How to react to aggressive dogs?

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I live in a neighbourhood where there is an email group and someone posted that whilst he was walking his dog in the woods in the surrounding area a pit bull attacked his dog. I'm not sure of the details (but apparently the owner wasn't close by, not on lead, no muzzle etc.), but this got me thinking as I walk my toddler around the woods at times, which has scared me some what.

I've never been a pet person, actually when I was little quite scared of dogs, so if out and an aggressive dog came towards one self, what are the best actions or things not to do and do?
 
Without a gun there is probably not much you can do when a pitbull attacks. I heard it is impossible to unlock their jaws when they lock on to something!
 
This terrifies me too. When my son was little (a couple of months old) the dog owned by my neighbour's son ran into our house when I opened the front door to a caller. He made a bee line right for my son who was lying playing on the floor. Of course the owner proclaimed it was a nice dog who wouldn't harm a fly! But I was raging.

My son is a toddler now and I have to say in your position I'd try and verify the story and steer clear of the area until you know. Maybe use children's parks if you have one nearby? Otherwise stick close to your LO if you're out walking :(
 
Stick a finger(or fist) up it's rectum. They usually let go :)

Truer than you think:thumbsdown:
One of my boxer dogs was attacked by one of these and it locked on for ages.

I was punching it hard in the face with no success. The owner appeared and stuck his finger up its butt. Gruesome injury to my old dogs face.
 
some years ago I was over the park with a friend, well a poorly trained Staffy came bolting out from knowhere and grabbed hold of some kid, very very strange for a Staffy hence the poorly trained comment.. anyways Mum of kid was in state of panic so I ran over and dog was locked on so I grabbed its collar at the throat area made a fist and then twisted my fist so the collar tightened and my knuckles pressed against dogs throat thus causing it to let go..

I had read this method in a book somewhere, not sure if it applies to all jaw locking dogs but it certainly worked on this occasion.
 
I'm sure any 'implement' besides a finger would work. If you think you may find yourself in this situation one day then keep something handy in your pocket to use. Be as imaginitive and creative as you like. Save that precious finger for eating chocolate.

Talking of fingers, a few years ago a work colleague tried to separate his own dog from another one attacking it. After the fight had been stopped he noticed blood dripping from his hand and saw that a fingertip down to the nearby joint was missing. Never found it.
 
carrying a trekking pole which usually has a hardened steel point - perfectly legal

get a local workshop to grind the point to a 'sharp' point

attack the dog and aim for the eyes

gruesome and horrific i know, but it's your child you are defending
 
Get one of THESE. There are cheaper ones on the market, just do a search.
They really do work, Royal Mail used to supply us with one when we had a troublesome dog on our round.
 
the thing is how do you recognise an "aggressive" dog without it actually biting someone? some dogs just bound up to people (yes i agree, bad training) in what could be perseived as an aggressive way to a non-doggy person.

i wouldnt want any of you to get into trouble for battering a dog that its intent has been mis-read..

but to answer the original question, id aim for sensitive areas (eyes, rectum, genitals..)
 
If it is a Pit Bull then it should be reported to the Police and RSPCA as this breed is a banned dog in the UK. :thumbsdown:
 
Stick a finger(or fist) up it's rectum. They usually let go :)

this is one of the bits of knowledge that I really, really, hope I never need to know...
 
A Staffie (dodgy breed with a bad demographic of owners) attacked my dog about two years ago...the owner was in no position to stop it so I found a very hard kick in the ribs did the trick. It hadn't "locked on" at that point though. Owner threatened to report me to the RSPCA at which point I offered to call the police.....
 
