How Much!! - new Canon Super Tele lenses

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Can't quite believe the prices for the new Canon Super Tele lenses

Canon RF 800mm f5.6 - £19099
Canon RF 1200mm f8 - £22449

The 800mm is considerably more expensive than the 600mm F4 with a 1.4x converter added so you would hope the picture quality justifies an extra £5k!
 
Well how can use TCs with 800mm f5.6 for example, you can't stack another TC on to 600mm+1.4x.
May be that's worth extra £5k for someone
 
The original 1200mm was POA and rumoured around £60k so this looks a bargain in comparison.
In fact as that price was 20 years ago, allowing for inflation it’s a steal.

I don’t recall a prev 800mm though, it’s a very niche market, and as such it won’t have the volume of sales to recoup the r&d costs.
 
Phil V said:
The original 1200mm was POA and rumoured around £60k so this looks a bargain in comparison.
In fact as that price was 20 years ago, allowing for inflation it’s a steal.

I don’t recall a prev 800mm though, it’s a very niche market, and as such it won’t have the volume of sales to recoup the r&d costs.
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The previous 1200mm was a 5.6.... and hugely expensive. IIRC the founder of RED cameras (and Oakley for that matter) owns one...

I read somewhere these new lenses are the 400 2.8 & 600 4 with special 2x converters built in....
 
It only requires one photograph of an A list celeb / Royal/Politico doing something they should not with someone they should not be with ,to be syndicated to the gossip mags and red tops and the lens has paid for itself many times over.
 
andrewc said:
Yikes.

Thats getting on for a third of what I paid for my house.
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OTOH the old 1200mm was more than we paid for our house in 2000, and the new one is the price of a med sized extension.
 
Phil V said:
OTOH the old 1200mm was more than we paid for our house in 2000, and the new one is the price of a med sized extension.
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£22K seems a very cheap extension to me.
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Says £30K as the lower range.

BTW if anyone buys one of these and wants to dispose of the old one I can do it for free anywhere in the South East when I recover from Covid (it is not that bad) just pm me.
 
davholla said:
£22K seems a very cheap extension to me.
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Says £30K as the lower range.

BTW if anyone buys one of these and wants to dispose of the old one I can do it for free anywhere in the South East when I recover from Covid (it is not that bad) just pm me.
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I’m planning an orangery that’s an infill, if I was doing it with brick with large windows I’d get it done for £5k (relatives) but I’ll be spending about £10k on glass.
It’ll be nowhere near £30k.
 
Pricey lenses! I’m sticking with EF for the foreseeable. You can stack the version 3 TCs with an extension tubes in between….
 
JohnStewart said:
Can't quite believe the prices for the new Canon Super Tele lenses

Canon RF 800mm f5.6 - £19099
Canon RF 1200mm f8 - £22449

The 800mm is considerably more expensive than the 600mm F4 with a 1.4x converter added so you would hope the picture quality justifies an extra £5k!
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Have you omitted the decimal point ???
 
JohnStewart said:
Can't quite believe the prices for the new Canon Super Tele lenses

Canon RF 800mm f5.6 - £19099
Canon RF 1200mm f8 - £22449

The 800mm is considerably more expensive than the 600mm F4 with a 1.4x converter added so you would hope the picture quality justifies an extra £5k!
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Jeeeeeze Louise. Makes the bodies look like small change. I know inflation and all that jazz but... I don't think my income has increased that much in the last 10 years to compensate !
 
troutfisher said:
It only requires one photograph of an A list celeb / Royal/Politico doing something they should not with someone they should not be with ,to be syndicated to the gossip mags and red tops and the lens has paid for itself many times over.
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Wonder if the Nikon P1000 at 3000mm might do a good enough job for that thing to be printed at the res these high-quality magazines demand...
 
stickytape said:
Jeeeeeze Louise. Makes the bodies look like small change. I know inflation and all that jazz but... I don't think my income has increased that much in the last 10 years to compensate !
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The 1200 is about a third of the cost of the original over about 30 yrs, so with inflation that’s a bargain.

The 800 is more expensive than its predecessor but prob in line with every new generation at launch.

As for your wages against inflation.

Well 40 yrs ago the country swallowed the lie of trickle down economics, since then the worlds wealth has exploded, but those in work have become progressively poorer. (and pointing that out is enough to get me labelled a communist) ;)
 
Just taking an image that is adequately sharp is extremely difficult at 1200mm... and being an f/8 means it's diffraction limited to an average of ~30MP and good light, assuming it is actually that sharp wide open. And that's not even considering the other issues that arise with long distance photography.
 
sk66 said:
Just taking an image that is adequately sharp is extremely difficult at 1200mm... and being an f/8 means it's diffraction limited to an average of ~30MP and good light, assuming it is actually that sharp wide open. And that's not even considering the other issues that arise with long distance photography.
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1/focal length might get you there....maybe. But at F8 you'll need to crank the ISO up - a chunk. Then throw in atmospheric haze etc.

Ain't gonna be pretty.
 
Phil V said:
The 1200 is about a third of the cost of the original over about 30 yrs, so with inflation that’s a bargain.

The 800 is more expensive than its predecessor but prob in line with every new generation at launch.

As for your wages against inflation.

Well 40 yrs ago the country swallowed the lie of trickle down economics, since then the worlds wealth has exploded, but those in work have become progressively poorer. (and pointing that out is enough to get me labelled a communist) ;)
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Bargain my backside!
 
Phil V said:
I never suggested it was ‘cheap’ but at a third of the price of its predecessor (poss a quarter with inflation) that has to be acknowledged.
Although it’s a stop slower I suppose.
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Lenses like that are of such limited use (especially with today's high resolution sensors) that they have to be ridiculously expensive. I suppose automation and things like synthetic fluorite lenses, casting vs grinding, etc, allow it to be made more cheaply (relatively).
 
Put another way; in the year 2000 the price of the 1200mm lens would have bought 5 brand new ford focus’, the new one is the price of one fiesta.

No I wouldn’t buy one, but compared to its predecessor, I could actually consider it. As in its less than I’ll spend on a new car vs more than I spent on my house.
 
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