fitting filters a struggle?

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hi all been trying a tiffen filter out this weekend,but found it a bit fiddling to get the threads started,then when it does it flies on,does anybody else struggle fitting filters, 77mm thread by the way,do they get easier with use thanks
 
Hi, Same with ALL screw threads! People tend to try and screw in the clockwise direction first and this in a lot of cases causes the cross threading so just try turning the filter a little in the wrong direction so that the threads align then screw on as normal, don't try and force it on.
Russ
 
As points made above. Also it might have a poorly-made or slightly damaged entry thread - examine it with a hand lens. Correct with a needle file if necessary. Check the lens thread too.
 
thanks guys for all replies,like the pencil idea anyone else doing this
 
russellsnr said:
Hi, Same with ALL screw threads! People tend to try and screw in the clockwise direction first and this in a lot of cases causes the cross threading so just try turning the filter a little in the wrong direction so that the threads align then screw on as normal, don't try and force it on.
Russ
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This^

TBH that advice applied to doing up anything threaded, I even do it to bottle tops!
 
I prefer the square filters,just slide in & out.:):thumbs:
 
The graphite trick is a good one. Best trick though, is to go through your filters, and chuck any made of aluminium. The have a nasty habit of jamming onto even the cleanest of threads, and can have to be released forcibly. Brass filters won't stick, and thread on beautifully.
 
dougdarter said:
The graphite trick is a good one. Best trick though, is to go through your filters, and chuck any made of aluminium. The have a nasty habit of jamming onto even the cleanest of threads, and can have to be released forcibly. Brass filters won't stick, and thread on beautifully.
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Rather an expensive solution, even if it was true. Which it isn't.
 
It's not an expensive solution at all. A seized aluminium filter, which has to be forced from an expensive lens, is an expensive problem, which can be mitigated by using a brass filter.

My assertion that brass is far less likely to seize IS true. t is not merely anecdotal. A quick web search finds many articles regarding this subject, and the consensus, from lens and filter manufacturers, from pro's and amateurs seems to support my statement, and is both objective and empirical. Brass is best.
 
dougdarter said:
It's not an expensive solution at all. A seized aluminium filter, which has to be forced from an expensive lens, is an expensive problem, which can be mitigated by using a brass filter.

My assertion that brass is far less likely to seize IS true. t is not merely anecdotal. A quick web search finds many articles regarding this subject, and the consensus, from lens and filter manufacturers, from pro's and amateurs seems to support my statement, and is both objective and empirical. Brass is best.
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I've never jammed a filter in 40 years. A poorly threaded filter is a poorly threaded filter, whatever it's made of, and brass will jam like any other if cross-threaded. If brass has any advantageous properties in this respect, you'd think that manufacturers would not then finish them in black. You'd also expect B+W, as one of the few filter manufacturers to use brass, to mention this in their literature, but they don't https://www.schneideroptics.com/pdfs/filters/WorldOfFilters.pdf
 
The usual reason filters stick on is over tightening and I've had it happen with brass, aluminium and plastic filters. A tiny bit of 2B pencil lead will help the OP with fitting them, as will the backing off a bit before fitting trick.

The reason I used to over tighten filters was that I used to keep warm up filters fitted back in film days and didn't want them to fall off. These days, I fit filters only when I need them so just nipped up is tight enough. Since it tends to only be pols that I use these days, I always make sure I adjust the angle in an anticlockwise direction (from camera side) so I don't end up undoing the filter from the thread!
 
A couple of cheap plastic filter removers usually help me remove overtightened filters (look for filter wrench on ebay). I've always done what Russel suggests, backwards first till you find the thread
 
Another free option to help remove stuck filters is to wrap an elastic band tightly around the filter. This gives you added grip when you try to turn the filter. Worked great for me when I had a stuck filter recently.
 
The trick with over-tightened filters is not to squeeze them when trying to get them apart. This distorts the rim by an imperceptible amount, especially slim-mount ones (including brass ;)) and locks the threads. Rubber bands or those grippy plastic things used for opening jars work well by spreading the load around the rim more evenly. If all else fails, try a filter wrench £3 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Filter-Remo...&qid=1386532370&sr=1-8&keywords=filter+wrench
 
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HoppyUK said:
The trick with over-tightened filters is not to squeeze them when trying to get them apart. This distorts the rim by an imperceptible amount, especially slim-mount ones (including brass ;)) and locks the threads. Rubber bands or those grippy plastic things used for opening jars work well by spreading the load around the rim more evenly. If all else fails, try a filter wrench £3 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Filter-Removal-Wrench-62mm-Filters/dp/B00AIQCHY8/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1386532370&sr=1-8&keywords=filter wrench
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i wish i had them on tight ,my problem is getting it on in the first place:lol:
 
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