hasselblad 200 series?

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I was thinking of buying a hasselblad 203FE, but it appears the 200 series is rare, even on ebay. Looks great, some versions have 1/2000th second shutter and can put older lens in F mode and use it..even if the battery runs out it operates like a 500 series camera.. So how come its not popular??
 
I like 'em a lot I have to admit. I don't think it's so much that they're not popular - they'd have cost a bomb when new so wouldn't have been a volume seller like the 500 series and I guess those who have one will tend to hang on to them. Ffordes usually have a few used 202FAs in stock, but I don't think I've seen them advertising a 203FE at all.

The nice thing about blads is there are loads of blad service centres all over the UK, but I was told that any electronic blad with problems has to go back to the factory in Sweden. I dunno how true that is, but something to be aware of. I don't think I'd let it stop me getting one although I'm happy with my 501CM.
 
the only issue i can find with the 200, is the latest lens wont work with a digital back, but the older CFE etc can still work with phase one etc..

Im looking into a newer body cause i have the 500cm, and would like the 180mm eventually, but i hear the top part will go dark through the viewfinder with anything over 150mm :(
 
The viewfinder vignetting with some lenses was the issue they addressed by introducing the 501CM with it's larger mirror which gets rid of the problem altogether. It's also referrred to as a 'sliding mirror' so I think apart from flipping up, it must move back too. It is a huge mirror. Your other option sticking with the 500 series is a 503CX. It slightly pre-dates the 501CM, but it does have TTL flash (which the 501CM doesn't) while still having the smaller mirror - I think.
 
Even with the 202FA, complete cameras (body,mag, lens and finder) usually go 2nd hand for well over £3K so the 203FE is going to be a lot more I'd think.
 
That's the way to go I reckon, but I don't know much about compatibility of your existing bits.
 
blinkerz do you have a site or flickr page? I'm interested to see portrait work from medium format users
 
I just want a 40mm f4 Distagon. :'(
 
Theres millions of other users out there with MF portraits shots.

i dont have hardly any portrait pictures on MF, longest lens i got is the 80mm at the moment, which i hate..

most of my pictures so far have been mucking around and playing/testing focus etc..
 
Yeah I've already done plenty of searches etc but it's good to have someone's work in front of you when you've seen what they've produced on digital and then see how they approach MF and the results they achieve. It was more about the transition really, not a problem though.
 
I looked into a 203 system when my mamiya gear was nicked, working on the Millenium stadium. I was hit over the head and everything was taken from me, plus the car was broken into. I had obviously been watched by the river opposite the stadium. Anyway, hasselbald let me have one for a few months together with a set of lenses, to try it out.

The build quality is simply wonderful. The depth of the chrome around the edges and everything is a fine tolrance as a Swiss watch. The backs go on with barely a click, just a "tick" as the catches drop home. Beautiful.

The zone system control is dead easy too. You can simply toggle up and down the exposure scale with the blue arrow shaped buttons. I can't remember it all, it was some years ago now. What attracted me to it or another 200 series, can't remember which one now, was the ability to have leaf shutter lenses OR use the focal plane shutter built in, so you had flash synch at all speeds on the diaphragm shutter lenses, or switch over and disable the leaf shutter and use the curtain shutter in the camera.

In the end, after using it for a few months, I found I couldn't geton with it. The build was unquestionable. The lenses were OK, but not all were as sharp as I would have liked. The modern ones were fine. BUT, even after using my RZ as a hand held camera quite a lot I found the blad fitted with anything over about a 140 to be like working with a shoebox with a telescope strapped to the front. The handling was simply aweful. It went all front heavy and was very difficult to use out in the field.

If I was shooting less moving subjects and didn't require the use of 250mm les quite often, then I would probably have stuck with it. For people and landscapes etc...first class. I actually went to the Contax 635 and lashed out over £20,000 for a system with them instead...then they went bust a few years later! The Zeiss lenses for the Contax 645 are incredible. They are all APO, even though not labelled as such - they were actually built for digital and it was the Phase One rep who put me off the blad and onto the Contax. He wouldn't demo his back on th eblad, because it was too soft - he used the Contax because ti was much, much sharper on digi capture.

The difference was the Contax lenses focussed all the spectrum to the same spot. Blad lenses didn't, but used with film this doesn't matter because there is thickness with film, one layer behind th eother, so provided the colours are focussed on their respective layer, it looks sharp.

Does that make sense? I know what I mean!
 
Does that make sense? I know what I mean!

It makes absolute sense. Blads are unique in their build quality and there's a pleasure in just holding and using one. My 501CM is an absolute indulgence and I love the thing, but in many respects I find the RB67 a far better and more practical camera in every way.
 
I love the build quality, the look and the pleasure in holding a blad. I have heard some lens are soft on digital back, but also theres some really good ones to be used.

I also wouldnt mind trying out the 110mm F2 lens...

Il keep looking into it all and wait for some bargains, no point paying over the top prices for it all..
 
Will digital backs ever start to come down in price and rival DSLRs? I can see that 6 MP versions may head that way but is the technology such that it will continue to improve and thereby push down the more recent backs? Forgive my ignorance but the thought of a MF with digi back is very enticing (but makes a full frame DSLR look very cheap!)
 
the second hand market for digitial back should become more saturated overtime as more and more backs are sold. Also as DSLR's continue to get better, some people will ditch older backs.


So im hoping eventually to pick up a used back thats not insanely expensive.

I like the idea that you can get adapters and use a digital back for a whole range of MF cameras, so your not even tied to one system.
 
yeah it seems like a great way to work, although I don't know if the images the digi backs produce are superior to equivalent DSLRs or if they produce a 'film' like result. To be honest at current prices it's not an avenue I could even vaguely follow.
 
not sure it's of interest blinkerz but theres a digi back for hass on fleabay at the moment
 
yup but one looks a bit cheap? prob just my ignorance
 
The same way the 6000 series of Rollei isn't as popular as the legendary TLR's. Collectors and users generally prefer totally mechanical cameras. It doesn't mean they are bad, because that's not true. I used to have a 6002 and it was an excellent camera, but i prefer my 2.8F. The experience is more raw with the mechanical TLR. :)

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