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I am still trying to catch up with all sorts of stuff. I bought a 'new' computer about 4 months ago, to work my drone pictures on. It is a refurbished HP Probook, I have no idea what is inside it but I was assured it would do my editing.... I have been struggling like mad to get my video edited. I think I know why I can't get very good results - this computer cannot keep up with the editing program (Resolve). When I scroll through the timeline to find the point I want to snip it at... it jumps and the delay between where my line on the video strip is and what the screen is displaying are not the same. There is a sticker on it that says Core i3, that is as much as I know about it.

I am going to go back to the computer man, and get him to give me something that works properly. One of the slots you plug things into is broken too, it was always loose.

What do I need to tell him I need. I told him what I wanted to do with it and he assured me this would fit the bill - it doesn't. DO NOT MENTION APPLES. I have very little computer ability as it is and I have never seen an Apple, so I would have no idea how to use it. I need to stick with something I have some recognition of, so it will need to be a Windows. What are the sort of things I need to ask for please?
 
Without even knowing more details, the i3 is definitely a problem. You really want a modern i7.

At the very least an i5

And you need lots of memory too.
And using a laptop is always going to be a hindrance.
 
I think that a computer with Core i3 is not going to be able to deliver good fast results with Resolve. I do not know what your budget is but I would look out for a computer with an i7 if possible.
I also think that you need to ask for a computer with an absolute minimum of 8Gb RAM although ideally, it should be 16GB of RAM.
This may end up costing you a bit more but, at the end of the day, it will help to stop you from getting really frustrated and will help to deliver the kind of performance and results that you want.
 
I have an i5 with 16GB RAM in a midi tower and it also lags in Resolve.

In my opinion you should go for a desktop with an i7 processor, 32GB RAM and a decent video card.

It's going to cost mind.
 
If you are editing with resolve it uses the GPU as well as the CPU, so you want a decent graphics card with at least 4gb memory. 16gb of ram minimum 32 preferable. . You'll also want a fast CPU so i7 or i9.

You'll also need a fast ssd drive to edit from and a large storage drive.

Laptop isnt ideal, but do able. I edit all my videos and photos on a MacBook Pro, but it cost £3500k and still sometimes struggles to edit 4k footage in resolve once you start colour grading and adding fusion elements.

You'll need either a high end gaming laptop or a enterprise type thing, most off the shelf items will have a bottleneck somewhere and might cause lagging when editing or scrubbing through footage.
 
Oddly there is no specific listing on the Black magic Resolve website of minimum PC specs!

But Google gave various other sites and this summary.......so i3 was never going to offer a solution. Hopefully you can get something from 'your computer guy' that fits the bill better?

DaVinci Resolve Minimum System Requirements
ComponentMinimum RequirementRecommended Requirement
CPUIntel Core i7 or AMD Ryzen 7Intel Core i9 or AMD Ryzen 9
RAM16GB32GB+
GPU4GB VRAM8GB+ VRAM
Media StorageSSD or RAIDSSD, Direct Attached RAID or NAS RAID (10GbE
 
What's the model number of the HP Probook? If it's one that has a socketed CPU, you could maybe get it upgraded to i5 or i7.
 
JohnX said:
Or, a lateral thought, change the video editing software for something far less demanding?
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SUCH AS.... ???

I do not like the idea of paying a rental fee. I have bought programs in the past, but then been stung when you 'download the upgrade' and they have taken what you bought back by removing it and leaving you landed with the new system. To me that is theft.
 
TCR4x4 said:
1. If you are editing with resolve it uses the GPU as well as the CPU, so you want a decent graphics card with at least 4gb memory. 16gb of ram minimum 32 preferable. . You'll also want a fast CPU so i7 or i9.

2. You'll also need a fast ssd drive to edit from and a large storage drive.

Laptop isnt ideal, but do able. I edit all my videos and photos on a MacBook Pro, but it cost £3500k and still sometimes struggles to edit 4k footage in resolve once you start colour grading and adding fusion elements.

You'll need either a high end gaming laptop or a enterprise type thing, most off the shelf items will have a bottleneck somewhere and might cause lagging when editing or scrubbing through footage.
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1. Thanks for the required specification (everyone, not just TCR, but especially TCR!)

2. What is a fast SSD? As in, how do I tell it from a slow one? Large storage drive, would a 6TB Hub plus work OK?

STREWTH! That is more than we paid for Anna's car and my motorbike (put together)!

I think I shall have to put up with 1080 and editing on the old style Movie Maker on my old computer (I still have it, but I have been warned not to attach it to the internet ever again). It is slow, I can notice the difference between it and this one even, but I can't afford that kind of money at the moment. I shall start saving and praying for some good fortune while I try to get some work. At least I now have some idea of what was wrong and what I will need... they don't warn you about these pitfalls.
 