Regardless of the breed, if the dog was aggressive and out of control with no sign of its owners in sight then it should absolutely be reported. That type of irresponsible dog ownership should not be tolerated.
(I say regardless of the breed because there are dogs that can be mistaken for Pit Bulls - our first dog, Luke, was a Staffie / Lab cross and could easily have been taken for a Pit Bull by those that didn't know better)

On a positive note I doubt that there is any real danger to your toddler.
Contrary to popular belief, even poorly trained dogs don't roam around savaging small children. A dog may act aggressively to another dog if it perceives it to be encroaching on its territory, but it's highly unlikely to launch into an unprovoked attack on a human.
Having said that, staying away from the woods for a while until you know what's happening isn't a bad idea.

If you do ever find yourself in a situation where you feel threatened by a dog, stay calm and maintain an aura of confidence and control.
If your toddler is with you, move him behind you so that you're stood between him and the dog. Don't panic, shout and scream or try to run away - that's likely to agitate the dog even more.
I'd also strongly advise against responding with aggression. If you start waving a stick or pole at the dog, a large, strong breed will take the stick away from you and will very likely respond with further aggression.

If the dog is bounding toward you stand your ground and stay calm - and once the dog is stationary you can back away slowly avoiding any sharp or abrupt movements.

If you feel confident enough you could even try a simple command like "back" or "down" . . . it's the tone of your voice rather than the words themselves that the dog is most likely to respond to, so even if it doesn't know the commands you may get a result.

And remember that some dogs are just exuberant and excitable (and possibly poorly trained) - 99% of dogs that may come bounding up to you are probably not doing so with the intent of attacking.
 
Regardless of the breed, if the dog was aggressive and out of control with no sign of its owners in sight then it should absolutely be reported. That type of irresponsible dog ownership should not be tolerated.
(I say regardless of the breed because there are dogs that can be mistaken for Pit Bulls - our first dog, Luke, was a Staffie / Lab cross and could easily have been taken for a Pit Bull by those that didn't know better)

On a positive note I doubt that there is any real danger to your toddler.
Contrary to popular belief, even poorly trained dogs don't roam around savaging small children. A dog may act aggressively to another dog if it perceives it to be encroaching on its territory, but it's highly unlikely to launch into an unprovoked attack on a human.
Having said that, staying away from the woods for a while until you know what's happening isn't a bad idea.

If you do ever find yourself in a situation where you feel threatened by a dog, stay calm and maintain an aura of confidence and control.
If your toddler is with you, move him behind you so that you're stood between him and the dog. Don't panic, shout and scream or try to run away - that's likely to agitate the dog even more.
I'd also strongly advise against responding with aggression. If you start waving a stick or pole at the dog, a large, strong breed will take the stick away from you and will very likely respond with further aggression.

If the dog is bounding toward you stand your ground and stay calm - and once the dog is stationary you can back away slowly avoiding any sharp or abrupt movements.

If you feel confident enough you could even try a simple command like "back" or "down" . . . it's the tone of your voice rather than the words themselves that the dog is most likely to respond to, so even if it doesn't know the commands you may get a result.

And remember that some dogs are just exuberant and excitable (and possibly poorly trained) - 99% of dogs that may come bounding up to you are probably not doing so with the intent of attacking.

some very good advice, confidence and staying calm is key. i know people that have been bitten by dogs but theyre the kind of people that shreak and wave arms around.
 
A Staffie (dodgy breed with a bad demographic of owners) attacked my dog about two years ago...the owner was in no position to stop it so I found a very hard kick in the ribs did the trick. It hadn't "locked on" at that point though. Owner threatened to report me to the RSPCA at which point I offered to call the police.....

While I agree with you to a point about the demographic of owners, I have to take issue with the "dodgy breed" comment.

There is a certain segment of society that is attracted to owning Staffies and they treat their dogs with the same amount of discipline and responsibility as they do their kids . . . the results in both dogs and kids speak for themselves.

