Elinchrom fit Godox AD600

I was hoping there'd be an updated version of the 600 (there'd been talk of this for a while) so I could snag a few of the older ones cheaply but does this mean they're eventually going to dump the Bowens fit stuff in favour of Elinchrom?
 
simonbarker said:
I was hoping there'd be an updated version of the 600 (there'd been talk of this for a while) so I could snag a few of the older ones cheaply but does this mean they're eventually going to dump the Bowens fit stuff in favour of Elinchrom?
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This is not a replacement but an addition. It might suggest at least one area that the AD600 upgrade might feature (the redesigned reflector around the bulb) - no reason to dump Bowens which is the most popular mount there is.

Mike
 
That's interesting - if unexpected. Like Mike, I think there is zero chance of Godox dropping Bowens-fit, and I also don't think/hope that this is the Mk2 version of the AD600 I'm waiting for. That dished reflector around the flash tube effectively fixes the recesssed tube position of the Bowens version which blocks light, so with many softboxes this Eli-fit jobbie will be about half a stop brighter.

Great news for Elinchrom users, though I suspect Elinchrom themselves will be tearing their hair out. Classic strategy - a product that both broadens your market and directly hurts the opposition at the same time :eek:

More info here https://www.diyphotography.net/godox-set-sights-elinchrom-new-flavour-ad600-strobe/ and some speculation about what the Mk2 AD600 might be here https://www.diyphotography.net/rumour-suggests-godox-will-announce-ad600-replacement-end-year/

Fix the flash tube position and double-up the modelling LEDs (as per the AD200 twin adapter) are my priorities, an improved handle would be nice, and a bump up to 800Ws would be really sweet and put more distance between it and a pair of twinned AD200s that are currently close on power and have some advantages. It would reestablish the AD800 as the true star of the Godox line, which I think it is, and is key to the professional sector. Edit: I would expect a price hike too :(
 
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HoppyUK said:
Fix the flash tube position and double-up the modelling LEDs (as per the AD200 twin adapter) are my priorities, an improved handle would be nice, and a bump up to 800Ws would be really sweet and put more distance between it and a pair of twinned AD200s that are currently close on power and have some advantages. It would reestablish the AD800 as the true star of the Godox line, which I think it is, and is key to the professional sector.
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The issue as I see it is the current bulb design of the AD600, which is overcome with the AD200 twin bracket. So that is one issue.

The redesigned bowl around the bulb on the AD600E would be great as a retrofit for the AD600B

Mike
 
mike weeks said:
The issue as I see it is the current bulb design of the AD600, which is overcome with the AD200 twin bracket. So that is one issue.

The redesigned bowl around the bulb on the AD600E would be great as a retrofit for the AD600B

Mike
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Yes :) And it would be so easy. I have a similar DIY fix for the AD600 Bowens problem. Take the foil dish from a Tescos lemon cheesecake, fashion it into a bowl-shape and cut a hole in the bottom - instant extra 0.4 stops, even a smidge more if you faff around. The problem is it's obviously not very robust so a better alternative is to use this cheap low-profile Bowens adapter, and fit it inside facing out. That works fine with the same increase in brightness, but only with certain softboxes https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01EYJOPPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
HoppyUK said:
Great news for Elinchrom users, though I suspect Elinchrom themselves will be tearing their hair out. Classic strategy - a product that both broadens your market and directly hurts the opposition at the same time :eek:
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Elinchrom recently opened their skyport technology to 3rd parties. Will be an even bigger bummer for them if an AD600 mk2 features both an Elinchrom mount and skyport.

Regards...
 
HoppyUK said:
That's interesting - if unexpected. Like Mike, I think there is zero chance of Godox dropping Bowens-fit, and I also don't think/hope that this is the Mk2 version of the AD600 I'm waiting for. That dished reflector around the flash tube effectively fixes the recesssed tube position of the Bowens version which blocks light, so with many softboxes this Eli-fit jobbie will be about half a stop brighter.

