How do you do a shot like this (pic courtesy of Hacker)?

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Here's one I took earlier...


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...and very nice it is Mr Hacker. So would you, or anyone else, be good enough to divulge how one sets up and takes a shot like this?

I get that the two bright lights are speedlites... presumably stuck on stands (although the one on the left looks bloomin high). And I am guessing it's manual everything. What was the ambient light? Do you have to get the DJ to turn off lights so you can 'stage' it? What sort of ambient exposure do you set?

Sorry for all the qu's, but this is a cracking shot and I need to learn how to do this.
 
Just 2 speedlights by the looks of it, you can control the ambient light with a fast shutter speed so ambient isnt much to worry about. My guess is they are on 1/4 power using an aperture of around f5.6 or similar! Fairly simple, its just a great composition. Hope im in the ball park and hope it helps.
 
Just 2 speedlights by the looks of it, you can control the ambient light with a fast shutter speed so ambient isnt much to worry about. My guess is they are on 1/4 power using an aperture of around f5.6 or similar! Fairly simple, its just a great composition. Hope im in the ball park and hope it helps.

^^^ Sounds likely :thumbs:

Looks like this one was taken on the deck of the Titanic :eek:
 
The EXIF data from the picture says
Exposure Time = 1/80"
F Number = F7.1
Exposure Program = Manual
ISO Speed Ratings = 200
Focal Length = 24mm

Hope it helps
 
Sorry guys... I know the intentions are good, but this isn't helping me. The bit I am wondering is was the room dark, or was the scene underexposed by 2 or 3 stops so that the flash became the main light source?
 
I think the exif explains it mate.. a relatively small aperture in a dimly lit room..
 
Soz for being stupid - but why not get Hacker to comment???

No need to apologise DD...

That's what I was hoping for. :)

I would have pm'd, but thought it might be a question others would be interested in. I'll pm next time. :shrug:
 
No need to apologise DD...

That's what I was hoping for. :)

I would have pm'd, but thought it might be a question others would be interested in. I'll pm next time. :shrug:

I didn't mean for you to pm to ask about a shot like this - asking in an open forum with a member who's likely to tell you anyway is useful to all

So if anything - post the thread then direct him to it :)

For the record I know how it's done and I can do it myself - I just don't, it's not my style for such 1st dance shots - though I will post a few if asked nicely :D

Maybe

DD
 
oi mush post some up on the open forum for people to see the different styles:wave:




md:thumbs:
 
For the record I know how it's done and I can do it myself - I just don't, it's not my style for such 1st dance shots - though I will post a few if asked nicely :D

Pretty please 'o tall and fantastic photographer person. :D
 
Here's a few then - #1 & #2 are using the Videographer's light only and keeping him opposite me, there is light on my side due to it bouncing around the room; #3 is raising the ISO high to record ambient light then using a slowish shutter speed & rear curtain flash to record movement (if anything some more movement would have benefited this shot, but I didn't know he was going to lift her :(); #4 is a higher shutter speed with flash used against the backlighting from the overhead lights to pretty much freeze the action

HTH :shrug:

DD

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#2


#3


#4
 
Thanks Dave... I tried some shots like #3 myself last Saturday (though not had chance to look at em yet).

It's the shots like #1 and #2 though that interest me... the backlit ones... but using flash like Colin did. How would you meter/expose these? Do you keep it on evaluative, underexpose according to the meter, then let the flash backlight the subject and it's just experience as to how powerful the flash is set?

My skills must be lacking big style here as everyone seems to think it's simple and the exif explains it. Not to me. :(
 
Oops, I've only just noticed this thread so apologies for my tardiness Lee.

I've been trying to incorporate this style into all my first dance shots recently as they seem to go down well. It really was trial and error to begin with but I use just two sppedlights on lightweight stands (Manfrotto Nano's) and I'll explain the positioning in a mo. Exposure wise you will have to shoot in manual mode and I use ISO200, anything from 1/80th - 1/125th and f/5.6 - f/7.1, the flashes are fired by Pocketwizards and are usually on 1/8th power but sometimes up to 1/4 power depending on distance - this is more or less the same for each wedding as the rooms are pretty dark by first dance time this late in the year.

As to spacing, if the room is large enough I cross light the couple by placing the lights opposite each other on the 'corners' of the dance floor, I have to stress that you do need a large room for this as if it is narrow or small one of the flashes will light the opposite wall as was the case with the image you posted above. In this instance I had to place the lights each side of the DJ and because the room was narrow some light was reflected back off the lightish coloured wall giving a little bit of fill. You will also notice that because of the angle of the lights not much of Anna's dress is in shadow because of their placement, the trick is to keep moving around the dancefloor, I always try and have at least one light in the shot. I also often try and have one light behind the couple to add a rim light which can work very well with veils.

Here are another couple of examples which have more less the same exposure values but different light positioning:

1. This was cross lit and shot from beside the DJ, the speedlight to my left has lit the couple and the one against the back wall has provided the spot, this was a narrow room and both lights should have been on the same wall or plane so I had to be careful when shooting these as you can get harsh shadows showing up opposite you.

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2. This is another from the same wedding but this time the rear speedlight is hidden and provides the rim light shown. The camera settings haven't changed which is the beauty of this method, once you have the exposure set just keep it the same.

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3. This shot is both lights on the same plane similar to the original you posted, when shooting the first dance always keep moving around with your camera at your eye or very close as you can never tell which way they will turn so you have to be ready to get the shot, luckily this one worked well:

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4. Obviously it does help if you have a glamourous assistant to help you when setting up....:D

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I hope this helps Lee and if you have any questions just fire away!
 
:thumbs:

Crackin post Colin... exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Duly bookmarked, and I shall be giving it a go. Many thanks for taking the time to write it all. :)
 
Thanks as well Colin, another very informative post giving away all your trade secrets :)
 
I don't do weddings
I probably never will do weddings
I only have 1 speedlight :'(


What a great thread though, nice to see people sharing their techniques and I am thinking of ways to incorporate the basics into other shots.
Thanks to everyone for their input.
 
Good post Colin.

I'm shooting an evening do tomorrow (just the evening - they got married abroad) and armed with my new Konig lightstands I hope to try this. I'm happy with OCF but I've never used it as a feature within a shot, I've always used it outside the frame, so will have a go tomorrow.
 
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