EOS 5 did its mode switch thing

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Sad times. Went out a couple of days ago with my EOS 5, turned it on and it felt a bit odd. Couple of shots later I went to turn it off and the button wouldn't depress, then the dial made a weird noise and started turning fairly freely. No more mode selection :(

Its now stuck in full auto, which bugged me even more.

Time to move on to a 1N or 3, right?
 
There appear to be a few EOS5s around in dealers. The first 2 I found were £50 and £100 and would (presumably) have some sort of warranty.
 
To be completely fair, mines lasted me a good long while. Feels like letting go of a friend rather than a tool.
As much as I like the 5, I'm giving some serious thought to trying to convince the mrs to let me have a 3.
 
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In these rather uncertain times, I'd forget spending all that money on an EOS 3 for a while yet and perhaps try an EOS 30 instead? You should be able to find one in excellent to mint- condition for around the £60 mark if you shop around and bide your time. It will do 90% of what an EOS 3 will do, plus it's smaller, lighter and considerably quieter. With a 35 zone metering system derived from the EOS 1V, I genuinely believe the EOS 30/30V is one of the best 35mm film SLRs Canon ever made.

However, make sure you go for the EOS 30 with eye-controlled focus system, as the similar looking EOS 33 is without that feature, so aren't as desirable and (should) sell for less money (as they did when new), Look for the logo on the front below the EOS 30 lettering to be sure.

I've owned an EOS 3 from new, and have two EOS 30s and an EOS 30v so I speak from first hand experience here. In case you're wondering, the 30v is the updated model and is virtually the same as a 30 but with crackle finish black instead of smooth matt/satin paint on the metalwork, a backlight on the top LCD panel and brighter LED AF point confirmation square in the viewfinder, but you'll most likely have to pay £130+ for a good one, and that's if you can find one for sale, as they really were the last of the 35mm film cameras so there aren't very many around as most people were buying digital cameras by then. So the EOS 30 is much better value for money, and far more plentiful in terms of availability.

Don't get me wrong, the EOS 3 is a very nice camera that's packed with features, but it's quite noisy when firing the shutter and not particularly light or compact. Hence the reason I use my 30/30v far more often than my EOS 3. Put an EF 40mm f/2.8 STM pancake lens on an EOS 30 and you hardly know you're holding an SLR!

Both cameras pictured here are fitted with their respective, optional extra, power winder/battery packs, but should give you some comparative idea of size. Hope the above is useful and best of luck choosing your next camera. :)

 
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To be completely fair, mines lasted me a good long while. Feels like letting go of a friend rather than a tool.
As much as I like the 5, I'm giving some serious thought to trying to convince the mrs to let me have a 3.
Man ! come on get those trousers back :giggle:
 
As much as I like the 5, I'm giving some serious thought to trying to convince the mrs to let me have a 3.

Noooooo! Tell her after the event . . .
 
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In these rather uncertain times, I'd forget spending all that money on an EOS 3 for a while yet and perhaps try an EOS 30 instead? You should be able to find one in excellent to mint- condition for around the £60 mark if you shop around and bide your time. It will do 90% of what an EOS 3 will do, plus it's smaller, lighter and considerably quieter. With a 35 zone metering system derived from the EOS 1V, I genuinely believe the EOS 30/30V is one of the best 35mm film SLRs Canon ever made.

However, make sure you go for the EOS 30 with eye-controlled focus system, as the similar looking EOS 33 is without that feature, so aren't as desirable and (should) sell for less money (as they did when new), Look for the logo on the front below the EOS 30 lettering to be sure.

I've owned an EOS 3 from new, and have two EOS 30s and an EOS 30v so I speak from first hand experience here. In case you're wondering, the 30v is the updated model and is virtually the same as a 30 but with crackle finish black instead of smooth matt/satin paint on the metalwork, a backlight on the top LCD panel and brighter LED AF point confirmation square in the viewfinder, but you'll most likely have to pay £130+ for a good one, and that's if you can find one for sale, as they really were the last of the 35mm film cameras so there aren't very many around as most people were buying digital cameras by then. So the EOS 30 is much better value for money, and far more plentiful in terms of availability.

Don't get me wrong, the EOS 3 is a very nice camera that's packed with features, but it's quite noisy when firing the shutter and not particularly light or compact. Hence the reason I use my 30/30v far more often than my EOS 3. Put an EF 40mm f/2.8 STM pancake lens on an EOS 30 and you hardly know you're holding an SLR!