Any ssd is fast really, so get a decent brand, decent size one, 512gb to whatever you can afford.. storage drive can be anything, just to copy files over too once you’ve completed the edit on the ssd. I can easily get 70-150gb of footage in one shoot, so it wouldn’t take long to fill the ssd, so I import to ssd, edit, export and then copy everything over to a storage drive to free up space..

Resolve will handle 1080 easily once you get something more capable, just an i3 processor is far from that, what you have is essentially a internet browser and word processor, it’s just not designed for video editing.

You can also still work in 4k, but you might find you need to transcode the footage and use proxy files, but that’s a whole other conversation to have.
 
I use VideoPad Video editor and it works very well even inside a virtual machine so it could suit you.

There is a free version which I used for quite a while until I actually became guilty at using it so much and paid for the full version!

So try it and see if it suits you.
 
twist said:
You could exceed the minimum requirement for around £600-700 if you already have a spare monitor. Don't use your pc guy for your next purchase.
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Where do I go then? He is the only person I know, unless I ride to Curries in Stoke-on-Trent, about 25 miles away, but I am not convinced they will be any better.
 
Lensflare said:
Where do I go then? He is the only person I know, unless I ride to Curries in Stoke-on-Trent, about 25 miles away, but I am not convinced they will be any better.
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There are a lot of online companies that will build you a pc with the parts you specify or a predefined custom built option. I would recommend you steer clear of a laptop for this kind of work unless you have a very large budget. First thing you need to do is decide your budget and whether that includes a monitor or not.
 
twist said:
There are a lot of online companies that will build you a pc with the parts you specify or a predefined custom built option. I would recommend you steer clear of a laptop for this kind of work unless you have a very large budget. First thing you need to do is decide your budget and whether that includes a monitor or not.
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Thanks, but I don't have anywhere to put a computer. I work off my lap in our oe room, so laptop it has to be I'm afraid - small one at that.

I have seen one in John Lewis that has an i9 processor. 32GB RAM. 2TB SSD. 15.6" screen. So not too big, I wouldn't want it any bigger. You are right, it is bloody expensive though, £2400 - at least my DACS payment will cover it. It was an HP Envy.

Any good?
 
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I will hunt them down and see what they say - I spoke to a computer shop today and told them about the Envy and they said they couldn't get anywhere near that price. That leads me to think it is an outgoing model, but as it is so vastly superior to my skills I don't suppose that will matter. They said for the spec it was a brilliant price.. somight just bite the bullet and get it ordered while I have some money in the bank. :ROFLMAO: At least with lockdown there is less demand on finances.
 
Lensflare said:
Thanks, but I don't have anywhere to put a computer. I work off my lap in our oe room, so laptop it has to be I'm afraid - small one at that.

I have seen one in John Lewis that has an i9 processor. 32GB RAM. 2TB SSD. 15.6" screen. So not too big, I wouldn't want it any bigger. You are right, it is bloody expensive though, £2400 - at least my DACS payment will cover it. It was an HP Envy.

Any good?
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Looks like a fair price - just done some searching & can't match that spec for £ on Dell outlet or Scan. You could have a look here - decent spec for £2000 https://www.chillblast.com/mobile-workstation.html?category_id=774
 
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ancient_mariner said:
Looks like a fair price - just done some searching & can't match that spec for £ on Dell outlet or Scan. You could have a look here - decent spec for £2000 https://www.chillblast.com/mobile-workstation.html?category_id=774
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I would probably go with this over the HP envy and save myself £400.
The i7 10875h is only a smidge slower in benchmarks compared to the i9 10885h in the Envy.

The chillblast laptop has a better graphics card though and the extra 2gb of VRAM of the RTX 2080 super will be of greater benefit in video rendering.
 
stupar said:
I would probably go with this over the HP envy and save myself £400.
The i7 10875h is only a smidge slower in benchmarks compared to the i9 10885h in the Envy.

The chillblast laptop has a better graphics card though and the extra 2gb of VRAM of the RTX 2080 super will be of greater benefit in video rendering.
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My computer broke, I couldn't get any internet so I bought the John Lewis one. Never mond, I am sure the computer will be far better than I am. Thanks fo rtrying to save me soe money.
 
We use polystyrene ball filled lap trays as laptop trays. They raise the lappy an inch or 2 and keep it and our laps cool.
 
Refurbished = we dusted the bits you can see.
 
I've done well with my Dell from the outlet, but would be cautious with off-brand refurbs.
 
twist said:
Won't touch dell again unless it's an XPS.
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XPS15 9530. :D

It's a year older than all these Macbooks people are starting to change because they're running slow (changing the thermal paste in a Macbook is a complete bu**er). ;)
 
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