Files opened in Lightroom look worse than when opened in DPP - how do I fix this?

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When I open raw files in Lightroom they initially look as I expect (probably it's using the preview JPEG basked into the raw file) and then within a second they change to something less appealing. When I open the same file in DPP it doesn't change.

I'm using a Canon 6D, Lightroom 6 and DPP4.

This screen grab shows what I mean. On the left is DPP, Lightroom is on the right. The DPP file is more saturated (over saturated but that's not the point) and exposure looks different. I'd prefer to be using Lightroom but starting the editing process with the file looking as shown in DPP. Anyone got any suggestions what is happening here and what I could do do fix it?

Thanks in advance! :)

 
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Yep, a typical colour space issue!
 
Kodiak Qc said:
Yep, a typical colour space issue!
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Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure I agree though, if I was seeing it in exported converted files then a different colour space would make sense, but this is right at the beginning of the development process and as at this stage both apps are just trying to show the user what the raw data looks like based on each of their conversion algorithms.

I'm pretty sure DPP is doing something that LR6 isn't but I'm not sure what. Thoughts anyone?
 
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Still, are they both opening the file
in the same colour space?
 
DPP recognises your picture styles and will apply those. Lightroom does not.

When you shoot with a picture style be it standard, landscape, vivid, neutral etc that setting is baked into the jpg file hence why you see what you are expecting initially in Lightroom. Once LR loads the actual raw image it doesn't know about canon settings, whereas DPP does and will apply them.

You can get Lightroom to apply a profile on import which may help you get the results you are expecting on import.
If you look under calibration in the develop module you can apply a profile which LR has made as close as possible to Canon settings.

You can't apply these profiles on import, but you can create a preset which can be applied on import.
 
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ecoleman said:
DPP recognises your picture styles and will apply those. Lightroom does not.
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Actually, the OEM software recognizes and applies/can apply all of the camera jpeg settings to the raw file automatically. The only way to get close to the same result w/ LR is to create a default develop preset that gets applied to the images upon import (you can use camera calibration/profile as part of your default preset).
 
ecoleman said:
DPP recognises your picture styles and will apply those. Lightroom does not.

When you shoot with a picture style be it standard, landscape, vivid, neutral etc that setting is baked into the jpg file hence why you see what you are expecting initially in Lightroom. Once LR loads the actual raw image it doesn't know about canon settings, whereas DPP does and will apply them.

You can get Lightroom to apply a profile on import which may help you get the results you are expecting on import.
If you look under calibration in the develop module you can apply a profile which LR has made as close as possible to Canon settings.

You can apply these profiles on import, but you can create a preset which can be applied on import.
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sk66 said:
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Actually, the OEM software recognizes and applies/can apply all of the camera jpeg settings to the raw file automatically. The only way to get close to the same result w/ LR is to create a default develop preset that gets applied to the images upon import (you can use camera calibration/profile as part of your default preset).
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Thanks both, I've somehow changed the picture style to landscape rather than my usual neutral. I'd not realised that LR has those options in Camera Calibration, I've never used any of the controls in that area before, it's useful to know about.

Turns out I've got Auto Lighting Optimizer on as well which is further changing the contrast settings. Again I've no idea when I turned that on!
 
SixToes said:
Thanks both, I've somehow changed the picture style to landscape rather than my usual neutral. I'd not realised that LR has those options in Camera Calibration, I've never used any of the controls in that area before, it's useful to know about.

Turns out I've got Auto Lighting Optimizer on as well which is further changing the contrast settings. Again I've no idea when I turned that on!
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ALO's on in the cameras by default (IIRC).
 
Camera Calibration is one of the difference, it's color setting. sharpening and noise reduction is also different. DPP apply default aftereffects. You can adjust picture with your method.
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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…just investigating possible avenues!
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I would not rule out what kodiak has said without checking.

Lightroom uses pro photo rgb for its library and Adobe rgb for its develop module to display (independently of your files import or export profiles). There is a chance dpp shows as srgb and throw in the monitors own, possibly uncalibrated, profile and difference are possible.

My bet is that it is lr choosing Adobe standard instead of the OP's usual canon camera profile.
 
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