Both cameras pictured here are fitted with their respective, optional extra, power winder/battery packs, but should give you some comparative idea of size. Hope the above is useful and best of luck choosing your next camera. :)



Thats a fantastic bit of information, thank you for that. I had a quick look at the 30, but had trouble finding a direct comparison to the 3 that wasn't overly technical for my small mind.

I'll start having a look for a 30 I think. It certainly doesn't look as small as the 500 which I find just a bit too diddy for my tastes.
 
I'll start having a look for a 30 I think. It certainly doesn't look as small as the 500 which I find just a bit too diddy for my tastes.

I did start to type a reply similar to Mr B, but he got there first...

I have a 1v, a 30 and a 300v. I think they're all great cameras and all have their place. I picked up the 300v for something tiny to put the 50 1.8 & the 40 2.8 on and it's a great package but some might find it... diddy...

For me, the 1v is the one that goes out most unless there is a weight concern. Or if it has film in it that's not what I want. The 30 makes a great backup camera. I ditched the eye-AF though. Even with YouTube videos, and numerous attempts at calibration, I just couldn't get it to work as fast as normal AF, then recompose.
 
It is (allegedly) possible to fix them. I was lucky in that the dial on my 5 never failed on me.

Have you seen this page: https://www.fatofthelan.com/photography/how-to-fix-the-eos-5a2-command-dial/
or this one: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Canon+EOS+A2+Control+Dial+Replacement/5330
Just one thing to bear in mind if you do take one of these (or any Japanese) cameras apart - although the guides above mention using a 'Phillips' screwdriver, the screws are almost certainly JIS standard, which have a different profile. It's worth getting the proper drivers to avoid damaging the heads. 'Vessel' is a good screwdriver brand from Japan that makes compatible precision drivers like the JIS 0 and 00, which you can find on Amazon and elsewhere.
 
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Just one thing to bear in mind if you do take one of these (or any Japanese) cameras apart - although the guides above mention using a 'Phillips' screwdriver, the screws are almost certainly JIS standard, which have a different profile. It's worth getting the proper drivers to avoid damaging the heads. 'Vessel' is a good screwdriver brand from Japan that makes compatible precision drivers like the JIS 0 and 00, which you can find on Amazon and elsewhere.

Excellent point, I have one somewhere that I got when I had to cure the cough in my A1.
 
Thats a fantastic bit of information, thank you for that. I had a quick look at the 30, but had trouble finding a direct comparison to the 3 that wasn't overly technical for my small mind.

I'll start having a look for a 30 I think. It certainly doesn't look as small as the 500 which I find just a bit too diddy for my tastes.
I have large hands and cope fine with the EOS 30, it's dials and knobs rather than fiddly push buttons, so no problems there. I love the eye-control focus on mine, I don't wear glasses or have contact lenses though, which I suppose could confuse the eye tracking system (although it does have a dioptric adjustment dial for the viewfinder). I followed the instructions in the manual, first clearing the memory of any previous user's settings, and took my time to set it up. I found the trick was not to take my eye off the selected AF point even for a moment when calibrating it. After that, I just look at one of the 7 AF points and it selects it as if by magic when the shutter button is half pressed. I think it's a wonderful system if it works for you, and really wish Canon would bring it back.

However, if it doesn't suit your eye you can always turn it off and use the camera as you would a normal AF system, as nothing is compromised or slowed down by turning the eye-control feature off, the AF just functions normally, and it's quick too! So think of it as a welcome bonus if the ECF works for you, as even the EOS 1V doesn't have it as an option! The EOS 3 has a 45 point ECF system, but I find that's quite a bit more fiddly and sensitive to calibrate and set up, but once again, it's great if it works for you.
 
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I managed to get the eye control working on the 5 and I wear glasses so its not necessarily impossible, but I didn't find it any better than selecting a focus point or focus and recomposing.

Can I ask, does it have the same custom function that allows you to leave the leader out when rewinding?
 
Can I ask, does it have the same custom function that allows you to leave the leader out when rewinding?
Yes, it's one of 13 custom functions available; Custom function 2, which is 0 = leader in or 1 = leader out. (y)

I managed to get the eye control working on the 5 and I wear glasses so its not necessarily impossible, but I didn't find it any better than selecting a focus point or focus and recomposing.

You should be OK with the ECF on an EOS 30 then, as according to an old test review from Amateur Photographer that I have, the ECF is much improved from that of the 5 and 50.
 
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