How to import D700 NEF into Lightroom 1.3.1

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Can someone please help me out here?

I've just come back from a wonderful day down in London to see my sister, walking around Oxford St., and visiting the Winter Wonderland in Hyde Park ... now am trying to import these NEFs into my Adobe Lightroom ver. 1.3.1 but it's telling me that this form of NEF isn't supported or corrupt!

Help needed, thank you :)
 
You probably can't. Adobe has this habit of only providing RAW converters for its latest release of software. So, I think the only options are:

1. Upgrade to LR2
2. I think there is a RAW to .DNG converter available for free from Adobe. Use this and then use the DNG in LR

Paul
 
Thank you for the quick feedback!

Does this converter corrupt, or affect the metadata of my NEFs?
 
I'm sorry, I don't know. I still use Canon MkIIs so don't have this problem! I think it should convert fine but I'd do some Internet surfing to check before risking it...
 
Thank you.

Silly question, where can I get this converter?
 
Thank you, again.

I will use that coverter for now, while I think of other ways to get this done without the need to convert my pictures. I am not too happy to have to add one big step like this before I can view my pictures.

I've started to think about upgrading to LR2, but am not too sure that this is the right move, for a number of reasons. I believe my version of LR1 is not upgradable (my copy is a student discounted copy) and as such isn't upgradable. Also, I am not happy that Adobe hasn't provided a plug-in to support the D700, it's not like the D700 and LR1 are multiple-generations-old!

Ah well, I guess for now I will have to use the converter :shrug:

Again, thank you for the feedback and link. They've been very helpful :thumbs:
 
nikon dont give D700 support on NX 1.3 either you have to get NX2 or another different program [apple/adobe etc]
 
:lol:

Fair comment.

In all fairness, and as annoying that is as well, Nikon are in the market to give me the best camera I can look to buy, not an application to view and edit sort etc. On the flip side, Adobe take £££ to give an advanced application for sorting, editing, and manipulating. I would expect more out of Adobe on the application front vs. what Nikon would be able to offer.

It's still annoying, of course, very annoying .. especially as I bought Capture NX (when I had the D200) as I wanted to use that for my editing (I thought it to be better, yes better, the CS3).

I don't want to upgrade these two applications, and I don't want to buy any new applications .. and this isn't turning out fun .. especially as the converter is taking a very long time to convert my 365 pictures from yesterday.
 
Just completed the conversion process, which took a good 10 minutes on my MacBook

Though the conversion is done, and is now being imported into LR1; I am not happy with the reduced filesize. My pictures went from 18MB down to 8MB! Not too sure if this reduction will have any negative consequence on image quality :shrug:
 
I sincerely hope there is no loss, as this does seem to work fine even though I am not too happy with the additional step it has imposed on me.

I can't thank you enough for the feedback and link. It's been very helpful, and nice to be able to see the pictures from my new toy :)
 
DNGs are great, all the data of a RAW file (and more as you don't need to have a separate sidecar file for the meta data) but with a much smaller file size. I freed up about 15Gb on my HD when I converted my RAW files to DNG.

As you'll now realise you also have much more compatibility than propriety RAW files...
 
Craikeybaby said:
DNGs are great, all the data of a RAW file (and more as you don't need to have a separate sidecar file for the meta data) but with a much smaller file size. I freed up about 15Gb on my HD when I converted my RAW files to DNG.

As you'll now realise you also have much more compatibility than propriety RAW files...
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Thank you Craikeybaby; yes I like the fact that the files are smaller, significantly smaller I should add; but this doesn't make me rest easy. I am not too sure how much of my data is lost with this smaller file size, and I am far too busy these days to start to dig out information about this.

Also, I don't like the proprietory data format for Adobe, I know the same can be said about Nikon's NEF, but I bought my camera all too happy with NEF ... I bought LR wanting to use it on my NEFs ... I didn't want to change data-format. Least of all, not for Adobe's sake!

And how is this more compatible :shrug:? Could you please explain that :thinking:

But yes, again, the reduced file size is great .. but if this was my worry I would have used JPEG, no :shrug: (excuse me if I don't know the difference between DNG and anyother format .. as I've said, am too tied-up to read-up on this right now).
 
DNG retains all the data in the RAW file. It is a lossless compression and so is a true RAW. No data is lost. It is more compatible as it is a published, open standard that anyone can use (including people like Leica and Hassleblad).

I've decided to convert some of my back catalogue to DNG as I am not sure how long into the future 10D .crw and .thm files will be supported.

Paul
 
grumpybadger,

Thank you so much for that brief; and thank you to you too Craikeybaby :thumbs:

May well be worth the effort to migrate all my images to this format :thinking:. I should have some free time come 15th December onwards, I will do more reading into this and see if I will take the leap.

Again, thank you both for the feedbacks :thumbs:
 
Do you have Capture NX, Wail? I would imagine that there will be a D700 update available for that....
 
grumpybadger said pretty much what I would have said about the compatibility, other than that there is 1 type of DNG but multiple types of NEF/CR2 etc.

In Lightroom you can select all the images and convert them to DNG (I think it is in the Photo menu), I did this and left them over night/while I was at work and it just got on with it. I guess you will be able to do that with the images already in your catalog.

Depending on how the DNG convertor works you could set Lightroom to monitor the folder the DNGs arrive in then auto import them, you lose the copy to a 2nd location of the standard Lightroom import, but at least it will be fairly automatic...
 
re your original query, there is something available that will enable you to view your NEFs in LR 1.x without having to convert to a different format. If you google d700hack you should find plenty of info about it, on nikonians etc. I've never used it: I only found out about it because I am looking to get a D700.
 
Again, thank you all for the latest feedbacks.


Flash,

Yes, I do have Capture NX. Though I hardly use it, as I have not had the time to start tweeking with my photos; but I do find NX a better tweeker than any of the Adobe applications, for NEFs at least.


Craikeybaby,

Wonderful tip there :thumbs:, on doing all the DNG conversion from LR overnight. Good to know that I have that feature. I may end up resorting to it.

Also, I will need to go back and read my D700 manual to see if I can shoot in DNG instead of NEF. If that's possible, then it will save me a step in my processing :shrug:


bulb763,

Hacking the D700, now that is something to try. What a fantastic idea. Only, I depend on this body too much to risk hacking it. I may get a used / cheaper body and give that a play ... hacking is something I haven't done for decades. Would be a real turn on to gut the code of one of these and see what can come out of it. Thanks for the tip ;)
 
I pretty sure it doesnt involve the camera itself. It seems that it's a .exe that runs on your PC and just changes something in the meta data of your images from d700 to d3. Since LR recognises / supports the d3 NEF format it imports them fine. There might even be an option to change the tag back to d700 after they've been through LR. Again, just do a google :thumbs:
 
That's ever better :)

Will sure do that and give it a try, once I find it.
 
Apologies for jumping on your thread Wail...

If I convert all my NEF (RAW) files to DNG, I take it I will still be able to do all I need within Lightroom and Photoshop?

Can you tell I'm new to all this? :eek:
 
Yup, you will DNG is a RAW format.
 
sdb123 said:
Apologies for jumping on your thread Wail...

If I convert all my NEF (RAW) files to DNG, I take it I will still be able to do all I need within Lightroom and Photoshop?

Can you tell I'm new to all this? :eek:
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Oh, no need to apologise at all ... if anything, your question is a very logical one :thumbs:
 
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