F*^&%~$ Royal Mail!

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Striking again! :bang:

Apparently none of us will get any mail until WEDNESDAY next week at the earliest now :'(

Yep, my work cheque, which I desperately need to pay bills has not come yet. It should have come yesterday or today ... but nada.

Do they not understand that it's OK making alternative provisions for those who don't work for what ever reason, but there are working people out there that need their cheques just as much if not more than some of those on benefits? :bang::bang:

A friend of mine is in a sticky situation too, she is waiting on her university loan coming through, plus her work cheque (she works for the same company as me), she hasn't even got enough to get the bus to Uni. And her rent is already over due too.


For any of you needing info go here: http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/content1?catId=1000002&mediaId=51600692&campaignid=update

And let me also tell you that if you get the idea that you can go and collect your mail at the sorting office yourself, you're wrong :( Apparently they won't be letting anyone do that, no matter what the circumstance ~ believe me I tried.
 
I know, pain in the neck! The last one caused us no end of issues, and the backlog is only just cleared before they start another. What really bugs me is that RM is already losing business to other delivery companies, hence they have to stream line and make themselves more efficient, ultimately they are a business, they have to make some kind of profit. If the workers strike over pay and job cuts, more people will turn to other more reliable suppliers, and that will lead to more frikkin job cuts. Get a grip!! Job cuts and post office closures are not good, I understand that and fully sympathise, and we all feel underpaid at some time or another, but WHY cut off your nose just to spite your face? Beats me, I know that!

Jo, there is a lot to be said for electronic banking, cash transfers, etc.... :bang:
 
You have my sympathy Jo. I run my own printing business and we send out hard copy proofs to customers via Royal Mail. I will have to spend £8.50 per proof to send it via next day courier to make sure my customers don't suffer a downturn in service from me :annoyed:
 
Grendel said:
You have my sympathy Jo. I run my own printing business and we send out hard copy proofs to customers via Royal Mail. I will have to spend £8.50 per proof to send it via next day courier to make sure my customers don't suffer a downturn in service from me :annoyed:
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Im not sure you can make it any lower :p :lol:
 
parcel2go.com are offering a cheap service. I've used them to send stuff I've sold on ebay. They use DHL couriers and I've had no come backs yet.
 
I got an Uncle who is ill at the moment so I want to send him a get well card. The earliest he'll probably get it is next Thursday due to another strike starting almost immediately after this one.

Why can't they sort this out or can't Gordon Brown bang their heads together?
 
the people at royal mail have no sympathy from me, sick of them striking and causing disruption, the only people that loose out are us the general public and lets face it, annoying the populus isnt going to win you any support from them. and its only going to be a matter of time before one of the other courier and parcel delivery companys seems the gap in the market and brings in there own mail service and bang, royal mail will be up **** creek without a paddle.


and telling jo that BACS is great isnt exactly helpful, you cant usually change the way your employer pays you!

the thing that amuses me more is the fact that if you kill off mail deliverys for a week people will find new means to communicate, be it email, a different courier etc, and as such royal mail is gonna loose revenue so is not likely to be able to give them what they want!
 
It`s not royal mail that`s instigating the strike action though, is it? It`s down to the unions.
 
Royal Mail's Special Delivery is still available. It's only normal mail apparently or so they said on the radio this morning.
 
I run my own firm, and whilst alot of payments are BACS based, there is still a substantial amount of cheques that arrive via post. The way this is going, alot of firms that pay that way will move over to BACS. So there`s another load of business that the mail`s lost.

Totally mental.
 
I don't have a choice on the way I get paid unfortunately. My agent/boss did try to get them out early to avoid this, but for some reason I still didn't get it in time. In fact for some reason we don't seem to get any post on a Monday or Tuesday these days :shrug:

I'll be OK, I'm just really really ****ed at the fact we will probably end up going to the in laws for a sub until my cheque does get here, and then I'll have to go get it cashed at Cash Converters too, which will cost us an extra £50 +. Grrrrr.

Oh well, come Wednesday (actually make that Thursday, as Wednesday will be hectic :lol:) all will be good again.
 
nilagin said:
Royal Mail's Special Delivery is still available. It's only normal mail apparently or so they said on the radio this morning.
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Really? our local post office has been told nothing will be delivered.
 
No sympathy from me, I can't stand unions. If they don't like the way the job is going they know where the door is, go find another.
 
My sympathies to all those impacted.

