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Yerrp my HIVE just kicked the heating on.
wonder how much its costing
 
I turned our on a week or so ago as the women in the house were cold. We got up the next morning to no heating or hot water and a boiler error code and I now have to recharge it a couple of times a day. A company is coming to fix it on 19th Oct so we'll have to limp by until then with me getting up and recharging it every morning before anyone goes into the bathroom. What Joy.
 
woof woof said:
I turned our on a week or so ago as the women in the house were cold. We got up the next morning to no heating or hot water and a boiler error code and I now have to recharge it a couple of times a day. A company is coming to fix it on 19th Oct so we'll have to limp by until then with me getting up and recharging it every morning before anyone goes into the bathroom. What Joy.
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bummer that , i just ran round and checked the rads , the one in the back room seems to always need a a bleed which i have done i might put a little in the system tomorrow as the boiler has gone down to 1 bar cold and 1.3 when heating.
 
Mr Bump said:
bummer that , i just ran round and checked the rads , the one in the back room seems to always need a a bleed which i have done i might put a little in the system tomorrow as the boiler has gone down to 1 bar cold and 1.3 when heating.
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We used to have one radiator in the kitchen which seemed to be top of the system and was always the one which needed a bleed but strangely it changed to the bathroom one when we had it refitted. It's actually easier to bleed than the kitchen one so I'm happy enough.

The company I've called are expensive but they do seem to be reliable so they're worth it.
 
Our's is still off and will be for the foreseeable. I set it to 17 back in the spring, it's normally 19. We've decided here to break the jumpers and woolies out this year, although to be fair, not needed them so far.
 
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beyond the blue said:
17? Good grief, ours is set at 23.
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Yup, just to make sure it didn't come on during Summer. I normally set it at 19 during Winter. It gets turned up to 21 for a couple of hours early evening if it's really cold but we will be watching that this winter.
 
Ours used to be switched on when we got back from our late Summer holiday in early/mid September (with the thermostat turned down to 18°C [but don't tell Mrs Nod!]) but we're waiting until we actually feel a bit chilly (or frost is forecast).
 
Ours is still off. But then it will be November before it stops being shorts weather.
 
Ours has been coming on for a while early morning, but otherwise not. I changed the setting to 18.5 (was 19), although we used to override it quite a lot last winter. Probably not doing so this winter!

Although I do chuckle that one of my previous houses had no central heating, just two open fires and a Parkray, we seemed toi manage ok, apart from the one time when the toilet iced over.
 
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I remember the old days... No double glazing and ice on the inside of the windows :D

Mrs WW (she's Thai) initially struggled with the cold here but the other night she said that she likes the cold nights and being in a warm bed :D
 
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I have just had an updated quote from EON and my payments are going down as we now get the £67/month relief from October?
I'm ramping the thermostat UP !
 
I've just received this from my supplier regional Unit Rates and Standing Charges for DD or Smart Prepay

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or other method.

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I never used to bother looking at my Smart Meter monitor, but I do now !
 
beyond the blue said:
17? Good grief, ours is set at 23.
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Our was set at 23, and we often used to boost it.

It is now set at 19 during the day, and 18 at night, and there will be no boosting!

We tuned it off the summer for the first time, and only turned it back on a few days ago.

We are all comfortable in the "heat waves" here, when the temperatures get to what we are (were) accustomed to :)
 
Ours is set to come on at 16, but the temperature is at 17.5 ATM.
 
Never had central heating until I was 28 when I moved into my then girlfriends house.
Lived most of the previous time in a 1930's built flat which had a gas fire in the front room and a two bar electric fire in the kitchen where we ate.
Originally had a gas fire in each bedroom, but they were made obsolete with the changeover to North Sea gas
My bedroom was at the back of the flat which if lucky saw the sun for one day in August due to the surrounding blocks.

Thermostat now on 21c or 22c during colder days, only 15c at night unless its freezing or below day and night.
In that case its left ticking over to stop the house cooling down too much.
Not getting cold again with ice on the inside of the windows or a freezing bathroom/toilet.
 
