Gitzo Ocean Traveler - Pre Use Review!

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A follow up from this thread, copied from elsewhere - apologies for repeating the back story which you may be aware of.

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My New Tripod, the Gitzo Ocean Explorer.

The beach has killed all my previous tripods. Last year I left my first on a beach on the Isle of Mull. Literally, took the camera off it, got in my car, and drove off. After ten min, I realised my mistake. I went back, gone!

My next tripod, the Manfrotto 475B Pro, was a STUPID buy. Sturdy? You bet. It weighs a tonne. I do love it for when absolute 100% stillness is required, and when I don't have to walk far from transport. The beach again though, has started to wreck it. I have already lost one of the feet in deep muddy sand, and the leg clasps have started to grind and jam due to sand and / or salt water. It requires some TLC to stop it being permanently wrecked...

My NEXT tripod...the Manfrotto 440 Carbon One, was a lovely bit of kit. I took it everywhere, abused it, and never really cared much for it (stupid). As a result, I have lost one of it's feet, the bottom leg section on one of the legs no longer extends, and two of the clasps literally snapped off due to corrosion from sea water. So, ignoring the latest tripod....about £1,000 spent, of which, only £400 remains in working order.

This latest tripod, the Gitzo Ocean Traveler promises to change my luck. Stainless Steel and Carbon Fibre, with apparent unique Ocean Lock legs, it is supposed to be completely invulnerable to Sand and Salt Water. I will still clean and maintain it, but compared to the others, it should be plain sailing. The tripod cost over £900 which included a snazzy bag, and an upgrade to the head (added quick release). You may point and laugh at the crazy price, but if you consider the rate at which my previous tripods were biting the dust (or sand?), this purchase makes sense.

The build quality of the Gitzo is something to behold. Opening the box, it just oozes quality. The carbon is luxurious, the stainless steel, flawless. It really is made to perfection. Everything is smooth, easy to operate, and it's ever so light. I mean, it is INCREDIBLY light.

My only gripe? The fact that I had to pay for Quick Release. Without it, the tripod is a complete waste of space, I do mean that. Trying to screw it directly to the D3 with 24 to 70 attached was a joke. Once attached there was so much play and movement due to the small contact area. that I had zero confidence in letting my camera go. This is a big downside to the tripod, and it is my opinion that a quick release bundle should be made available. Upon adding the Gitzo Quick Release, which set me back an additional £70, things really get a lot better. I still think there is room for improvement, as if I put enough pressure on the camera, the ballhead will slip (slowly). I am used to using the Hydrostatic Manfrotto head, which when locked, seems impossible to budge. In comparison, this gitzo ball head should be handled delicately, especially when using with large bodies and glass. It would not take a large budge to sent the ball sliding, and the camera swinging.

Adding the Quick Release plate has led to another issue. I can no longer fold the Tripod down fully and put it in the Carry Bag (bought separately). I need to unscrew the quick release and stick it in the pouch on the side of the bag. A minor annoyance, but no deal breaker.

So far, without any form of field test, I reckon I am going to end up giving the legs a solid 10 / 10, they are in a different league. The head worries me though. I suspect if the ball slipping gets any worse, I will struggle to give it a 4 / 10. It really is a let down on that front, but cost aside, the head is easy to upgrade. Again, head size is very important depending on which bag you use for storage. The Gitzo bag I have fits the tripod and original head, JUST and no more. Another thing to consider, if the head requires upgrading - the tripod will sore way above the £1,000 mark, which may leave some people "head" scratching ;).

I will report back once I get a chance to use it properly, and I will post more photos of it shortly.

Gary.
 
Whatever you do,don't walk away and leave it somewhere by mistake :naughty:

No, that was rather silly. I have done it twice in my life!

Aged 18, left a wallet with £400 in cash, in a BT phonebox. I was in the middle of a blazing row with my Ex, and had place the wallet down. Slammed the phone, slammed the booth door, and walked away.

And the tripod. Set it up, and took a family portrait of us all enjoyimg the holiday. I decided to leave it in situ, and walk around the coast taking crap photos of rocks and waves. I was never really more than 40ft away at ay given time. There were 6 of us. Anyway, after 15 minutes or so, I walked back to the car and somehow did not see or even realise I had left the tripod standing...fool :D

I am much more careful now, but I suspect, still perfectly capable of being a complete day dreaming fool.

Gary.
 
Will it not fit in the bag if you rotate the top plate over 90º, that way you could leave the QR gubbins attached.
 
Will it not fit in the bag if you rotate the top plate over 90º, that way you could leave the QR gubbins attached.

Nah, tried. It's may go, but it will damage the bag if I force it. Over time as the bag gets older, it may loosen up a little. Literally takes 10 seconds to spin it off.

Gary.
 