The odd thing about this is that the Royal Mail staff are striking because of the changes that are required to be brought in now that there is competition in the postal market for all types of mail so that the Royal Mail management can secure the business for their future. If the staff carry on at this rate they are handing their business and their jobs to the competition on a plate :cuckoo:

Yes I am sure there will be some jobs at risk but I would bet that as far as possible the RM management will be aiming that if there are job losses they will be though "natural wastage" (that's retirements and resignations in management speak) it a lot cheaper than making redundancies. And I am sure we would all like to have a pay rise and go back to a good final salary pension - but sorry the world has changed live with it - I have to. If you want someone to blame it's the government - Gordon Brown caused the pensions crisis and the governement opened up the mail to competition because Europe told them to :shrug:

<getting off soap box now - before I get pelted with rotten fruit>

During the last strike I did get a parcel that was sent by RM Special Delivery :clap:

Pain was I thought it wouldn't arrive so I went out only to find "that" card on the mat when I got home. :shake:

Double pain as it was my nifty fifty and I missed out on a whole weekend of shooting. :bang: :bang: :bang:
 
Kev M said:
No sympathy from me, I can't stand unions. If they don't like the way the job is going they know where the door is, go find another.
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I have to say that I agree with this. When unions were first created within the mining community way back when, it was for much different reasons that the ones they use today. I mean in those days getting more pay out of a company or betting working conditions was a matter of life or death. Otherwise their families would starve to death (and they did!) or the main bread winners would be killed at work due to poor working conditions, which probably would have triggered the other anyway.

There is no way in hell that would be the case today. unions these days seem to be used for nothing but blackmailing companies into better pay so they can afford luxuries. Or using a strike as an excuse for more time off than they get paid for annually ... the amount of times I have worked within a company and heard the every day Joe say "A strike you say? Ah, why not, I could use some time off!"... And in doing so in publican services like this they prevent every day people like moi getting the necessities. OK I won't starve, but life could be made very difficult for me, and those like me.

/End of second rant for the day :lol:
 
I have loads of sympathy for Royal Mail - I had a letter arrive the other day that was sent from Manchester 2 months ago. From the time it has taken to arrive I can only assume that it was carried by hand all the way, by some poor sod with no legs and who doesnt have a wheelchair who wanted to help reduce my carbon foot print. Surely he deserves a pay rise!! That's way above the call of duty!!

Or maybe they are all just a bunch of useless ****.
 
Foggy said:
I have loads of sympathy for Royal Mail - I had a letter arrive the other day that was sent from Manchester 2 months ago. From the time it has taken to arrive I can only assume that it was carried by hand all the way, by some poor sod with no legs and who doesnt have a wheelchair who wanted to help reduce my carbon foot print. Surely he deserves a pay rise!! That's way above the call of duty!!

Or maybe they are all just a bunch of useless ****.
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if i had a mouthful of coffee i believe it would be trickling down my laptop screen around about now!
 
Royal Mail are a useless bunch of t****s for the most part. Considering I live well within the M25 we get 3, maybe 4 mail deliveries a week if we're exceptionally lucky - and that will be around midday. We also seem to end up with most of my neighbours post which I'm bored of taking round myself so I have started writing little sarcastic notes on the letters and putting it back in the letterbox for them to redeliver.

Oh and there's no such thing as 1st class round here. Everything takes at least 3 days regardless of how much you've paid in stamps.

Bloody workshy slackers should just get back to work, just like the effing tube drivers.
 
Bloody workshy slackers should just get back to work, just like the effing tube drivers.
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You should run for office Ross... you'd get my vote:thumbs:
 
Did any one say "Royal Pain".......... :lol:

Can't even encourage to privatise. See the state of our trains.... :bang::bonk:
 
Kev M said:
No sympathy from me, I can't stand unions. If they don't like the way the job is going they know where the door is, go find another.
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So if you had paid into a pension fund for years then found out there was no money in it for your retirement because your employer had spent your pension fund on other things, you would just say oh well and get another job.

Gordon Brown has taken money out of the Royal Mail pensions and spent it on other things, just like he steals 5 billion a year out of private pensions.

This labour government has opened up the mail market to completion from Europe ahead of time and before any other European country has opened their markets, so European company's can come here but royal mail can't go there.

Who wants to stop Sunday collections, who wants to shut down post offices not the unions that for sure.

Gordon Brown wants to keep inflation low and he is doing this by giving the post worker and other civil servants staged and below inflation rises. The police are now taking legal advice to see if they can withdraw their labour or work to rule.


It's fine having a nice job with a nice boss, but when your being screwed left right and centre it's the unions that will stand with you and fight.
 
Ross said:
..........just like the effing tube drivers.
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Now there's a rant that could keep me going till Christmas.

When they started their big round of strikes several years back I was working in a commercial darkroom. While they were whinging that they needed more money because being in the dark isn't always very nice, I was doing twice the hours (and there is no daylight bit at either end of a darkroom like there is on a tube line) for about half the money.

Added to that that I had to spend four or more hours of my day getting to and from my dark job while they sat on their backsides. You can imagine how supportive I was to the cause. :lol:
 
whiteflyer said:
So if you had paid into a pension fund for years then found out there was no money in it for your retirement because your employer had spent your pension fund on other things, you would just say oh well and get another job.

