

it doesn't have a key it has this card


Right out of the way, find me a car with a key that you turn and a handbrake that you pull, I don't want any of this french crap

I just stood there laughing, the guys face was a picture
 
johnb said:
Bikers are taught to undertake.............................................................!
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Obblox!

I wasn't taught to undertake and neither was undertaking part of my training when I was being taught how to teach CBT many years ago.
 
Nod said:
Obblox!

I wasn't taught to undertake and neither was undertaking part of my training when I was being taught how to teach CBT many years ago.
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I think he is confusing it with filtering through traffic, undertaking in any vehicle is illegal. I try and stay off the motorway on my bike, cause filtering sucks.
 
I appear to have inadvertently activated a cloaking device on my car that renders it completely invisible to other road users, judging by the number of cars that have pulled out in front of me either at junctions or on the motorway in the last few days......
 
Nod said:
Obblox!

I wasn't taught to undertake and neither was undertaking part of my training when I was being taught how to teach CBT many years ago.
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Having been caught speeding & "invited" to a speed awareness course we were informed, to our derision by the woman taking the course, who said she was one of the top 200 drivers in the country that bikers were now taught to undertake. This was in the section where we specifically were looking at people hogging the outside lane of the motorway. Undertaking by a car was howvere a completely different kettle of ifish

So OBBLOX to you too!!
 
johnb said:
that bikers were now taught to undertake.
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Are they now taught to ride with their :razz:ing lights on main beams too? I have to put up with that every morning and every evening, its so dangerous :eek: :bang:

I haven't ridden in a few years now, but am astonished at the behavior of some of the bikes during my commute.
 
johnb said:
Having been caught speeding & "invited" to a speed awareness course we were informed, to our derision by the woman taking the course, who said she was one of the top 200 drivers in the country that bikers were now taught to undertake. This was in the section where we specifically were looking at people hogging the outside lane of the motorway. Undertaking by a car was howvere a completely different kettle of ifish

So OBBLOX to you too!!
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I would have thought undertaking on a bike would be even more dangerous than doing so in a car, but on a positive note, teaching bikers to do so does mean that the NHS has a ready supply of organ donors......:D
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I would have thought undertaking on a bike would be even more dangerous than doing so in a car, but on a positive note, teaching bikers to do so does mean that the NHS has a ready supply of organ donors......:D
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Even the brain will be hardly used :)

Matt
Yes I have a bike.
 
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