Foma 400 pushed 2 stops in ID11

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I purchased this ID 11 developer primarily to match up with the HP5 film that I’ve also acquired with a view of pushing to 1600, maybe even 3200.

Atm though I have several sheets of Foma 400 that have been exposed at 1600.

The film does not appear to push very well, certainly not in the way that HP5 does going on the results I’ve viewed from other togs.

So as I’ve had little success with pushed Foma in hc-110 , I am going to try souping these sheets in ID11 .

The issue I have is that the massive dev chart shows times for 400 and 800 speed ( the latter being approx double time of the former) , but nothing for 1600.

Anyone tried this or can suggest a time duration?

Doubling up the time again for the extra stop makes it over a half hour so heading towards a semi stand dev.

If all else fails I’ll try for about 22 mins I think , but some feedback from personal experiences would be very much appreciated if possible.
 
I'm looking at the ID-11 data sheet, and it's a bit all over the place. There are several films with times quoted for +2 stops, but the percentage increase over the base time varies from 50% (Delta 400) to over 86% (HP5+). The majority of +2 stop times seem to be +80%.

So, if your base time is 7 minutes, that would seem to be 12 minutes 40 seconds.

(Obviously Foma 400 is not in the list, otherwise you wouldn't be asking the question)
 
Thé plot thickens. Lol

I’m not one for preciseness in the darkroom be it deving film nor making wet prints , in fact I don’t do much preciseness with any part of my togging ( there are simply too many variables that can throw out any pre studied calculations so somewhere near is good enough for me personally ) .

With this in mind I may try the first sheet somewhere between the calculations that that you have each offered..... what can possibly go wrong?!! Lol

Fortunately the sheets to soup don’t hold important images , nonetheless I would like to obtain a printable results
 
Asha said:
With this in mind I may try the first sheet somewhere between the calculations that that you have each offered..... what can possibly go wrong?!! Lol
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Given that Massive Dev. says "Please use these recommendations as starting points only. In many cases these times will prove excessive, but when all else fails they can be a good guideline."

I reckon 14 1/2 mins would be my start point.
 
Boots said:
Good luck! Please let us know how it goes.
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simon ess said:
Given that Massive Dev. says "Please use these recommendations as starting points only. In many cases these times will prove excessive, but when all else fails they can be a good guideline."

I reckon 14 1/2 mins would be my start point.
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Only exposed one sheet but the result looks very promising:


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Foma 400 @ 1600 in ID11 Stock solution for 15mins 20C

The scan ( tomorrow hopefully) will show just how good or not the result really is but for a first attempt with a new developer i'm rather impressed.

Many thanks for your help guys ;)
 
Yeah I was rather pleased when I took it out of the tank tbh

Definetly a decent tonal range and contrast looks ok too.

Interesting that there's no time for foma at 1600 on the MDC for ID11 as I'm sure that i aint the first person to try it.
 
I'll probably soup another sheet tomorrow to see if i get a similar result ......Of course there are other variables that might affect the other exposures but if they come out anything like this one then the ID11 works better than HC110 for pushed film.
 
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