Experimenting with cross processing C41 with E6.... Round 2

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So... again I have cross processed a roll of Agfa Vista 200 with E6 ....
Taken with the Nikon F4

For this attempt I opted to just develop as per normal E6(no stand developing)... however the whole roll was shot with a +2/3 EV.... it was also a bright sunny day....(this may not have been the best thing to do, as I struggled to recover blown highlights..... and, shooting into the sun was not a good idea either).

So.... temperature was set at 38 degrees throughout....
Prewash in water for 5 minutes, first developer for 6 1/4 minutes, wash for 2 1/2 minutes, colour developer for 6 minutes, wash for 2 1/2 minutes, fixer for 6 minutes, wash for 4 minutes, and stabiliser for 1 minute(agitations as per E6 developing)
Again I ended up with a positive green negative, however, the green didn't seem to affect the images, as much as the first test.
The images taken in bright sunlight ... the highlights are pink... and seem to produce some nice colours when colour corrected.
The images taken in the shade, when colour corrected come out blue, and don't seem to produce such vivd colours
There does appear to be an increase in grain.... however, for this purpose I'm not unduly worried.
As an experiment, I am pleased with the results.
Some images....
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I like the last one a lot, the pink is very cool
 
Lee, I like those, my favourite is the second one, that muted colour cross processing is very appealing.
 
Jao said:
Lee, I like those, my favourite is the second one, that muted colour cross processing is very appealing.
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Thanks Adrian.... now, I just need to work out what conditions best suit the cross process, as it doesn't seem to work as well for every image
 
if you wanted to be technical you could take a pic of a colour chart, then see what you get once deved and compare :-)
 
If you want to get some better results I would try pushing the film a couple of stops (with an increased dev time as well) as that will raise the contrast (negative film is naturally very low contrast) and it gave me good results when I tried that with a roll. The pink highlights with blue are what I got as well for some shots (with no colour correction, this was as they were projected), but I got entirely different results with others!

I'm still meaning to post up that pushed C41 in E6 image I mentioned, I only managed to find it last night (I have about 20 boxes of slides lying around!)
 
Thanks for that Samuel.... I'll try that as well.....
And yes, look forward to seeing your image when you have time.
 
Great experiment. Thanks for sharing this with us.... I really love looking at this kind of thing. I think I like the first one best of the bicycle, so you now have one vote for each photo. It's very stylised effect and probably wouldn't want to see too many like this, but think it works really well with the subject.

Lovely stuff
 
Steve said:
Great experiment. Thanks for sharing this with us.... I really love looking at this kind of thing. I think I like the first one best of the bicycle, so you now have one vote for each photo. It's very stylised effect and probably wouldn't want to see too many like this, but think it works really well with the subject.

Lovely stuff
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Steve, thank you for your comments....
I probably couldn't shoot with this process in mind all the time... however, being so new to developing, and keen to try everything.... and as experiments go, I am pleased with the overall results, it certainly suits some subjects....
 
s162216 said:
If you want to get some better results I would try pushing the film a couple of stops (with an increased dev time as well) as that will raise the contrast (negative film is naturally very low contrast) and it gave me good results when I tried that with a roll. The pink highlights with blue are what I got as well for some shots (with no colour correction, this was as they were projected), but I got entirely different results with others!
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Instead of pushing, could you not also overexpose by three or four stops to increase the contrast and then develop normally?
 
If your doing C-41 in E6 overexposure will decrease the contrast further, for increased contrast you want to underexpose and then compensate in the development stage (which is pushing - its a well known fact that pushing increases contrast). Its cross processing E6 films in C-41 where you want to overexpose as it helps reduces the massive contrast that you tend to get.

Read this information by Kodak: http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Support/Technical_Information/Processing_Information/push.htm (Its about ECN-2 motion picture films, but the same effects of pushing/pulling apply to all film types)
 
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