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Hi folks, hope all is well.

I was thinking of buying a flash for my camera as the tutor on the course I am on said they are a worth while investment and we shall use them in the more advanced classes (I am on the beginner class currently).

I was looking at a Canon one to ensure it works, but I am open to third party ones if they can trigger automatically (if that's the correct terminology).

I was thinking about the small Speedlite el -100 but could stretch to the next one up ( canon SL 430 ex 111 RT) if it is really worth it?
 
Got an old 430EX I use on my R5 - and it's a relatively compact flash overall, takes 4 double AA batteries though, so you've got an idea for size. I used it many moons ago on an M3/M6 and had no issues...
 
I’d go 430ex too

question though: does the M50 have a built in flash that’ll trigger the 430 remotely?
 
No idea lol.

It has a small flash already that you have to lift up when in auto.

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable who owns one could let us know.

To be honest, my goal was to learn everything I could on this camera and then one day, switch over to a FF camera, keeping this one for holidays etc as it's small. That's why I was wondering if there were flashes that work on all camera models. I'm not committed to one brand over another and have read a lot of good things regarding the Sony FF cameras, so may even switch over to another brand in future years.
 
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Adamcski said:
No idea lol.

It has a small flash already that you have to lift up when in auto.

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable who owns one could let us know.

To be honest, my goal was to learn everything I could on this camera and then one day, switch over to a FF camera, keeping this one for holidays etc as it's small. That's why I was wondering if there were flashes that work on all camera models. I'm not committed to one brand over another and have read a lot of good things regarding the Sony FF cameras, so may even switch over to another brand in future years.
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Well that’s a different question (or 2).
1 the simple answer is that each manufacturer has its own TTL protocols, and the mounts are different. So a Canon flash won’t work on a Sony.

2 Godox flashes and triggers have their own protocol thats camera agnostic, so you could start building a Godox flash system with Csnon, then just buy a Sony transmitter, and it’ll control your Godox canon mount speedlights used off camera.
3. I kept an M5 for travel, but compared to the bigger camera becomes a bit of a liability, however if you really want to go for it, staying with Canon for FF mirrorless is a neater option, here’s why.

Other than the 22mm and the 35mm macro, the M mount lenses are rubbish. So your M mount system might as well be built on EF lenses. Those lenses will just become better versions of themselves on an R mount camera. The R6 particularly is fab.

Shorter answer:
If you just want a decent cheap flash for the M50; the canon 430ex is the best option. But if you want to buy your first flash that fits into a system, the Godox range is the way to go (but the small TT350 is terribly frustrating, so you’ll need a bigger flash)
 
Great response many thanks.

Could you just clarify this bit:

I kept an M5 for travel, but compared to the bigger camera becomes a bit of a liability.

The M50 becomes the liability or the FF camera?

Might just be better sticking with canon then (I'd already looked at the R6..but I'm trying to avoid the human desire to rush out and purchase the next new shiny thing prior to learning more anyway).
 
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Great response many thanks.

Could you just clarify this bit:

I kept an M5 for travel, but compared to the bigger camera becomes a bit of a liability.

The M50 becomes the liability or the FF camera?

Might just be better sticking with canon then (I'd already looked at the R6..but I'm trying to avoid the human desire to rush out and purchase the next new shiny thing prior to learning more anyway).
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The M5 feels like a great idea as a travel camera, it’s small and light, but I find I’m no more likely to carry it around than a bigger camera, and it’s just different enough to my DSLR’s that it’s never quite felt like it belongs, I never built the muscle memory for it. I love it in theory, but in practice I’d never ‘choose’ it over the other cameras.

Whereas ten minutes setting up the R6 I had on test drive to behave like my DSLR’s and it felt like one of the family. It’ll sound like hyperbole; but the R6 is the most perfect camera I’ve ever used.
 
I'd already wish listed the R6 and a couple of lenses into an online basket at canon..£3700 ish .

I just need to learn how it all works and spend time enjoying what I have (although it will be limited Vs other cameras I get that).

No point in my eyes rushing out to spend that money and then still not knowing what to do with it
 
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The 35mm 1.4 and the 11-22mm are both excellent lenses.
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Yes the 32mm arrived after I’d decided to stop buying any more M lenses, but I would have liked that.

I didn’t believe the 11-22 was excellent though, I could be wrong but I don’t recall hearing anyone singing it’s praises at the time. I’d also admit that WA isn’t my preferred focal length.
 
Adamcski said:
I'd already wish listed the R6 and a couple of lenses into an online basket at canon..£3700 ish .

I just need to learn how it all works and spend time enjoying what I have (although it will be limited Vs other cameras I get that).

No point in my eyes rushing out to spend that money and then still not knowing what to do with it
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This ^, use what you have and only once you have discovered it's limitations for your 'type'(?) of photography consider adding and/or upgrading to bodies with greater functionality to resolve those limitations.

Stating the obvious ? ;)
 
I still need a flash though :)

I know my set up is a lesser one and anticipate some negative comments regarding it, however it is great for my needs currently and I can always upgrade in the future.
 
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I still need a flash though :)

I know my set up is a lesser one and anticipate some negative comments regarding it, however it is great for my needs currently and I can always upgrade in the future.
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Nowt wrong with your setup, just because some cameras are ‘better’ than others, doesn’t mean yours isn’t capable of great images.

The key is realising what ‘better’ means, what your needs are, what the limitations of your kit is.

I shot weddings professionally for years with a sensor (and an AF system) not as good as the M50 II

the biggest issue for flash with the m50 is the small body of the camera, any decent sized flash overbalances it, even a decent trigger is top heavy.

this is my M5 which I think is a similar size, to illustrate.

8B598667-C077-4893-BE6A-065DBC6B6039.jpegThe Canon 430ex is about the smallest usable flash and it’ll be unwieldy (420 attached)

the Godox TT350 runs on 2 AA’s and can’t recycle fast enough for ‘normal’ use, but is the perfect size.
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here’s a ‘normal sized’ flash
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and this is the Godox trigger
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hope this helps
 
Just to say thanks for all the information. I've picked up a speedlite 430 ex iii RT from John Lewis with 20% off. Might be a bit big for the M50 mk ii, but I can grow into it as I get better and inevitably upgrade to FF in future.
 
Adamcski said:
Just to say thanks for all the information. I've picked up a speedlite 430 ex iii RT from John Lewis with 20% off. Might be a bit big for the M50 mk ii, but I can grow into it as I get better and inevitably upgrade to FF in future.
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The 430 is the smallest practical speedlight anyway.
 
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