As a long-term Staffie owner (I was just about to start a new thread introducing our new arrival - a rescued Staffie) I can assure you that I don't fit into that particular demographic nor is there anything dodgy about the breed.
They are actually far more people-friendly than many other breeds - and with proper training and socialisation they're not a threat to other dogs either.
The problem is that they're strong, powerful dogs so that if they do get aggressive they can cause a lot more damage than another breed might do and that certain demographic that's attracted to Staffies doesn't help their image either.
 
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some years ago I was over the park with a friend, well a poorly trained Staffy came bolting out from knowhere and grabbed hold of some kid, very very strange for a Staffy hence the poorly trained comment.. anyways Mum of kid was in state of panic so I ran over and dog was locked on so I grabbed its collar at the throat area made a fist and then twisted my fist so the collar tightened and my knuckles pressed against dogs throat thus causing it to let go..

I had read this method in a book somewhere, not sure if it applies to all jaw locking dogs but it certainly worked on this occasion.

Certainly works on Boxer dogs....
 
yep 100% with Sarah, Nanny dogs are my fave of all and I have had nothing but excellent behaviour from the 3 I have owned in my life, one was a bit loony around birds but with people, children and other dogs an absolute pleasure to own and care for.

the last one we had, Summer, a real beauty she was but circumstance meant she had to be rehomed late last year, was absolutely gutted but she is well happy living on a farm now, sad thing is circumstances have changed now and we are in a bigger house with a huge garden and I have more time on my hands... still, thats life as they say.

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While I agree with you to a point about the demographic of owners, I have to take issue with the "dodgy breed" comment.

There is a certain segment of society that is attracted to owning Staffies and they treat their dogs with the same amount of discipline and responsibility as they do their kids . . . the results in both dogs and kids speak for themselves.

As a long-term Staffie owner (I was just about to start a new thread introducing our new arrival - a rescued Staffie) I can assure you that I don't fit into that particular demographic nor is there anything dodgy about the breed.
They are actually far more people-friendly than many other breeds - and with proper training and socialisation they're not a threat to other dogs either.
The problem is that they're strong, powerful dogs so that if they do get aggressive they can cause a lot more damage than another breed might do and that certain demographic that's attracted to Staffies doesn't help their image either.
 
Why wife was attacked by 2 dogs as a child and as a result is very scared of them. As a result my 2 girls are also very scared of them.

I try to instill confidence into them around dogs, but it is hard. Even when we have visited friends with gentle dogs it can take a long time before they will go near them.

I'm sure as they get older, they will get better with them, the eldest is already getting more used to them if we see any whilst out and about.

However, the general behaviour of some of the dogs at the local park leaves much to be desired. I was witnesses a number of yappy dogs fighting each other, whilst the owners do nothing. I have seen a pair of bulldogs, big big beasts taking chunks out of the kids zip slide seat, again whilst the owner could do nothing about it.

I do think that whilst there are some great dog owners and great dogs, there are also some really bad ones. And the worst comments are the ones who say "ooh, he's just being friendly" when they start jumping and obviuosly scaring the kids.

We have thought about getting a dog, as the wife had a Rhodesian Ridgeback when she was a teenager which helped her a bit, but couldn't give it the time we felt it would deserve, so just trying to build confidence slowly.
 
thanks for some posts.
we live next to maintained woodlands and fields which are a nice walk and something different

i've been told the guy has gone to local newspaper, so if it does go on there will look for link
 
All good advice SarahLee.

I love dogs, and always approach them if I see them around. And I couldn't say I've ever once came across a truly dangerous dog. The fear outweighs the facts. Yes, there are dangerous dogs out there, of course. But they are rare. I've met many intimidating dogs, sometimes even to myself! Not dangerous ones'.

And as for staffies. We have a staffie cross. Not quite as bulky as your average staffie, but he has a bit of weight about him (very deceiving for his size and build!), and he's so excitable. Little pest. But if you were to see him around the house....one of the softest dogs I have ever had the pleasure of knowing.
 
I do think that whilst there are some great dog owners and great dogs, there are also some really bad ones. And the worst comments are the ones who say "ooh, he's just being friendly" when they start jumping and obviuosly scaring the kids.