Haven't had the fire or central heating yet but I did put two pairs of joggers on today! Highly recommended :)
 
Sangoma said:
Worried the igloo will melt :)

That is way too cold for us, do you find it comfortable?
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Well, 10 minutes ago my wife came home and I have since put it up to 20 and the boiler kicked in straightaway.
tijuana taxi said:
Never had central heating until I was 28 when I moved into my then girlfriends house.
Lived most of the previous time in a 1930's built flat which had a gas fire in the front room and a two bar electric fire in the kitchen where we ate.
Originally had a gas fire in each bedroom, but they were made obsolete with the changeover to North Sea gas
My bedroom was at the back of the flat which if lucky saw the sun for one day in August due to the surrounding blocks.

Thermostat now on 21c or 22c during colder days, only 15c at night unless its freezing or below day and night.
In that case its left ticking over to stop the house cooling down too much.
Not getting cold again with ice on the inside of the windows or a freezing bathroom/toilet.
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I experienced the whole ice on the inside of windows and outdoors loo when we lived "oop North" in the sixties/seventies. They were harsh times, didn't stop me wearing football kit on a snowy Christmas day to go over the park.
 
I'm not touching mine any time soon. 16-17C is IDEAL. It may be well into November before I consider. Yet we still have to pay a daily sanction robbery fee for these greedy fat cats to let us have their meters. Sick,
 
LongLensPhotography said:
I'm not touching mine any time soon. 16-17C is IDEAL. It may be well into November before I consider. Yet we still have to pay a daily sanction robbery fee for these greedy fat cats to let us have their meters. Sick,
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£94.61 a year to guarantee there will always be gas supplied to your house whenever you want it? I actually don't think that's too bad for maintaining a safe supply.
 
JonathanRyan said:
£94.61 a year to guarantee there will always be gas supplied to your house whenever you want it? I actually don't think that's too bad for maintaining a safe supply.
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It is if you don't use much. It should be added to the price, so that those who use a lot, pay a lot, those who use little would pay little, surely that would be fair?
 
Sangoma said:
It is if you don't use much. It should be added to the price, so that those who use a lot, pay a lot, those who use little would pay little, surely that would be fair?
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Why is that fairer?
I suppose those who use more might shorten the life of the spinning wheel.
There again regular use might keep it moving more smoothly.

Can't see any justification for a reduced low users price.
 
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tijuana taxi said:
Why is that fairer?
I suppose those who use more might shorten the life of the spinning wheel.
There again regular use might keep it moving more smoothly.

Can't see any justification for a reduced low users price.
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One reason is because the low users are often the people who don't have much, and have the greatest difficulty in paying bills.

The more you use the network, the more you should pay towards it, and the easy way to do that it to add it to the gas price.

I also think that compulsory third party insurance and road tax should be added to the petrol price. The more you drive, the more you wear the road surface and use the conveniences like lighting and traffic signs, and assuming all drivers are equal, the more you are on the road, the more chance there is of an accident. :)
 
Sangoma said:
One reason is because the low users are often the people who don't have much, and have the greatest difficulty in paying bills.

The more you use the network, the more you should pay towards it, and the easy way to do that it to add it to the gas price.

I also think that compulsory third party insurance and road tax should be added to the petrol price. The more you drive, the more you wear the road surface and use the conveniences like lighting and traffic signs, and assuming all drivers are equal, the more you are on the road, the more chance there is of an accident. :)
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I agree that the prepayment meters should have a lower rate because they are often the users who have less.

Why do low users on regular meters often have less money?
How about one or two professional people who are out at work long hours, quite a lot of them I suspect.
The main network still needs maintaining whether you use a lot of gas individually or not
I think your reasoning is completely flawed in this instance.
 
