Epson Inkgate fiasco vs Canon

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So I'm sure a lot of you have heard about the recent debacle with epson printers and their horrific ink wastage. Petapixel and fstoppers have all the details if you don't already know.

This morning my Canon IPF-6400 ran out of ink on one of the cartridges and I immediately thought if the same waste holds true for this printer too.

The results are pretty clear I think.

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I've always run my printer ink cartridges, both Eoson & Canon, past the point at which it says they're low, past the point at which it says they're empty, until the point at which the absence of ink affects the print.
 
chris malcolm said:
I've always run my printer ink cartridges, both Eoson & Canon, past the point at which it says they're low, past the point at which it says they're empty, until the point at which the absence of ink affects the print.
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Apparently thats very dangerous for the ink heads as it will overheat and destroy them. Still shocked at how much ink Epson printers put down the drain, worst part is still no word of an apology from them.
 
narcotiks said:
Apparently thats [running the cartridges dry] very dangerous for the ink heads as it will overheat and destroy them. Still shocked at how much ink Epson printers put down the drain, worst part is still no word of an apology from them.
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"Apparently"? Evidence? Which part of the ink head? The part that Canon replace with every cartridge and Epson don't? Is that why Epson is so scared of letting its cartridges run dry? How long does it take to do this damage? Does it only happen in high speed print mode? Does it only apply to certain models? Is this all a story cooked up to encourage ink sales? Enquiring minds are suspicious...
 
I always leave cartridge changing to the last minute, if there is a risk of damage I haven't experienced it yet. Epson cartridges are a scandalous price, if they actually filled them it might make things a bit cheaper. Refilled cartridges are available with twice the ink, since packaging makes up a large part of the price there s an opportunity for Epson to improve there. Of course we all know that the ink is where the profit is but this kind of exploitation is depressing.I've tried other alternative refilled cartridges but never found one that matched the Epson, I suppose this may say something about Epson quality but it would be nice to find a cheaper equivalent.
 
I have a Epson L355 CIS no problem for me :)

Just refill using 100m bottles.

  • Suitable for everyday printing needs, this multifunction printer also has scanner and copier functions. It has an integrated, transparent high-capacity ink tank that lasts you a long time and eliminates the need for cartridges. This Epson printer can yield up to 4000 pages of black and 6500 pages in colour printouts. For enhanced connectivity, this printer is Wi-Fi enabled, featuring easy connectivity with other compatible devices, including smartphones, tablets, laptops and more.
 
@ChrisR its not to bad to be honest, the reason I got it is I have a 13 year old who prints like it's going out of fashion :) and costing a fortune, the photos that I print are pretty good and I have about 15 10x8 up on the stairwell wall, just need to make sure you select High standard, but I am looking at getting a sub dye printer :) for printing while onsite.
 
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There is a 6 ink L series Epson, the L800. I see that it is now listed with Wilkinson Cameras at a severely front end loaded price of £349. It uses the same ink as the L355 printer with 2 additional colours, I'm reasonably happy with my existing Epson 6 ink printer photo quality output for colour (but not mono), I hate the absurd price of the minuscule cartridge capacities. The L800 is available elsewhere from £189, but only from companies I've never heard off.
 
chris malcolm said:
"Apparently"? Evidence? Which part of the ink head? The part that Canon replace with every cartridge and Epson don't? Is that why Epson is so scared of letting its cartridges run dry? How long does it take to do this damage? Does it only happen in high speed print mode? Does it only apply to certain models? Is this all a story cooked up to encourage ink sales? Enquiring minds are suspicious...
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The only part of the chain that I replace on my Canon printers is the ink reservoir itself, the print head (including the bit that gets the ink boiling to fire the droplets at the paper) stays mounted in the printer. My first ink jet (and old HP thing) had the head built into the cartridges.
 
I print as part of my business and used Epson large format printers, ink wastage was a major cost factor, along with head / nozzle clogging, when the printer was ready for changing I decided to look around for an alternative, and settled on tj HP Z3200 44" printer which I have been running for 2 years now and can tell you that the HP uses around 65-70% less ink than the Epsom, and i have never had a nozzle / head problem with it, cartridges are run until it says they are empty at which point even if mid print you change it and it resumes from where it left off, it has a system to detect every drop of ink to make sure they are fired and not missing. The HP Z series is the best printer I have ever had and I've had a few, won't consider Epson ever again.
 
Nod said:
The only part of the chain that I replace on my Canon printers is the ink reservoir itself, the print head (including the bit that gets the ink boiling to fire the droplets at the paper) stays mounted in the printer. My first ink jet (and old HP thing) had the head built into the cartridges.
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You're right. My info out of date. Canon tried the integrated head a while back, but seem to have dropped it now.
 
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