Regarding the slippage, that's what I was getting with the Manfrotto 486 with the D300/MB-D10 and 17/55 on it. It seems to be down to balance, the head was fine with the 70-200 as the weight was better distributed. Perhaps you'd be better with a pan and tilt head :shrug:
 
The build quality of the Gitzo is something to behold. Opening the box, it just oozes quality. The carbon is luxurious, the stainless steel, flawless. It really is made to perfection. Everything is smooth, easy to operate, and it's ever so light. I mean, it is INCREDIBLY light.


Gary.

Welcome to the world of Gitzo ... :thumbs:

I had my first one 30 years, gave it away after I got a carbon one. I would never use a Gitzo head though, their expertise is certainly in the legs.

They are not cheap, but they are worth every penny.
 
Regarding the slippage, that's what I was getting with the Manfrotto 486 with the D300/MB-D10 and 17/55 on it. It seems to be down to balance, the head was fine with the 70-200 as the weight was better distributed. Perhaps you'd be better with a pan and tilt head :shrug:

Yeah, the head is absolutely the weakest link here. I have a lovely manfrotto head, one which I have used without issue for ages now.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&sku=368216&Q=&is=REG&A=details

It's in flawless condition, and connects to the Gitzo no problem. If I can't get to grips with the default head, it's going in the box and I will just use the one I am used to.

I dunno if slipping is the right word. The camera feels stable. If I try and push it whilst holding the tripod steady, eventually the ball will rotate. It takes some doing though, it just makes me slightly concerned as I often feel that if it's NEARLY tight enough just now, it can only get looser.

Gary.
 
And BTW, how DARE you guys not comment on my pathetic attempt at Off Camera Flash! :)

Diffused flash to the left and right, and camera mounted diffused flash firing straight ahead!

Tips on improving? Should I add this to a seperate C&C thread?

Gary.
 
And BTW, how DARE you guys not comment on my pathetic attempt at Off Camera Flash! :)

Diffused flash to the left and right, and camera mounted diffused flash firing straight ahead!

Tips on improving? Should I add this to a seperate C&C thread?

Gary.

I thought you'd nicked the pic off the Gitzo website ;)
 
£900 for a tripod! :eek: :eek: :eek:

The pic is very good btw and the first thing I thought was that you had been practicing with with ocf.

Have a look at the Really Right Stuff ballheads, not cheap but they are the dogs danglies.
 
Gary, can you leave an itinerary of your beech side photo shoots ? - will be the only way I'd get my hands on one of these :p
 
Glad to see you got one, but you should have bought an ARCA SWISS ballhead. They don't slip at least the two I have never have, and one is definately getting on. The only thing they don't like is sand in them.
But how many ballheads can you send back to the manufacturers for a SERVICE !
Good luck with the new legs though and keep us informed on any problems, though you shouldn't have any !!!!
C
 
Glad to see you got one, but you should have bought an ARCA SWISS ballhead. They don't slip at least the two I have never have, and one is definately getting on. The only thing they don't like is sand in them.
But how many ballheads can you send back to the manufacturers for a SERVICE !
Good luck with the new legs though and keep us informed on any problems, though you shouldn't have any !!!!
C

To be fair, I don't think anything likes sand in it, and this Gitzo tripod head is no different. The legs, they have dealt with. The head, well as I said, the weakest link. Ball heads by design, or gonna struggle with sand. Touch wood though, never had an issue as a result of beach use with a head.

Gary.
 
I also wondered if you'd lifted the pic, but then the border etc... It's a wonderful creation Gary.

The head is a disgrace. But if you stick a good one on it, you're going to double the weight. I've never used Really Right Stuff, Acratech etc - just looked at the price and had to move to a safe distance - but that might be the answer. A D3/24-70 is going to test the best if you angle it down a bit. Shame to spoil the ship etc.

Nice review bud. I still want one :)
 
To be fair, I don't think anything likes sand in it, and this Gitzo tripod head is no different. The legs, they have dealt with. The head, well as I said, the weakest link. Ball heads by design, or gonna struggle with sand. Touch wood though, never had an issue as a result of beach use with a head.

Gary.

You want one of these:

http://acratech.net/product.php?productid=69&cat=1&page=1

It's the big daddy version of my ball head. Doesn't mind sand as it's an open design.
 
Nice purchase Gary, but I ask... will that £900 actually improve your already impressive portfolio of photographs...?
 
try a small hand held garden sprayer the pump up to spray type

leave it in the car in a plastic storage box in case it leaks

then spray your tripod down after use in the sand

its how i clean my motorbike does the job without damgeing seals etc,
 
Nice purchase Gary, but I ask... will that £900 actually improve your already impressive portfolio of photographs...?

I doubt it, I guess it will just allow me to get out more and relax at the beach. I always have this fear and reluctance when shooting in or around the shore, I just know I am slowly killing my tripod. I hope with this, I won't even think about it. Better photos thoiugh? I doubt it, it comes down to the kit vs photographer argument I guess. I think good kit helps, but it's not the be all and end all.