I agree but its the minority that ruins it for everyone. I think they should bring back the dog license its only the bad owners that think its a bad idea. Having been biten more times then I care to remember it usually the owners who say exactly what you put there "he just being friendly" are the ones I have a problem with, if I wanted a dog to jump all over me and my kids I would buy one.

Dogs are no different to people, even the most mild mannered people can snap without warning!!

The worse one I remember was whilst on a job talking to the clients out the front of the house with the dog all happy bounding about licking my hand and jumping up playfully turned into super guard when they went into to make a coffee. I happened to be in a court yard with no where to go the dog just switched, I wasn't even paying him any attention stood there snarling showing teeth and barking, luckily they had heard the dog and came out, and back he switched. Funnily the dog was locked inside whilst I did the job lol.
 
Good to see some of the other Staffie owners on here. Summer's a beautiful girl. It must have broken your heart to give her up :(

I do think that whilst there are some great dog owners and great dogs, there are also some really bad ones. And the worst comments are the ones who say "ooh, he's just being friendly" when they start jumping and obviuosly scaring the kids.

We have thought about getting a dog, as the wife had a Rhodesian Ridgeback when she was a teenager which helped her a bit, but couldn't give it the time we felt it would deserve, so just trying to build confidence slowly.

Well if you're ever in my neck of the woods, you're welcome to come for a walk with Stella to try a bit more acclimatisation to dogs :thumbs:
It's just a shame that people can't be made to take some sort of aptitude test before being allowed to own a dog (or have kids for that matter! :lol:)
 
carrying a trekking pole which usually has a hardened steel point - perfectly legal

get a local workshop to grind the point to a 'sharp' point

attack the dog and aim for the eyes

gruesome and horrific i know, but it's your child you are defending

Sharp point...probably illegal actually.
 
However, the general behaviour of some of the dogs at the local park leaves much to be desired. I was witnesses a number of yappy dogs fighting each other, whilst the owners do nothing. I have seen a pair of bulldogs, big big beasts taking chunks out of the kids zip slide seat, again whilst the owner could do nothing about it.


Your wording does indicate a distorted (no necessarily wrong) view of dogs. Parks are notorious places for free roaming dogs with way ward owners.

I dare say if you go off the beaten track a little you will come across dogs and owners out for a quiet walk, and whose dogs will be more respectable as will the owners.

For the record I own a 10 year old Staff and an 8 month old Bulldog. Neither of which are malicious in anyway. The Bully is however very boisterous an needs strong discipline as it is going though it's adolescent stage. Bulldogs aren't big, big beasts. They are in fact short a+ses!

Try finding a local PAT dog owner that you may be able to meet to get more confidence.
 
Oh final observation...highly unlikely that it was a true pitbull as most of those don't see light of day anymore. Confined to pens and pits.
 
While I agree with you to a point about the demographic of owners, I have to take issue with the "dodgy breed" comment.

There is a certain segment of society that is attracted to owning Staffies and they treat their dogs with the same amount of discipline and responsibility as they do their kids . . . the results in both dogs and kids speak for themselves.

As a long-term Staffie owner (I was just about to start a new thread introducing our new arrival - a rescued Staffie) I can assure you that I don't fit into that particular demographic nor is there anything dodgy about the breed.
They are actually far more people-friendly than many other breeds - and with proper training and socialisation they're not a threat to other dogs either.
The problem is that they're strong, powerful dogs so that if they do get aggressive they can cause a lot more damage than another breed might do and that certain demographic that's attracted to Staffies doesn't help their image either.

Personally I have never seen any aggressive behaviour from a Staffie towards a human but I have seen plenty of aggressive behaviour from Staffie's towards other dogs. As you say they absolutely need the right training and socialisation....but so do all dogs!

