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I work in a small catering company in London. My boss asked me to do some photographs for the agency's website. Pictures of food, waiters, maybe some events. How much should I charge him? I thought about £10 for one photograph chosen for the site. Is it ok or too cheap/expensive? Or should I charge him per hour (how much?) or maybe for job done (how much?)
Please remember that I'm amateur and it would be a first photography job.
 
Ten quid is practically free. Hard to say without knowing your work, or what this will entail in more detail. You say "some events" so is it an on-going arrangement into the future? There are a few different ways you could price it as well..

Also its a bit tricky with it being your boss, he may be expecting "mates rates." Maybe do a deal where he pays you with holiday time. :p
 
I'd be looking for an hourly rate (maybe base it on your normal salary) and then a feww per picture, remember to included PP time. Don't give stuff away to cheaply as your setting the expectations for future work for your boss.
 
hi toguko, welcome to the forums. you might struggle with this. if your doing it when your working for him, you might not be able to charge anything for them, check your contract as a lot of companies have things bout it in there. whos kit will you be using?
 
Jayst84 said:
For a different job though. It'd be a bit of a coincidence if his photography was worth precisely the same as his day job work.

[EDIT: I type slowly. My post was in response to andrewc.]
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but he pays you to work, and if thats taking pics or answering a phone or whatever, you still getting paid. Plus it is always good to keep the boss onside.
 
All true of course. But, if I was working as a till jockey in the Co-op for 5 quid an hour, then they asked me to manage the store for a week, I would expect to get paid accordingly. i.e. a damn sight more than 5 quid.

Really though, this situation depends a lot on your (the OP) relationship with your boss. Do what you like, but from past experiences I'm fed up of people expecting freebies from me now. I made the mistake of helping out a friend's workplace by charging practically nothing for a last minute job. Now everyone who knows someone who works there, thinks I'll do the same for them.
 
Jayst84 said:
All true of course. But, if I was working as a till jockey in the Co-op for 5 quid an hour, then they asked me to manage the store for a week, I would expect to get paid accordingly. i.e. a damn sight more than 5 quid.

Really though, this situation depends a lot on your (the OP) relationship with your boss. Do what you like, but from past experiences I'm fed up of people expecting freebies from me now. I made the mistake of helping out a friend's workplace by charging practically nothing for a last minute job. Now everyone who knows someone who works there, thinks I'll do the same for them.
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I have to agree. I did some photos for my company a while ago, I did do them for free, but I do really like my job, and a small favour goes a long way sometimes.

Like he^^ said, it depends on how well you get on with your boss. He could get you to do it for free, in works time, but he'd have to supply the kit, as he cannot force you to use your own stuff.

That said.. Is it worth the hassle, I'd do it in return for a day off for processing, plus an extra day off to repay the favour, or something like that. Probably easier than money changing hands too :)

JMO ;)
 
This job would be after work or on top of what I earn. I don't really know what exactly kind of pictures he wants as we will meet and talk about it next week but I wanted to be prepared with some rates ready in my mind. He only said he wants it in black and white. I suppose it might be pictures of waiters working/portraits, food we serve and maybe from some events we do. I don't really know.
I definetely don't want the normal waiter rate :) This guy is more like a friend than a boss but he's very fair and I think would agree for a reasonable rate. I think that charging per picture is quite fair (I don't think it would take me much time and he's happy because he pays only for images that he likes). There won't be probably that many photos for the website (maybe 15 max), he won't need it on paper (no printing cost). So I thought £15 per picture processing included. I use my kit. What do you think?
 
Sounds ok that would put you around £200, as long as your happy with earning that for time you spend doing it, then sounds good. make sure you tell him he will have the right to use the pictures, but you own the copyright.
 
Its work promoting the business so you should ask for a decent return for it, you could phone some local photographers and ask how much they would charge to do the same.

I would have a good think about how much your time is worth and add that to what you would think you should get per picture used, if these pictures will be on the website for a long time you should ask for a reasonable sum per picture used.

Its a bit of a tricky position to be in...
 
fletch5 said:
but he pays you to work, and if thats taking pics or answering a phone or whatever, you still getting paid. Plus it is always good to keep the boss onside.
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So if your boss asked you to do anything you'd do it because that's what you're paid to do?

Employers hire staff based on job descripitions. If you're asked to do something outside of your job description you can expect addtional renumeration if you decide to do that task.

In answer to the OP I'd charge a min of £25.hour including PP time.
 
NorthernNikon said:
In answer to the OP I'd charge a min of £25.hour including PP time.
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So you think per hour is more fair? I don't think it would take me that much time. maybe 3-4h so isn't it better to charge per pic? (for me ;) )

I checked the prices from alamy.com - very expensive! as Photon said, maybe I will ask him to check this address first and then I will tell him that I will do it for ...% of alamy.com price.
 
NorthernNikon said:
So if your boss asked you to do anything you'd do it because that's what you're paid to do?

Employers hire staff based on job descripitions. If you're asked to do something outside of your job description you can expect addtional renumeration if you decide to do that task.

In answer to the OP I'd charge a min of £25.hour including PP time.
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you can object if its outside your job description, but a lot of job descriptions are left open ended. i would do anything my boss asked me at this job, but that is for other reasons.
 
toguko, i would stick a fixed price in, like £200 inc a cd of 15 processed images, and then another £50-100 for another 15-20 images. that way, he knows what he is getting, and you know what your getting.
if you did it the other way and sold one image. that would equate to you earning £3.75 per hour.

just to point out, i have no idea what the going rates or anything are.
 
toguko said:
So you think per hour is more fair? I don't think it would take me that much time. maybe 3-4h so isn't it better to charge per pic? (for me ;) )

I checked the prices from alamy.com - very expensive! as Photon said, maybe I will ask him to check this address first and then I will tell him that I will do it for ...% of alamy.com price.
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Price the job up for the time it takes you to give you a minimum of what you'll be happy with. You can charge a combination rate, a flat fee for the shoot plus additional charges depending on how many prints they take. You should do this if you're actually doing the printing because you're obviously incurring costs per print.
 
Combination rate sounds good for me. I will get some more info about the job and then I will decide something or ask you in more details :) Thanks guys!
 
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