Guy drives through red light next to police car and they ignore it....

Not always. I have found on several occasions when slowing at a safe distance behind another car, the driver in front will unnecessarily brake heavily and too early stopping way too short of where they actually need to be.
Yes, agreed not always.

But if gman can see them watching in their mirror...
 
TBH if you are having to adjust your speed significantly because of the car in front, you are probably too close. Or not paying attention. :)

Not if the car in front is adjusting its speed significantly, it's all relevant. But I feel that you are deliberately being difficult with your debating and not taking the elements of reality into the equation.
 
But if the car in front, say 20 yards in front, stops dead, you don't stop dead 20 yards behind it, you control your braking to end up a couple yards behind it, and if you can't see them looking back in the mirror at that distance you need to get your eyes checked!
 
Not if the car in front is adjusting its speed significantly, it's all relevant. But I feel that you are deliberately being difficult with your debating and not taking the elements of reality into the equation.
No, I think it is another way round - that there's a different approach taken to life by some when they get into a car. They do things that they wouldn't dream of when out of it.

They take on a "I'm more important than those around me" persona, and drive accordingly. Less of that and more considered, collaborative driving would make the roads a much better place for all.
 
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At 30mph, braking distance is 14m and even if you're covering the pedal, there'll be a few metres of thinking distance so 20 yards might be too close. BUT those figures are based on rather older cars than most still on the road!
 
there'll be a few metres of thinking distance so 20 yards might be too close.
true I probably should have said 50 yards, as an example, but then again, if someone dropped a brick wall 20 yards in front, you may hit it, but a car at 20 yards is not going to stop dead, dead, it will continue to move forward while braking.
 
True.
 
No, I think it is another way round - that there's a different approach taken to life by some when they get into a car. They do things that they wouldn't dream of when out of it.

They take on a "I'm more important than those around me" persona, and drive accordingly. Less of that and more considered, collaborative driving would make the roads a much better place for all.

I think with our roads and the sheer number of cars on the road it's not reasonable nor realistic to expect people to drive at a distance where if the one ahead slams the brakes then the one behind can gently come to a stop. It's even more difficult on the motorway because if you leave a larger than necessary gap then inevitably some asinine single cell entity who is most likely driving an Audi and who has sat in the outside lane for 20 miles until they've reached the number 1 marker board at their exit will jump into this gap and that buggers up your "safe space".

Interestingly and perhaps ironically you are promoting considerate driving, yet in my opinion someone unnecessarily braking harshly is what I would consider as being inconsiderate, far more so than whatever gap someone may be leaving.
 
That looks like a lot of what I was referring to in my post...

It’s other people, not me guv.
 
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