However this is not a perfect world and we all know most dogs do not get the right amount of socialisation and training. It seems that the trouble with the Staffie is that the consequences are far worse of not getting this training than it is with most other breeds. That's why in my mind they are not suitable as a family pet for the majority of the population.

If I look at the most popular breeds I encounter when walkimg my dog they are Spaniels, Labs and Staffies. Some will have been trained and socialised very well, some quite well and some badly or hardly at all......and that will be the same for all three breeds. The thing is I can't ever recall coming across an aggressive Spaniel, I've come across quite a few aggressive Labs but I've come across an awful lot more aggressive Staffies.
 
I find that a sharpened billhook sorts aggressive pitbull type dogs out,especially when they are running around the estate willynilly.Either that or a .243............:)
 
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Without a gun there is probably not much you can do when a pitbull attacks. I heard it is impossible to unlock their jaws when they lock on to something!

You heard wrong. That is complete and utter tripe that has been propagated by the media.

A Staffie (dodgy breed with a bad demographic of owners) attacked my dog about two years ago...the owner was in no position to stop it so I found a very hard kick in the ribs did the trick. It hadn't "locked on" at that point though. Owner threatened to report me to the RSPCA at which point I offered to call the police.....

Staffies cannot 'lock on' any more than any other breed can (ie none can)
 
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carrying a trekking pole which usually has a hardened steel point - perfectly legal

get a local workshop to grind the point to a 'sharp' point

attack the dog and aim for the eyes

gruesome and horrific i know, but it's your child you are defending

And at what point do you use your new weapon?

When a dog is running towards you and your child?
When a dog is bounding around you and your child making noise?
When a dog is up close to you and your child barking?

Your 'advice' is nothing short of terrible and could land you or anyone who follows it in a whole heap of trouble. Not to mention the fact you would likely maim or kill an innocent dog with your paranoia.
 
Not sure I really understand something in this thread?.......... Are people seriously suggesting that dogs of a particular breed or race are somehow more likely to commit violence or aggression than other breeds or races of dogs? :eek:
 
to be honest when an aggressive dog attacks there is no easy way of defending yourself without getting bitten, fact of the matter is if you are a dog lover, an animal lover or someone who hates seeing harm come to animals, you will throw those happy little ideas right out the window when its biting down on your flesh trying to tear you apart, all you will care about is getting it off and preventing it from attacking you a second time.

So In cases like this where you fear for your life or that of a child the best and probably the only way to deal with a dangerously aggressive dog is by grabbing both its front legs and spreading them apart in a very fast and hard motion. It will damage the heart and kill them instantly.

I await the flame posts from the anmial lovers on this site, go ahead, but at the end of the day if its you in this situation, please try and call the rspca to come rescue you, when the dogs finished chewing on you or your kids mauled body, the rspca will only arrive, and take it away to be destroyed anyway.
 
to be honest when an aggressive dog attacks there is no easy way of defending yourself without getting bitten, fact of the matter is if you are a dog lover, an animal lover or someone who hates seeing harm come to animals, you will throw those happy little ideas right out the window when its biting down on your flesh trying to tear you apart, all you will care about is getting it off and preventing it from attacking you a second time.

So In cases like this where you fear for your life or that of a child the best and probably the only way to deal with a dangerously aggressive dog is by grabbing both its front legs and spreading them apart in a very fast and hard motion. It will damage the heart and kill them instantly.

I await the flame posts from the anmial lovers on this site, go ahead, but at the end of the day if its you in this situation, please try and call the rspca to come rescue you, when the dogs finished chewing on you or your kids mauled body, the rspca will only arrive, and take it away to be destroyed anyway.


Care to share a link to this wonderful piece of advice........... total [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] IMHO of course :lol:
 
No dog can 'lock on'? Maybe not, but at over 300lbs of pressure in a dogs bite, if it doesn't want to let go, I'd say that's pretty locked! I wouldn't want to put my fingers in to try..
 
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