Great news for Elinchrom users, though I suspect Elinchrom themselves will be tearing their hair out. Classic strategy - a product that both broadens your market and directly hurts the opposition at the same time :eek:

More info here https://www.diyphotography.net/godox-set-sights-elinchrom-new-flavour-ad600-strobe/ and some speculation about what the Mk2 AD600 might be here https://www.diyphotography.net/rumour-suggests-godox-will-announce-ad600-replacement-end-year/

Fix the flash tube position and double-up the modelling LEDs (as per the AD200 twin adapter) are my priorities, an improved handle would be nice, and a bump up to 800Ws would be really sweet and put more distance between it and a pair of twinned AD200s that are currently close on power and have some advantages. It would reestablish the AD800 as the true star of the Godox line, which I think it is, and is key to the professional sector. Edit: I would expect a price hike too :(
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I used Elinchrom lights for the first time yesterday - BRX500's, and quite frankly, they could improve the usability of their lights considerably by adopting the old Bowens mount. :exit:
 
Scooter said:
I used Elinchrom lights for the first time yesterday - BRX500's, and quite frankly, they could improve the usability of their lights considerably by adopting the old Bowens mount. :exit:
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Not sure I agree ;) Elinchrom mount is good when the cut-outs in the modifier adapter are accurately cut for an easy yet positive lock. I've never had any trouble with Elinchrom branded stuff, but third party softboxes vary. Elinchrom is bigger too, and I've squeezed two speedlights through it before now.

But I've been using Bowens-fit a lot recently and TBH I think it's six of one and half dozen of the other. What always irritates me about Bowens is the spring loaded release catch, which means you always need one hand to hold that open to remove. Rather than just take out the spring which I guess could be DIY'd, ideally it needs needs an option to lock it open. Could be so easily done :thumbs:
 
HoppyUK said:
Not sure I agree ;) Elinchrom mount is good when the cut-outs in the modifier adapter are accurately cut for an easy yet positive lock. I've never had any trouble with Elinchrom branded stuff, but third party softboxes vary. Elinchrom is bigger too, and I've squeezed two speedlights through it before now.

But I've been using Bowens-fit a lot recently and TBH I think it's six of one and half dozen of the other. What always irritates me about Bowens is the spring loaded release catch, which means you always need one hand to hold that open to remove. Rather than just take out the spring which I guess could be DIY'd, ideally it needs needs an option to lock it open. Could be so easily done (y)
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I used to like the Elinchrom mount until the Bowen's S-fit was introduced...
I've always felt that the Elinchrom mount is great for small modifiers such as reflectors (which is pretty much all that was available at one time) but now that we all use large, bulky modifiers I find it awkward, uncertain and insecure. By contrast, the S-fit mount is simple, and that reassuring click means that it can't fall off:)
Mind you, compared to the Profoto mount it's great, and compared to the Balcar mount (adopted by Alien Bees) it's fantastic. At the time it was first introduced, pretty much all that was available was the original Bowens L mount, and the Courtenay, both of which were horrible - but other manufacturers have moved on.
 
mike weeks said:
I know people in the UK have been asking if the Elinchrom version of the Godox AD600 will be available well I saw today that it is https://shop.photomart.co.uk/godox-witstro-ad-600e-portable-ttl-flash-long-warranty.html?___SID=U not sure if any other Godox supplier in the UK has intention to stock
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I'd go for that, if I hadn't decided to opt for the AD600-Pro. If it's maximum brightness you're after, then (Eli mount aside) the design of that back reflector is pretty much identical to the DIY mod I made for the Bowens-mount version with a cardboard party dish and a bit of chrome tape, to ensure 100% of the light was collected and properly distributed. I got 0.5-0.6 stops extra that way, but while it worked well as a test rig it was hardly a properly workable solution and I was getting within a couple of tenths of that just by using a low-profile adapter ring.

Why couldn't Godox simply do something like that to the Bowens version and save everyone a lot of trouble?
 
mike weeks said:
and so easy to retrofit

Mike
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Yes, and could easily be a five-minutes DIYable component - effectively a 50% power increase for a tenner. It would mean Godox owning up to a schoolboy design blunder though ;)

If I had an AD600, I'd definitely have a go at making my crude cardboard dish mod into something more robust and permanent. Not difficult. It was actually attached to the softbox mount rather than the head itself, but either way really.
 
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