I really dislike EVF ‘s

Back when Sony first switched to EVF's with their SLT cameras, I tried a couple of cameras (A77, A99, A99ii) and really couldn't get on with them - but could see the improvement as they refined them (despite all having the same basic specs).
This has continued over the years, with higher resolution and refresh rates, etc. and with the A7iv I have I am comfortable using it - the magnificent OVF on my A900 make you feel more 'part' of the scene, but for me that is outweighed by the other advantages the EVF brings.
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Hi Jeff ,going back to early Fuji’s and upto and including the V, that is a bit better but still not right for me.used some Olympus .Sony early ones like A7 and a6000 ,the best one I’ve used so far which actually suprised me was the Z5, which wasn’t too bad.
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If you can get to a camera shop ? Try out an Olympus OM1 or a OM1mkii they are a game changer especially if used with a large aperture lens . And that’s the other variable in your problem ..if you’re looking through a f6.3 lens it’s going to always be dimmer than using a f2.8 or wider .
And yes there are different variables in EVF I bought a Panasonic G9 a couple or three years ago and only kept it a week ,I could barely see through it compared to my Olympus at the time .. I also think that whether or not you wear specs effects the usage of the EVF …with mine in the summer or shooting into the sun I use a extended eyepiece in the winter I switch back to the standard one it helps with extraneous light .
 
Clive K said:
The Lumix S1 is my first proper mirrorless camera and I had no problems using the EVF unlike the earlier Lumix DMC-FZ38 bridge camera that I hated. That was awful. On the S1 if I adjust the focus manually part of the EVF image is magnified and that part can be moved around the view using a small joystick. I also have vintage film cameras and have no problem swapping from one to the other.
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That presumes having a connected lens that communicates electronically with the camera. With a legacy lens, via an adapter, that won't happen ...

Marvellous camera, though, and an absolute bargain at used prices - unless you needed the latest AF functions.
 
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droj said:
That presumes having a connected lens that communicates electronically with the camera. With a legacy lens, via an adapter, that won't happen ...

Marvellous camera, though, and an absolute bargain at used prices - unless you needed the latest AF functions.
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Correct. But the focus peaking function works with any lens.
 
Compared to the microprocessors in top grade phones. The camera sensors and view screens are really quite crude in terms of microns.
EVS screens will improve as and when the cost / quality balance becomes more favourable. They could easily be improved if we were all be prepared to pay more for them.
Some are distinctly better than others, however if you raise the pixel numbers or increase the refresh rate you have to up the ability of the processor in proportion. Which means you most likely have to improve it's power usage too. Which means. Making the transistors and circuits smaller.
Which ever way you look at it it is a trade off one against the other. But what is certain we are now well above the "Good Enough " Phase.

When China finally gets round the USA's restrictions on micro processors. There will be a massive boost to the supply of 3 to 5 micron chips of all kinds at much reduced prices. This will be a watershed moment for camera makers who will then have a far wider choice on the open market. The expectation is that China will achieve.3 to 5 micron litho machines of their own within 5 years or less. Until then such high end chips will remain unaffordable for camera use.
 
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When I had an X100T I used it in EVF mode. I bought an expensive optical finder for my Coolpix A and never use it because of parallax issues preferring the rear screen. As long as a viewfinder/screen shows me exactly how the picture will be framed I don't care if it's optical or electronic. Having the focus point visible is handy but I switch everything else off or ignore it.
 
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Dunkeld1962 said:
I really struggle with confirming focus using the EVF when doing astro and night photography,
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Not evf exclusive actually. I was pleasantly surprised 28mm art just auto focused on everything last night. Different story with 16-35mm f2.8 though. Maybe not enough light (also don't forget canon 5 stop vignette feature!), maybe also not sharp enough. It was shoot and refocus until it sorted of looked passable
 
I have discovered another advantage of EVF this afternoon while walking the dog. I used to do a lot of macro shots of funghi with my 35mm film equipment. To get a shot like this involved laying on the ground squinting through an optical viewfinder....

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This afternoon I discovered that by using the articulated screen I didn't even have to get my knees dirty...

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Clive K said:
I have discovered another advantage of EVF this afternoon while walking the dog. I used to do a lot of macro shots of funghi with my 35mm film equipment. To get a shot like this involved laying on the ground squinting through an optical viewfinder....

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This afternoon I discovered that by using the articulated screen I didn't even have to get my knees dirty...

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That's got nothing to do with EVFs. It's one of the many advantages of digital over film. My DSLRs have tilting screens and liveview.
 
Ed Sutton said:
That's got nothing to do with EVFs. It's one of the many advantages of digital over film. My DSLRs have tilting screens and liveview.
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Nikon DSLRs didn't seem to go in for folding or truly articulated screens, so they never really progressed in this regard above the pre-digital era. No idea about Canon.
 
ancient_mariner said:
Nikon DSLRs didn't seem to go in for folding or truly articulated screens, so they never really progressed in this regard above the pre-digital era. No idea about Canon.
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Fully articulated always seemed to be more a video preference, although they can be handy for stills at times. Nikon had them on some of their lower end DSLRs.

Nobody needs any idea about Canon! :exit:
 
Ed Sutton said:
Nikon had them on some of their lower end DSLRs.
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I used a D5100 for a while and found the articulated screen of little use. On the other hand, tilting screens are very useful, shades of Hasselblads and Rolleiflexes! ;)
 
ancient_mariner said:
Nikon DSLRs didn't seem to go in for folding or truly articulated screens, so they never really progressed in this regard above the pre-digital era. No idea about Canon.
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My Canon 5DmkIV has an articulated screen which would be useful for such shots. I found better still was to remote control my Canon from my iPad.

Dave
 
Not posted for donkeys but been browsing around reading up comments/reviews on mirrorless and EVF etc. I've just got myself a R5 Mk2 and 100-500 lens, first time out at the weekend. Some really nice features but having been so used to DSLR controls and optical viewfinder its definitely going to take some getting used to the EVF! At this moment in time I would also say I dislike it, especially when using slower shutter speed and panning. Like anything needs time and patience to get used to it...
 
Az_GTi said:
Not posted for donkeys but been browsing around reading up comments/reviews on mirrorless and EVF etc. I've just got myself a R5 Mk2 and 100-500 lens, first time out at the weekend. Some really nice features but having been so used to DSLR controls and optical viewfinder its definitely going to take some getting used to the EVF! At this moment in time I would also say I dislike it, especially when using slower shutter speed and panning. Like anything needs time and patience to get used to it...
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Enjoy the camera and just use the floppy screen
 
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