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Right, I now have a rolleiflex T (v3) in my grubby hands. I am not sure what to do film wise though. For 35mm I only use acros (dev in rodinal) and HP5+ (dev in whatever comes to hand but likely to be D76 or HC110) now, having tested a few different films. Now, do I go for the same films in 120 or try out some others? The acros I have seen in 120 is beautiful, smooth and sharp and HP5+ looks good too. Cost wise when purchased in bulk they don't work out too badly either.

So, what to do? Stick with the films I have chosen in 35mm or go through all of the films again in 120 and see what I prefer?
 
I'd not give you an argument on the choice of Acros on 120... it's lovely stuff. Tbh, if it already works for you, then why change ? you've (hopefully) got a handle on the processing and scanning already, so it's just a matter of working with bigger negs, of the same stuff...
 
TheBigYin said:
I'd not give you an argument on the choice of Acros on 120... it's lovely stuff. Tbh, if it already works for you, then why change ? you've (hopefully) got a handle on the processing and scanning already, so it's just a matter of working with bigger negs, of the same stuff...
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Agreed, I am fairly happy with my process for both films really, just need to settle down on a dev for HP5+ that allows me to get what I want at iso 400 and when I push too- looks like its going to be D76 or HC110 from my research so far.

I have only really asked the question as I may well take a trip to silverprint at lunchtime and grab some 120. The HP5+ gets 25% off if you buy 10 or more and works out about £36.
 
Why not have a play around.... Fomopan and Adox CHS art are two films I regularly use....cheapo film in comparison to ilford etc and I suspect it shows in the end result but could be fun trying them out.....only one way to find out if you like them or not!!!
 
Asha said:
Why not have a play around.... Fomopan and Adox CHS art are two films I regularly use....cheapo film in comparison to ilford etc and I suspect it shows in the end result but could be fun trying them out.....only one way to find out if you like them or not!!!
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I guess grabbing a couple of the more esoteric makes wouldn't break the bank. :)
 
To be honest, and I think I may have said this before - I personally don't really like HP5+ that much - though that could well be my (somewhat strange for a film shooter) aversion to grain. I only really shoot sub-400 film, unless the situation dictates i have to - and I'm more likely to push FP4+ a couple of stops than use HP5+...

I know it's popular film, and if you like it in 35mm, it'll be not dissimilar in 120 - though the "percieved grain" may well be a little less obtrusive.

This is all based on fairly standard processing of course - I don't do any of that experimental stuff using household chemicals or leaving things to stand still for yonks etc. which all the enthusiasts are probably going to pile in with now.

Frankly, I shoot so little film (or anything else at the moment) due to time constraints, that I really haven't got scope for that kind of experimentation. I need something I can look at the bottle/my existing cheat sheets to refresh my memory of how I did the last roll 6 months ago!
 
TheBigYin said:
To be honest, and I think I may have said this before - I personally don't really like HP5+ that much - though that could well be my (somewhat strange for a film shooter) aversion to grain. I only really shoot sub-400 film, unless the situation dictates i have to - and I'm more likely to push FP4+ a couple of stops than use HP5+...

I know it's popular film, and if you like it in 35mm, it'll be not dissimilar in 120 - though the "percieved grain" may well be a little less obtrusive.

This is all based on fairly standard processing of course - I don't do any of that experimental stuff using household chemicals or leaving things to stand still for yonks etc. which all the enthusiasts are probably going to pile in with now.

Frankly, I shoot so little film (or anything else at the moment) due to time constraints, that I really haven't got scope for that kind of experimentation. I need something I can look at the bottle/my existing cheat sheets to refresh my memory of how I did the last roll 6 months ago!
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Mark, I am the same with processing- its all done with stuff manufactured for that reason and I won't do much more than look at the massive dev chart the first time and make my own little adjustments here and there dependant on the results I have had before- a little change in time or number of inversions really. I keep my notebook up to date with how things have gone and use that as a reference.

I actually like HP5+ and the grain it gives and often find myself having to use faster film anyway and have had fairly good reults at 1600, better than I did with neopan 1600 anyway! ;)
 
now - shooting at 1600 - that's where I'd be loading HP5+ tbh :lol: probably for a "grain like hailstones - shooting a band in a badly lit pub" kind of dealio!
 
TheBigYin said:
now - shooting at 1600 - that's where I'd be loading HP5+ tbh :lol: probably for a "grain like hailstones - shooting a band in a badly lit pub" kind of dealio!
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The grain is a bit big, I'll give you that! ;) Was worse with Neopan 1600, along with less exposure latitiude and poorer contrast. Then again it might have been my amateurish developing and shooting! :p
 
menthel said:
The grain is a bit big, I'll give you that! ;) Was worse with Neopan 1600, along with less exposure latitiude and poorer contrast. Then again it might have been my amateurish developing and shooting! :p
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Mmmm quite fancy the idea of "hailstone grain"...could be an interesting result.....shot at 1600, what's the adjustment for the dev time of HP5 ( don't mean to hyjack the thread..sorry Jim!)
 
menthel said:
I would have to check my notebook to be sure but it looks like I did it in rodinal 1:25 and developed at 20 degrees for 12 minutes (from my massive dev chart app saved recipes bit).

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=376091 The results are in this thread- in fact I think all of the piccies are in flickr too.
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Thanks for that Jim.....I like the grainy results that you got....I would be using LC29 Dev but gunna give it a whirl .....

To add to the Adox chs that I mentioned ,If you want minimal grain then there is the 25 ISO I'm not 100% sure that it's available in 120 format but I've used sheet versions.
Supposedly it won't tolerant exposure error which puts some people off using it, but I've never had a problem and I've missjudged the metering several times!

I doubt it would push very well though!
 
Asha said:
Thanks for that Jim.....I like the grainy results that you got....I would be using LC29 Dev but gunna give it a whirl .....

To add to the Adox chs that I mentioned ,If you want minimal grain then there is the 25 ISO I'm not 100% sure that it's available in 120 format but I've used sheet versions.
Supposedly it won't tolerant exposure error which puts some people off using it, but I've never had a problem and I've missjudged the metering several times!

I doubt it would push very well though!
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Thanks. The grain on mine is partly due to the dev I think. The Ilfosol 3 was a completely wrong choice but the rodinal worked quite well- the grain is obvious but not huge and the photos sharp enough. I would do that again if I needed to.

I think LC-29 will probably give smaller grain but still have good contrast and sharpness- it won't look the same as the rodinal though.
 
If you fancy trying something different grab a few rolls of the fomapan 400, if you hate it I'll buy 'em off you because I quite like it in 120.
 
If you want to try something really different then Rollei ATP is very very nice. It's a bit like old Tech Pan from kodak when processed properly, which is in it's own special developer or in 1:300 Rodinal. I'm trying a few rolls at the moment and I think I like it quite a bit :thumbs:
 
Well, went for a wander and came back with 10x acros, 10x hp5+, a 1l plastic bottle, hc110 and a pouch of rodinal! Oops!
 
I'll bung a roll of Fomapan 100 in the post for you Jim, i don't get on with it any more but i still have some lying around
 
I use Tri-X for 120 mostly (sometimes HP5 rated at ISO24 if I've got a tripod and am feeling patient). I'd try something you like but is usually too grainy in 35mm.
 
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