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Our ch is set to 18.5 now when it's on - 0530-0800 and 1630-1800. Set to 15 outside those hours. If we need warming up, I'll either boost it for 30 minutes or if downstairs, put the gas fire in the sitting room on for a while. It works for us.
 
tijuana taxi said:
I agree that the prepayment meters should have a lower rate because they are often the users who have less.

Why do low users on regular meters often have less money?
How about one or two professional people who are out at work long hours, quite a lot of them I suspect.
The main network still needs maintaining whether you use a lot of gas individually or not
I think you reasoning is completely flawed in this instance.
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Yes, it could be flawed, or it could just be different to yours :)

I agree that people who are at home little, may be highly paid professionals, but if they make little use of the infrastructure, I don't see why they should pay the same as some one who uses it a lot. The same can be said for those wh use little because they have been intelligent with their insulation and energy use.

I don't pay a levy for the maintenance of the rail network, unless I use it, then my share is paid for in the ticket price.
 
Still not turned ours on yet, but most of the house is maintaining 21 degrees at the moment without it.

The only room that is a bit chilly is my office, aka the kids playroom which used to be an integrated garage before it was converted. But I think that I have come up with a good solution to heating just that room rather than the whole house while I am working at home on my own. I have ordered one of these heated clothes airers which are meant to be much cheaper for drying clothes than using the tumble dryer, and I will set that up in my office and I can benefit from the waste heat to keep me toasty. Well that's the plan anyway, will see how it works out when it arrives.
 
Sangoma said:
Yes, it could be flawed, or it could just be different to yours :)

I agree that people who are at home little, may be highly paid professionals, but if they make little use of the infrastructure, I don't see why they should pay the same as some one who uses it a lot. The same can be said for those wh use little because they have been intelligent with their insulation and energy use.

I don't pay a levy for the maintenance of the rail network, unless I use it, then my share is paid for in the ticket price.
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You're paying for the infrastructure that supplies gas to your home. How much you use is irrelevant as the infrastructure is still there and cost the same to maintain. If you don't travel on the trains, you're not using their network at all.

Also, you "road tax" analogy is wrong as Vehicle Excise Duty is nothing to do with the maintenance of the roads.
 
Marc said:
You're paying for the infrastructure that supplies gas to your home. How much you use is irrelevant as the infrastructure is still there and cost the same to maintain. If you don't travel on the trains, you're not using their network at all.

Also, you "road tax" analogy is wrong as Vehicle Excise Duty is nothing to do with the maintenance of the roads.
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Not directly no, but it goes into the pot, and road maintenance is paid for out of that pot.

I agree the cost to maintain the (gas) supply is the same whether you use it or not, but I still believe that what you pay towards that should be related to how much you use.
(we are high users for the size of property, so it is not being said because I want to pay less )
 
Sangoma said:
It is if you don't use much. It should be added to the price, so that those who use a lot, pay a lot, those who use little would pay little, surely that would be fair?
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You could argue that it costs more to maintain a service that is used very seldom. If you're using it every day then it's probably maintaining itself and any problems will be spotted before they become serious.

I do agree that people who have more money could pay more and those that have less, less. But that's essentially taxation. Nationalise and make supply (not use) free.
Sangoma said:
I also think that compulsory third party insurance and road tax should be added to the petrol price. The more you drive, the more you wear the road surface and use the conveniences like lighting and traffic signs, and assuming all drivers are equal, the more you are on the road, the more chance there is of an accident. :)
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I can assure you that drivers (and cars) are far from equal especially for 3rd party risk. But since I just bought an ev, sure, tax petrol more :D
 
JonathanRyan said:
£94.61 a year to guarantee there will always be gas supplied to your house whenever you want it? I actually don't think that's too bad for maintaining a safe supply.
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So basically £50 out of pocket while you use precisely zero. What a bloody great deal. Scam or daylight robbery comes to mind
 
simon ess said:
Easily overcome. Get rid of all your means of receiving gas and electric and stop paying it.
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I'm not sure that even deserves a response
 
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