Liking it, did you try flagging the lights, and sorry about going offline I forgot the tab :D

No worries mate, no rules in IRC, I idle all the time in it.

maybe consider this RRS head:

http://reallyrightstuff.com/rrs/Customkititems.asp?kc=BH-25-Pro&eq=

scroll down to the bottom of page where it is shown fitted to the gitzo 1541T

its a excellent head, i have used that kit to support a canon 1d3 + canon 24-70 with no creep issues.

Thanks for the suggestion, will look at it.

try a small hand held garden sprayer the pump up to spray type

leave it in the car in a plastic storage box in case it leaks

then spray your tripod down after use in the sand

its how i clean my motorbike does the job without damgeing seals etc,

I always have lots of water in the car for the dogs, cheers mate.
 
Nice purchase and great photo, Gary :thumbs:.

I have to say, I've had a problem with ball head slippage, which has ruined some very long exposure shots :(. There's nothing more frustrating than setting everything (else) up to perfection and then waiting 8 minutes for the camera to make the exposure and process it, only to find that during that 5 minute exposure, the camera has been gradually tilting downwards and you've got a blurred image :bang:.

I know that you like your long exposures and so this is something which is going to be a really major issue for you, if it starts to happen. Afterall, there's only one sunrise/set per day, even in Edinburgh ;).

So, if I were you, I'd start researching that new ball head sooner rather than later, as it would be a terrible shame to have such a "weak link" in your 5,000GBP+ kit, when just another 100-200GBP could eliminate the chance of any ruined masterpieces :naughty:.

Good luck :thumbs:!
 
Nice purchase and great photo, Gary :thumbs:.

I have to say, I've had a problem with ball head slippage, which has ruined some very long exposure shots :(. There's nothing more frustrating than setting everything (else) up to perfection and then waiting 8 minutes for the camera to make the exposure and process it, only to find that during that 5 minute exposure, the camera has been gradually tilting downwards and you've got a blurred image :bang:.

I know that you like your long exposures and so this is something which is going to be a really major issue for you, if it starts to happen. Afterall, there's only one sunrise/set per day, even in Edinburgh ;).

So, if I were you, I'd start researching that new ball head sooner rather than later, as it would be a terrible shame to have such a "weak link" in your 5,000GBP+ kit, when just another 100-200GBP could eliminate the chance of any ruined masterpieces :naughty:.

Good luck :thumbs:!


Cheers mate,

I have the Manfrotto 468MGRC4 HYDROSTATIC BALL HEAD which will step up when required. I love this head, and have used it for pretty much all my tripod shots over the past year. It's rock solid.

468MGRC4.jpg


Gary.
 
Looks like a beautiful piece of engineering.

I use my Giottos T'pod in the surf a lot and I can understand the desire for legs that will keep out sand - but £1000???
 
So ... Has the tripod lasted ? Is it what you hoped for ? Would you recommend it to others ?

Cheers in advance.

Si
 
Why is the head so bad ? Does it creep with your D3 on it ?

I'm thinking it might be nice to take away, but also to use as alot of my shots are on a beach and the tripod I have is starting to get a bit knackered after only a few months use ?

Lots of dosh though, but I suppose cheaper when going through tripods like you did.

Cheers

Si.
 
Cheers Gary

May have to trash a few like you did before I drop more on the tripod than I did my camera, but then i could always buy a more expensive camera to level things up a bit !!!
 
Gary,

Does the tripod come on its own or can you only buy the head and legs?

Any chance of a full review mate?

When you say it creeps, does it with a wide angle like a 24mm prime and D3?

Cheers :)
 
I've been using a £50 Velbon Ultra Luxi F as my landscape tripod for 4 years, its been around the globe multiple times, and I'm always using it in sea and water and it still works fine... :shrug::nuts:
 
Hi all! And thanks a lot Gary for that image! I saw it first on Flickr, about 5 minutes after I was 99.999% certain I would get the GT1541T! Ahem. Thanks a bunch! :-/ Your awe-inspiring product shot should be used by Gitzo and they should send you a complimentary tripod methinks for adding at least one more customer to their Ocean Traveler base (me!)

Luckily, I can actually say that I will be using it in very wet and also cold climates in the future, so it should be worth it. The cost will be forgotten once it's in my possession, surely *fingers crossed*

Further, I do believe/agree that good gear makes the hobby/profession more fun and enjoyable, and as I am a sucker for perfect build-quality, which this tripod (legs) seems to be... I have tried to justify the extra cost by thinking I am getting a decent ball head for ultra-light hiking for the difference between this and the GT1541T (ok, a simplistic view, I know!), and then I just use my existing Novoflex MagicBall (which is also quite awesome) when I'm near the surf (with a car) :-) ...picking it up on Thursday.., can't wait! :-)
 
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