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I'd like to try and work out a headshot method along the lines of this post on Strobist.com. Not an exact replica, but using my Lumiquest as key and something on camera for fill.

I'm guessing with the 430ex and 460-II this will be tricky, right? I have tried firing my 460-II optically with -2 dialed in on the 430 on camera, but it never triggered it - not once. I guessed this was done to the low light?

Can I put the 460 on camera and set it up manually?
 
First thought is the 430EX is in E-TTL and the pre-flash is messing up the sync.

Did the 460 not fire, or fired but didn't register in the image? What mode is the 430EX in?

You need to be in full manual, and the 460II needs to get a decent look at the 430EX.
 
HoppyUK said:
First thought is the 430EX is in E-TTL and the pre-flash is messing up the sync.

Did the 460 not fire, or fired but didn't register in the image? What mode is the 430EX in?

You need to be in full manual, and the 460II needs to get a decent look at the 430EX.
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Richard, that could very well be it. I was hoping I'd be able to use the 430 in e-ttl with -2 dialed in and it'd fire the 460, but it is just possible the preflash is having an effect. I'm pretty sure the 460 didn't fire at all though.

I set it up so the 460's optical dooda was as directly facing the camera as possible for the angle it was positioned by angling the head to the subject and the body to the camera.

I'll try it again in full manual and see what happens. It's moments like this I was I used Nikon.
 
The23rdman said:
Richard, that could very well be it. I was hoping I'd be able to use the 430 in e-ttl with -2 dialed in and it'd fire the 460, but it is just possible the preflash is having an effect. I'm pretty sure the 460 didn't fire at all though.

I set it up so the 460's optical dooda was as directly facing the camera as possible for the angle it was positioned by angling the head to the subject and the body to the camera.

I'll try it again in full manual and see what happens. It's moments like this I was I used Nikon.
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You would have exactly the same problem with Nikon ;)

If you are trying to shoot with any modern auto-TTL system, they send out a pre-flash for exposure measurement, before the shutter opens. You can't detect it visually as it all happens too quickly for the eye to differentiate. But the slave on the 460 reacts to it and fires before the exposure has even started.

That's usually the cause in these situations. You must switch off the pre-flash and the only way to do that is to put the gun in full manual and adjust the output power yourself. As you must do with the manual-only 460 anyway.
 
Off to have a play, now, Richard. :)
 
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