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I am going to shoot a mother and daughter friend of mine in an outdoor setting. This will be my first time shooting people and if that is not challenging enough the people I'm shooting are complete opposite in complexion. One is very light skinned and the other is very dark. I really don't know how to shoot two people and now I'm totally confused on how to expose for them. Any help would be greatly appreciated .

Thank you.
 
Suggest use ETTR, to maximise exposure of darker tones. If you're talking really dark/black skin, you'll need to think about lighting as well as exposure.
 
Just make sure your metering and AEB are all in check. I've had perfectly balanced pictures without a flash just by adjusting these two things.

You can access the metering on the top near the screen, it's the button labeled [o]]/WB.

Have a play around, hope that helps :)
 
People are always shooting subjects/scenes with a mixture of tones and the camera copes perfectly well. Why would things suddenly become any more complicated when shooting people with different shades of skin?

Here are three examples I have. They are not very good photos, but apart from a little cropping they are unedited. White balance might benefit from a tweak, but I'm leaving them as original as possible. Apart from the skin tones the pictures include areas of yet brighter and darker tone as well. Everything seems to fit nicely within the dynamic range available. Is there a problem with the exposures? I don't think so.

Outdoors in bright, sunny(ish) conditions :
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Outdoors under overcast skies :
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Indoors with on camera flash :
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The reason I ask the question is because I read so much about white balance when shooting weddings with black tux and white dress. I don't think of it as a dumb question but apologize if you see it as one.

Not a dumb question at all, it's a real issue, but as Tim demonstrates if you're careful with exposure it shouldn't be a problem. Just don't under-expose.

It's nothing to do with white balance though.
 
I am going to shoot a mother and daughter friend of mine in an outdoor setting. This will be my first time shooting people and if that is not challenging enough the people I'm shooting are complete opposite in complexion. One is very light skinned and the other is very dark. I really don't know how to shoot two people and now I'm totally confused on how to expose for them. Any help would be greatly appreciated .

Thank you.

The reason I ask the question is because I read so much about white balance when shooting weddings with black tux and white dress. I don't think of it as a dumb question but apologize if you see it as one.
Hang on, is your concern about exposure or about white balance?

Exposure
Fundamentally you set exposure for the strength of illumination upon the subject/scene, not for the shades and tones of the subject/scene. It is true that the you can finesse the exposure, especially if you want to dig a little more detail out of the darker tones, but by and large a good starting point is to expose for the mid tones and let everything else, darker and lighter, end up where it may.

There are all sorts of techniques for how you arrive at the correct (or preferred) exposure, but I do not believe that regular dark skin (i.e. not ebony) and regular pale skin should present a big problem. The difficulty you may face is deciding how to meter the subject/scene, but it's no different to any other "normal" scene. I have my preferences, often involving spot metering and manual exposure, but they won't suit everyone. What is your normal method for metering and how does it turn out?

White Balance
Fundamentally you set white balance according to the colour of the light upon the subject/scene, not for the colour of the subject/scene itself. You can finesse the precise WB value for a more pleasing aesthetic, so that a tungsten lit room doesn't look like an operating theatre, for example, but the subject doesn't change the requirements, only the light itself and the aesthetic intent.

Since we already have exposure examples above, here's one for white balance. I shot raw with the camera set to Daylight WB. As you can see, the subject was in the shade, rendering a very cool/blue look to the photo. I tried using cloudy and shady presets in Lightroom to adjust, but did not like the result, so in the end I manually adjusted to suit my eye.

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The exposure, with which I am happy, did not need adjusting at all.

By the way, my seated example above does raise another important point for your shoot. Watch your perspectives. This was shot with an 85mm lens on a full frame body. To get the framing here I had to be fairly close to the subject. This has meant that the hands look quite exaggerated in size because they are much closer to the camera than the rest of the subject. The solution would be to step further back and use a longer focal length for the same framing.

p.s. I don't think the question is dumb. I only asked why you thought it was any more complicated than shooting most other things. I can appreciate that your mind might be whizzing around worrying about posing and lighting and so on, but I don't think you should be fearful that differing skin tones will be something to add to your worry on top of everything else. So long as you know how to nail exposures in general then the skin tones ought not to add any extra complication, IMHO.

p.p.s. If you are truly worried then, as you are in control of the shoot rather than shooting an event which is going at its own pace, take the time to check your histogram and adjust and reshoot if necessary. Better to get it right whilst shooting than to rush through it all and make mistakes. Or, if you'd prefer, maybe just fire off bracketed burst of shots at around -2/3, 0 and +2/3 or something like that.
 
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I would head outside and run a few tests so you can nail down how to change your exposure on the fly without thinking too much....

Grab a White & Black T-shirt and hang them up on something outside and try and get the correct exposure....you can try this at different times of the day to test different lighting scenarios...by the end of you will have some kind of working scenario to follow and will ease you mind a little more on the day. Some say a good starting point is metering the grass, maybe the floor is it's a grey kind of colour...or last resort your hand.. either should give you a starting point I would think.
 
or last resort your hand..
I wouldn't call your own hand a last resort. Often for me it is a first resort. For starters it is flesh toned, so if you can expose your own hand correctly you stand a pretty good chance of exposing other flesh tones equally well. All you need to know is how bright your own hand (palm to be precise) is relative to middle grey as perceived by the camera. I meter my own wide open palm at +1.3 stops, which is exactly the technique I used for that WB example above. You just need to make sure that your palm is in the same lighting as the subject and oriented facing back towards camera shooting position. You don't necessarily need to get close to the subject if the lighting is even all around.
 
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Leave the WB in auto, shoot RAW and sort that out later.

If shooting heavily contrasting subjects and in VERY exceptional circumstances (where it's just not reasonably possible to get spot on in camera) i'd probably consider using exposure braceting and blending the images in PP later on, with some selective transparency.
 
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