Gordon Brown has taken money out of the Royal Mail pensions and spent it on other things, just like he steals 5 billion a year out of private pensions.

This labour government has opened up the mail market to completion from Europe ahead of time and before any other European country has opened their markets, so European company's can come here but royal mail can't go there.

Who wants to stop Sunday collections, who wants to shut down post offices not the unions that for sure.

Gordon Brown wants to keep inflation low and he is doing this by giving the post worker and other civil servants staged and below inflation rises. The police are now taking legal advice to see if they can withdraw their labour or work to rule.


It's fine having a nice job with a nice boss, but when your being screwed left right and centre it's the unions that will stand with you and fight.
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:agree:

Would be a useless strike if it didnt effect anyone. Yeah its annoying, but it is people fighting for the livelyhoods, pentions and jobs. So we get some late post........at least they are in a position to get their message accross.
 
one good thing has come out of this, there can't be any other people striking as their ballot papers won't be delievered :nuts:
 
i'm not bothered at all about this.

I'm only expecting bills this coming week any way :D

Totally agree about them shooting themselves in the foot with this course of action, TNT mail and the likes will be straight in :)

Paul.......£8.50 each customer :eek:........i'll send a gimp round and do it for £6.50 an item.
 
I sent my 40d back to the shop today, they sent to to me by courier and it cost the £8.00, I did RM Special delivery and it was £20 - something tells me they are pricing themselves out the market now.
 
They've been told their pensions are safe. The only change will be to the pension of people who join the company after the date of the change to the rules. As for people fighting for their jobs, perhaps the reason the job posts are being scrapped is because the company is bloated and needs to streamline to become competetive.

The armed forces have been through it all for the last ten years and we don't have the luxury of trade unions to hide behind. Instead we're the ones expected to step in and bail the others out (step forward you lazy firepersons). Don't like what's happening? Dry your eyes and move on.
 
although the whole situation is costing me money, and tbh i dont really have an opinion on whether they should be on strike or not, but i certainly think unions have their place. if any of you guys have been screwed over by employers who think they can get away with murder (as most do) you'll know that unions are your only defence.
 
rwotton said:
I sent my 40d back to the shop today, they sent to to me by courier and it cost the £8.00, I did RM Special delivery and it was £20 - something tells me they are pricing themselves out the market now.
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I sent my 30D to fixation by RM Special delivery and it was £6.55 including £1000 insurance cover so not sure why it cost you £20, also kerso sends all his stuff RM Special delivery and he only charges £10.
 
rwotton said:
I sent my 40d back to the shop today, they sent to to me by courier and it cost the £8.00, I did RM Special delivery and it was £20 - something tells me they are pricing themselves out the market now.
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RMSD £1000 compo up to 2kg = £8.30
RMSD £1000 compo up to 10kg = £20.00

Did you put a brick in the return package?


I rely on the mail for one of my businesses. So I'm taking the week off. It's just the excuse I need to go on hols. But if it continues it could cause some serious cash-flow embarassment :(
 
LOL. The Royal Mail had a monopoly for years. Well now they have rivals offering people real alternatives, which is what's behind their current difficulties and job cuts. They're just on a total self destruct course. :shrug:
 
CT said:
LOL. The Royal Mail had a monopoly for years. Well now they have rivals offering people real alternatives, which is what's behind their current difficulties and job cuts. They're just on a total self destruct course. :shrug:
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Which other company will take a letter from Lands End to John oGroats for 34p .

None
 
last thing i knew, Royal Mail actually still delever or handle the post for these other parties like TNT, so there be effected too. courier service only then

RM are being made te new bt, where they installed operated the telephone exchange then told that any tom dick and harry could use the product they invested heavily in to sell there own product though.

take read of this.

Royal Mail delivers 99.8% of the licensed letters in the UK (including all the mail TNT Post handles) and sets both wholesale and retail prices. By closing the gap between wholesale prices and retail prices and reducing margin headroom, Royal Mail could severely restrict the competitive landscape and prevent business customers, large and small, from enjoying the benefits of competition

http://www.tntpost.co.uk/News_and_E...s_on_Postcomm_to_proctect_margin_squeeze.html
 
russdaz is spot on

and special delivery is one of the best value and best services there is. I use UPS for big stuff, and special delivery for expensive small stuff.

i've been listening to LBC this morning who have been chatting about the postal strike, and although i'm losing money this week because of it i've decided i'm 100% behind the postal workers. The bosses are trying to rip them off and they are doing something about it. good luck to them.

on other interesting point is that Ken Livingstone said that he told royal mail that they could be excluded from the congestion charge so long as some of the savings were passed on to the workers, and the bosses turned him down.
 
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